!!! How to get $10 from your listeners !!!

[JeremyWest]

Hi!

I’m a podcaster, just like you! My podcast is on political issues and can be found at http://jeremywest.net. If you’re like me, you have a hard time finding time to do the podcast while still working to make a living.

I’ve found a way for my listeners to support the show by effectively giving me $10+ without actually parting with a dime! :shock:

Intrigued? Well, you can do the same thing! I guess the best way for me to explain it to you is to show you how I explain it to my listeners at http://freecard.jeremywest.net. Just remember, your free ticket in is the referral id “jeremywest”.

Cheers, and happy podcasting!
Jeremy, podcaster and associate of FreeCardMatrix.com

[ElNacho]

just tell us or ill be forced to call you a spammer. id be scared if i were u, hell yeah. plus the link opens up a blank page (tried TWICE, thas rite)

[JeremyWest]

Presented below, much less pretty than on my website (http://freecard.jeremywest.net) (btw, link works for me, anyone else besides ElNacho having trouble?), is my pitch to listeners...


Click here to sign up with the Free Card Matrix. (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest)

Why sign up? The Free Card Matrix (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest) supports the Jeremy West Show while you and your friends make money!!

Ok how? Sign up for the credit card of your choice and activate the card to get the ball rolling. Choose from all the big banks and get excellent rates, including 0% intro APR and 0% balance transfer options! Use our id "jeremywest" as your free pass in.

When you get friends/relatives/acquaintances/strangers to sign up for and activate a card through the Free Card Matrix (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest) using your referral id, You’ll get $10 per person, just like we do when you sign up. Imagine that!!

Yes, we benefit, too. The Jeremy West show receives $2 for your success, and on it goes 10 times over. After the initial 10 bucks, you get $2 for each level of sign up, with a $5 bonus @ level 5 (for more details, click "Referral Compensation Plan" at the top of the Free Card Matrix site (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest)).

But I don’t want a credit card. Hey, this is free. It costs nothing, nada, not a dime. You can make money without spending a single cent. If you are in the market for a credit card, you’ll probably be looking at Citibank, Chase, Orchard Bank, Virgin, Capital One, Cooperative, or U.S. Bank, right?. So why not make money for yourself at the same time! And remember, no one ever has to pay a thing!

This can’t be real. Oh yeah, it is. The Free Card Matrix (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest) is sponsored by the credit card companies who are saving a crap-load by not having to pay for expensive advertising. This is all covered under the FAQ link on the left side menu of the Free Card Matrix site (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest).

You and your referrals never have to pay a thing.

And it just gets better. In the future they’re going to pay commissions on purchases as well. You’ll make money every time someone linked to you buys something, the more expensive the better. Let’s hope everyone we know rushes out to buy a car on their new credit card. So click here, sign up and get rich! (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest)

"jeremywest" is an associate of FreeCardMatrix.com. (https://www.freecardmatrix.com/application.aspx?ref_id=jeremywest)

[ElNacho]

link works now

hm...0% intro APR? how 'bout AFTER the intro, mmmmm?

[JeremyWest]

hm...0% intro APR? how 'bout AFTER the intro, mmmmm?

Just depends on your credit rating and the card you choose. Lot's of top banks / cards are participating ... (Citibank, Chase, Orchard Bank, Virgin, Capital One, Cooperative, U.S. Bank, etc.)

[JeremyWest]

btw, if you'd like to hear us discuss the Free Card Matrix, we do so at the beginning of this episode (http://media.libsyn.com/media/nishijezza/jeremywest56.mp3) (opens mp3 file) found here (http://nishijezza.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=99586) (opens blogpage).

[WyethDigital]

It's a pyramid scheme. You can dress it up in a fancy name all you want (tiered marketing anyone?), but that's all it is. On the 'net no less. Who ever could have imagined?


Eric

[ElNacho]

pyramids are evil! only the circles are acceptable!

[WyethDigital]

pyramids are evil! only the circles are acceptable!
Yes, the circle, which is interpreted as the cup, or the Chalice, which in turn is a sign of the feminine! OMG! Judas was a cross-dresser and the Church doesn't want yo to know the incredible Truth! :shock:

Eric

[ElNacho]

:? the chalice is a triangle

[JeremyWest]

It's a pyramid scheme. You can dress it up in a fancy name all you want (tiered marketing anyone?), but that's all it is. On the 'net no less. Who ever could have imagined?

Sure is, and that's exactly what I call it on my show (http://media.libsyn.com/media/nishijezza/jeremywest56.mp3) (opens mp3 file).

