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Mackbox
May 8th, 2007, 11:58 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm a new member to the Podcast Alley forums, though I've been a listener for a long time now. I just listened to the latest episode of Soccergirl Incorporated in which she talks all about the medication abortion she's going through right now. I've never heard anyone talk so candidly / frankly about this issue at all and I've never heard it addressed in a podcast. I was so impressed by how brave and informative the show is, it taught me a lot and opened my eyes to the issue while at the same time making it feel personal and real to me. I think it's an incredibly important and cutting edge use of the medium and I wanted to let everyone know about it. I know she has been the recipient of her fair share of heckling and hate and so for her of all people to be making this public is especially impressive. I hope some of you take the time to listen to the show and think about this critical issue, especially in light of the current (US) administrations attempts to make abortion illegal. I don't know if any of you are involved in news media, but this seems like a particularly newsworthy item.

Here's a link to Soccergirl's abortion cast:
http://tinyurl.com/yslrtz

and to her website:
http://www.soccergirlincorporated.com

Hope you guys find this as interesting as I did.

Barefoot Radio.com
May 8th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Yes pretty interesting.

WyethDigital
May 8th, 2007, 04:42 PM
Nothing against Soccergirl and the tough choice she's had to make, or even of making the process into a podcast (it's educational, to be sure), but I honestly wonder where the "Safe Sex" or the "AnOunceOfPreventionIsWorthApoundOfCure-cast" was not too long ago?

Eric

mdattilo
May 8th, 2007, 05:43 PM
Well written, Eric.

WyethDigital
May 8th, 2007, 08:17 PM
Thanks, Matt. Thought it was point worth making.

I know accidents happen (there's a couple of those in my family that I exchange gifts with every year ;) ), but given Soocergirl's subject matter I would have expected her to be... well... uniquely aware of the precautions.

Eric

Barefoot Radio.com
May 9th, 2007, 06:38 AM
I'm sure SG is aware. Like you said, accidents happen. Heck, for all we know, a condom broke.

mdattilo
May 9th, 2007, 07:49 AM
After listening to the show, my first thought was why did she not explain what happened? I mean, if you're going to discuss your chemical abortion, wouldn't it be educational to discuss your method of birth control and why it didn't work?

Mackbox
May 9th, 2007, 09:31 AM
I'm sure she'd talk about that. She doesn't strike me as someone to be close-lipped about it. On the other hand, I think the point of the show was to talk about the abortion that was happening to her at that moment, not to detail the whole of reproductive health. Birth control is an important topic, of course, but obviously it failed or she wouldn't be in the situation she's in. She said she is careful and that this was an accident. I don't think the fact that she doesn't detail in exactly what way she was careful takes anything away from the message and information in the show. Prevention is critical and everything but what happens when it doesn't work is also critical. I don't think it's necessarily her job to share every single detail of her sexual life. She's already disclosing something that most people would never disclose. Give the girl a break. On the other hand, if you want to know, it wouldn't hurt to write her an email and ask if she'd talk about her method of birth control. Maybe it didn't occur to her to go into it with everything else she was trying to explain.

Yotto
May 9th, 2007, 12:21 PM
I don't think it's necessarily her job to share every single detail of her sexual life.

Actually, from what I remember of the couple shows I listened to about a year ago, I think that's *is* her job. :)
More seriously, though, I wouln't be surprised if, in a previous show, she detailed what happened. However, as this is likely the most controversial thing she's done, many MANY people will listen to ONLY this show, so it would have been nice if she'd thought about that and mentioned how she got in the situation.
However, considering the terrible stress she's probably going though, I personally am willing to cut her some slack on this one.

WyethDigital
May 9th, 2007, 05:10 PM
Let me preface this by saying this is directed at the OP, just so you know I'm not painting Soccergirl with a scarlet letter:

Soccergirl can do what ever she wants with her podcast. Hell, I firmly believe in her right to choose this course of action for herself and her body... I just happen to think that as topics go, the more relevant one to be cheering her on about would be pregnancy prevention and not failed attempts.

As pro-choice as I am, I feel an abortion is nothing to be celebrated, and certainly not something that should be branded (ala "abortion-cast"). That kind of thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Eric

Barefoot Radio.com
May 10th, 2007, 06:35 AM
As pro-choice as I am, I feel an abortion is nothing to be celebrated, and certainly not something that should be branded (ala "abortion-cast"). That kind of thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Well said and true. I believe in choice as well, but hate the idea of ever having to make any kind of choice like this. ->At the very least, I'm a proponent of the guy's 'right to know.'

Incidentally, the prevention is so much easier to obtain and deal with than a public lashing for abortion.

Lastly, if a woman HAS the kid, the guy has to pay for it, but if she doesn't, he has no legal right or say in it's termination. IRONIC????? I think so! Fair? Maybe not.

Barefoot Radio.com
May 10th, 2007, 06:37 AM
As pro-choice as I am, I feel an abortion is nothing to be celebrated, and certainly not something that should be branded (ala "abortion-cast"). That kind of thing just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.

Well said and true. I believe in choice as well, but hate the idea of ever having to make any kind of choice like this. ->At the very least, I'm a proponent of the guy's 'right to know.'

Incidentally, the prevention is so much easier to obtain and deal with than a public lashing for abortion.

Lastly, if a woman HAS the kid, the guy has to pay for it, but if she doesn't, he has no legal right or say in it's termination. IRONIC????? I think so! Fair? Maybe not.