Only difference between this one and all the rest is that it's FREE. So no one ever loses any money EVER. Not you, not your listeners. Plus, it's a hell of a lot easier to get other people to sign up when it's FREE.

[ElNacho]

'all' the rest? can you guarentee there is not a single other pyramid scheme out there that doesnt cost the person at the bottom a cent?

[JeremyWest]

'all' the rest? can you guarentee there is not a single other pyramid scheme out there that doesnt cost the person at the bottom a cent?

Point taken.

My point remains the same.

[WyethDigital]

:? the chalice is a triangle
Actually, that is the common representation, but it has also been described (independently of the Da Vinci Code) as a half circle with the top open. You close the top, and viola! You have the "circle of life (not the Disney song)."

Eric

[ElNacho]

why not? i like that song
(not really. it's for comedic effect.)

[WyethDigital]

'all' the rest? can you guarentee there is not a single other pyramid scheme out there that doesnt cost the person at the bottom a cent?

Point taken.

My point remains the same.
Your point is flawed. Credit ratings aren't just based on the money you've borrowed, they're also based on the amount of credit that has been extended to you (whether or not you've used it). You can lose out on a car loan (for instance) if you have too many credit cards, even if you have a small balance, because the bank will assume that you intend to make use of that credit.

Further, how do you know these credit card companies don't charge an annual fee (or won't choose to)? Credit cards don't sign long term loan agreements, which is why they can raise your interest rates at the drop of a hat.

Also, in many states in the US, pyramid schemes are illegal, whether they're free or not.

Eric

[WyethDigital]

why not? i like that song
(not really. it's for comedic effect.)
Hakuna matata? (or something?)

[ElNacho]

hm. u better remember to say 'Void where prohibted', there, jeremy, if it is illegal in some places

and wyeth, while hakuna mattata was in the same movie, it was not the same song. The Circle of Life was a song on its own.

[WyethDigital]

hm. u better remember to say 'Void where prohibted', there, jeremy, if it is illegal in some places

and wyeth, while hakuna mattata was in the same movie, it was not the same song. The Circle of Life was a song on its own.
I know! I just couldn't remember some of the chanting that was going on in the beginning of the movie (that opened "The Circle of Life")... so I went with the only phrase i could definitely remember (but not spell)!

Eric

[JeremyWest]

Wow! Wrong on all counts...

Your point is flawed. Credit ratings aren't just based on the money you've borrowed, they're also based on the amount of credit that has been extended to you (whether or not you've used it). You can lose out on a car loan (for instance) if you have too many credit cards, even if you have a small balance, because the bank will assume that you intend to make use of that credit.

I happen to be very in tune with how credit ratings work, as I've worked in credit and also keep very close tabs on my own credit rating, which is excellent. The fact of the matter is, a high percentage of your credit rating is based on available credit to debt ratio. Therefore, the higher your available credit (e.g. number of credit cards) and the lower your actual debt (e.g. 0 balances on cards) the better your credit rating.

Further, how do you know these credit card companies don't charge an annual fee (or won't choose to)? Credit cards don't sign long term loan agreements, which is why they can raise your interest rates at the drop of a hat.

I know they don't charge an annual fee because they state this in the terms and conditions upon signing up for the card. I can't promise they won't ever introduce one of course. If they do, I'd cancel it. I have several credit cards and I have NEVER had one with an annual fee. Why would you when there are so many options out there without annual fees?

Also, in many states in the US, pyramid schemes are illegal, whether they're free or not.

What?!?! IF there are states that have laws against "pyramid schemes", they would certainly define them as something this is not. I know, for example, that you cannot normally have a pyramid without an actual product involved (i.e. the proverbial chain letter--send the person at the top $1, then send this letter out to a thousand people with your name on the bottom). However, Amway and Mary Kay (along with thousands of other legitimate Network Marketing organizations) operate quite legally all over the United States.

Then of course this is truly a referral scheme anyway since there is no money involved...

[WyethDigital]

Wow! Wrong on all counts...

Not true.

I happen to be very in tune with how credit ratings work, as I've worked in credit and also keep very close tabs on my own credit rating, which is excellent. The fact of the matter is, a high percentage of your credit rating is based on available credit to debt ratio. Therefore, the higher your available credit (e.g. number of credit cards) and the lower your actual debt (e.g. 0 balances on cards) the better your credit rating.
Maybe to credit card companies, but go get a loan with 5 open credit cards. Whether or not you have a loan, they will tell you to close them, or take a higher interest rate... or lose the loan altogether.

Further, how do you know these credit card companies don't charge an annual fee (or won't choose to)? Credit cards don't sign long term loan agreements, which is why they can raise your interest rates at the drop of a hat.

I know they don't charge an annual fee because they state this in the terms and conditions upon signing up for the card. I can't promise they won't ever introduce one of course. If they do, I'd cancel it. I have several credit cards and I have NEVER had one with an annual fee. Why would you when there are so many options out there without annual fees?
As I just said, they can chage the rules at any time. That includes annual fees and interest rates.

Also, in many states in the US, pyramid schemes are illegal, whether they're free or not.

What?!?! IF there are states that have laws against "pyramid schemes", they would certainly define them as something this is not. I know, for example, that you cannot normally have a pyramid without an actual product involved (i.e. the proverbial chain letter--send the person at the top $1, then send this letter out to a thousand people with your name on the bottom). However, Amway and Mary Kay (along with thousands of other legitimate Network Marketing organizations) operate quite legally all over the United States.

Then of course this is truly a referral scheme anyway since there is no money involved...
Then I ask you where the money comes from. If no one is spending money, then where does it came from? How do you think credit card companies make their money on this? Money doesn't fall from heaven. No, this is a pyramid scam.

Eric

[ElNacho]

As I just said, they can chage the rules at any time. That includes annual fees and interest rates.

okay, but if they're not, they're not. just cuz they CAN doesnt change anything.

[JeremyWest]

Then I ask you where the money comes from. If no one is spending money, then where does it came from? How do you think credit card companies make their money on this? Money doesn't fall from heaven.

Of course money doesn't fall from heaven. Of course people WILL be spending money. People use credit cards all the time, and if they have this one, many people will use it, which will earn the credit card companies lots of money. That is why they pay for each acquisition (albeit a lot less than they pay on advertising per aquisition). The point is no one ever HAS to spend money, and if they do, it's money they would have spent anyway, just not through this card.

Trust me, Citibank, U.S. Bank, et. al (see above) would not be involved if this were a scam.

I'd love to argue back and forth with you (I'm a political podcaster, of course I love to argue!) but unfortunately I just don't have time. So this'll be my last counterpoint, and I'll let the readers click through the links and decide for themselves. Call the credit card companies to ask if this is legit. I did. I wouldn't be staking MY reputation on it otherwise.

[WyethDigital]

As I just said, they can chage the rules at any time. That includes annual fees and interest rates.

okay, but if they're not, they're not. just cuz they CAN doesnt change anything.
The point I'm trying to make is that credit cards are never free. Which means this scheme isn't "free."

The fact is, if anyone signs up with a credit card (or any line of credit) under the assumption that it's free is in for a rude awakening. Why do you think so many households in this country are in major debt? Credit card companies do not give you something for nothing.

I don't have anything against credit cards, but this scheme makes it sound like it's no big deal. A rotational line of credit is a big deal. Signing up for any credit is a "big deal." You deifinitely should not do it if your only reason is because you think you can make $10 off of it, because you're quite likely to lose much more than that!

Eric

[ElNacho]

And that's why Nick Starr owns no credit cards.

He's gay!

[WyethDigital]

...I know, for example, that you cannot normally have a pyramid without an actual product involved (i.e. the proverbial chain letter--send the person at the top $1, then send this letter out to a thousand people with your name on the bottom). However, Amway and Mary Kay (along with thousands of other legitimate Network Marketing organizations) operate quite legally all over the United States.

Then of course this is truly a referral scheme anyway since there is no money involved...
Not a "pyramid" scheme? No money involved? You have to open a credit a card account to get in the door. As per your quote below:

Ok how? Sign up for the credit card of your choice and activate the card to get the ball rolling. Choose from all the big banks and get excellent rates, including 0% intro APR and 0% balance transfer options! Use our id "jeremywest" as your free pass in.
Like I said, call it all the fancy names you want, but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Eric

[WyethDigital]

And that's why Nick Starr owns no credit cards.

He's gay!
I'm afraid that one's lost on me.... I know of Nick Starr, didn't know he was gay (never paid attention to that), but what does that have to do with credit cards?

Eric

[ElNacho]

...then stick it in the oven, honey, im hungry! (about the duck thing.)

[WyethDigital]

...then stick it in the oven, honey, im hungry!
Jeez! Can I pull the feathers off of it first?! Dang! :)

[ElNacho]

wtf yer not honey. get out of here.

[evilproducer]

Now as much as I hate to disagree with my brother :wink: I must point out that pyramid schemes are not illegal in and of themselves. Eric is correct, in that this is a pyramid scheme, and while it seems somewhat unsavory to me personally, it may not be an illegal scheme.