I'm MOSTLY more concerned about her NOT having the right to an abortion than having it.

Barefoot Radio.com
May 10th, 2007, 06:38 AM
How many SPONSORS were there for the abortion cast????

I thought so!!!!!

Did soccergirl ever get a new computer or did she take the money I donated and pay for the $400.00 abortion??

Just curious, was that part of the computer fund???????????

Would that be right if those funds folks donated went to the abortion?

WyethDigital
May 10th, 2007, 07:24 AM
Hey Paul, was that a "computer fund" or a "laptop fund?" Because if it's a laptop fund, the abortion still might qualify ;)

All kidding aside, I guess how she wants to use donations is up to her, but yeah, if people think she's getting computer with the money they give to her, then it's probably a good idea to keep it earmarked for that instead of using it for something like this.

Incidentally, why does she need a computer fund? Doesn't PodShow pay her?


Eric

Mackbox
May 10th, 2007, 12:27 PM
The last thing she's doing is celebrating! Really, that's just not a fair assessment.

Yotto
May 10th, 2007, 01:05 PM
Nobody said she's celebrating.

"Celebrated" is a very multidefinitioned word. From the context, I believe Eric's usage was closer to "lauded" than it was "threw a party for."

WyethDigital
May 10th, 2007, 03:13 PM
Exactly Yotto. I was not expecting Soccergirl to have a party because of it, or to serve Hors d'oeuvres. I just feel that while you shouldn't be made to feel ashamed about it, it's not exactly something to feel proud about, either.

And it certainly isn't something that should be branded. If there's any problem I have with Soccergirl herself, it's calling it an AbortionCast. I ask again, if having an abortion is worthy of coining a new genre, then where was the SafeSexCast before all of this? And yes, it would be wholly appropriate (and responsible) for a self-proclaimed sex-kitten to discuss such things as safe sex.

Eric

Four-Oh
May 20th, 2007, 11:18 AM
I'll preface what I'm about to say with the admission that I've never listened to her podcast nor do I even know who she is, however, my first question was, "What is her podcast normally about?"

I certainly hope it's not about soccer, because if I were a listener, wanting to hear about soccer, and suddenly I'm hearing about her chemical abortion, I'd be pretty irate. Multiply that a few thousand times if my (in reality, non-existant) teenage daughter were listening to a podcast designed to interest teenage girls in sports. After that, I think I'd follow the logic Eric has followed.

Now, if this is just a woman's podcast about her own life experiences and she wants to launch into this, then I suppose that'd be fine. Her listeners would be interested in everything she thought and did, and this would fall neatly into that genre.

That said, I won't be tuning in to it anytime soon, but then again, I'm a Christian male opposed to abortion. No doubt she rails against my ilk anyway.

WyethDigital
May 20th, 2007, 04:06 PM
Well, I'm a Christian male, too, so I don't see what that has to do with anything, in all honesty. But yeah, she probably would see you (and maybe even I) as close minded.

Thank goodness Soccergirl's cast is not about soccer! That would be bad! It's about, well, Soccergirl. She calls it a bathcast. The idea is she's sitting in her bathtub naked as she records her audio podcast. I'm not sure why listening to a naked woman is supposed to be titalating, but she seems to think it is. She talks about her breasts, her sexuality, her boyfriend, her breasts, her bath, her breasts... She likes her breasts. A lot.

Eric

X Pat Radio
May 20th, 2007, 08:08 PM
Thank goodness Soccergirl's cast is not about soccer! That would be bad! It's about, well, Soccergirl. She calls it a bathcast. The idea is she's sitting in her bathtub naked...................
Eric


Have to watch out for short circuits...that could be painful.

Barefoot Radio.com
May 21st, 2007, 06:59 AM
Is a girl more or less hot after an abortion?

Does it depend on the circumstances?


Does it make a hottie porn star woman more hot? More despicable? More of a turn on? More of a turn OFF???

Curious.....

WyethDigital
May 21st, 2007, 04:50 PM
I guess I never thought of an abortion as a sexual thing. I can't seem to make myself think of it in those terms, either. To me, it is what it is.

Eric

Four-Oh
May 23rd, 2007, 11:57 PM
Oh! Well, if that's the case, and she talks about that kind of personal stuff regularly, I don't see why anyone has any heartburn about this.

Pats Podcast
May 27th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Hi everyone:I'm a new member to the Podcast Alley forums, though I've been a listener for a long time now. I just listened to the latest episode of Soccergirl Incorporated in which she talks all about the medication abortion she's going through right now.[snip...]

The permalink URL is here (http://soccergirlwp.podshow.com/?p=256).

JFYI... :D

Cheers :D

Pats Podcast
May 27th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Hi everyone:After listening to the show, my first thought was why did she not explain what happened? I mean, if you're going to discuss your chemical abortion, wouldn't it be educational to discuss your method of birth control and why it didn't work?Maybe she was on The Pill and forgot to take it the day she conceived?

Just a thought :D

Cheers :D

Asiadeep
Jun 7th, 2007, 03:10 PM
I'd like to firstly say that I am pro life and I thought that I'd get really upset from listening to the podcast. Although a part wants to set it straight and say that its murder and freedom has its limitations, I have to say thank you to soccergirl for giving us that great piece.

Its not so much views but rather factual reporting of the processes involved in medical abortions. She also highlights the pains and suffering for making the "mistake", its a great piece because it will educate youths to be more careful and consider the real options rather than hiding under the umbrella of abortion being an easy option.