Anyway, back on point: The reason Amway was busted back in the early eighties is because you had a few top tier marketers with many people below them. The people on the lower tiers had to sell a certain amount of products to be able to earn enough for themselves and the people above them. The illegal part was that the lowest people on the tier had to buy more than they could sell, and were encouraged to use excess products for themselves just to break even. The courts decided this became illegal if you had to use something like fifty percent of the product you had to buy for yourself. It's been a while since I read the article and I can't seem to locate it, or I'd link to it. Obviously I'm just paraphrasing.

I just read information from their site. There's quite a lot of pie in the sky B.S. for the gullible. A few red flags are:

*They keep talking potential future growth helping your compensation (if wishes were horses, yada yada yada.)

*You must sign up for a card and activate it.

*If you don't get approved or decide to forgo the card somehow, it'll cost you $35.00, to be refunded later once certain qualifications are met.

*They don't issue checks until you have $50.00 worth of commisions built up or one year whichever comes first.

*You need to go five wide and ten levels deep before you get top commisions.

I'd be interested to know if JeremyWest has actually recieved any money yet. If so, how much?

The company is merely a card broker. I notice they don't say how much they get from the card you have to apply for to participate. I think a prospectus is in order. The only reason they probably aren't getting shut down, is because they charge no upfront fee or equire you to purchase tangible items.

Later,
Evil.

[JeremyWest]

*You must sign up for a card and activate it.
Whoopty doo. That's pretty easy. And FREE!

*If you don't get approved or decide to forgo the card somehow, it'll cost you $35.00, to be refunded later once certain qualifications are met.
Oh, thanks for bringing up that point for me. If you don't want a card, you don't even have to get one. Just refer four other people and you start getting paid. And no, you don't pay $35 up front, it's deducted from your first paycheck, so it's still FREE to get started! (See below)

Easy Steps: Start Recruiting Cardholders - Once you reach 4 'Verified Cardholders' in your 1st level, we will deduct USD $35.00 and bingo! You are now a 'Marketing Associate', eligible for commissions.

Note: If you receive a card through Free Card Matrix, you are not required to pay the USD $35.00 Marketing Associate fee. This is only for people who can not get a card.

*You need to go five wide and ten levels deep before you get top commisions.
Umm? Duh? Of course the more people you refer the more commissions you get. But you get $10 for every direct referral you make from the very beginning. Show me another FREE opportunity to pitch to your listeners where you get TEN BUCKS for every FREE signup.

I'd be interested to know if JeremyWest has actually recieved any money yet. If so, how much?
Nope, just started myself. But the guy who referred me just received his first check, for a whopping $162.

$162? What a piddly amount. Except, oh yeah, it's FREE.

I guess that's the main point you and your brother are missing:

It's FREE!

Don't expect to convince you, but anyone else reading this, let that settle in your mind.

When I was told about this, my reaction was, "Oh no, not another get rich quick scheme!" But after a week (or two? I forget) of it rolling around in my head, I finally decided it's worth having a credit card on my credit rating for the chance to get $10 for every listener signed up (Plus the bonus of even more if they refer others...)

So, just remember http://freecard.jeremywest.net when you come around.

[WyethDigital]

Now as much as I hate to disagree with my brother :wink: I must point out that pyramid schemes are not illegal in and of themselves. Eric is correct, in that this is a pyramid scheme, and while it seems somewhat unsavory to me personally, it may not be an illegal scheme.
Pyramid schemes for cash in many states (including Wisconsin) are illegal. It is either a misdemeanor or a civil matter, and not a federal crime. Naturally, a clever scoundrel will find loopholes.

$162... Umm, it's not free. You had to activate a card, get it stuck on your credit rating, and now have to live with whatever rules the credit card companies come up with for you. Oh yeah? Did I mention that a unsecured, rotating line of credit means that long term contracts don't apply (like they do with a car loan or a home mortage)?

Seriously people, the credit card industry is doing the consumers of the US no favors, and eroding the financial stability of the middle class. They've worked their hardest to undermine consumer protections against predatory lending, bankruptcy protection, and caps on unreasonable interest rates. But hey! As long as you get yer $10, right?

Eric

[Hittman]

Nope, just started myself. But the guy who referred me just received his first check, for a whopping $162.

That’s about what I get every other month from AdSense. And I don’t have to spam anyone, or sign anyone up, or pester anyone here or on other forums, or scream FREE FREE FREE FREE in all caps a half dozen times in each message. I just have a couple of links sitting there for anyone who is interested in them.

I would suggest anyone reading Mr. West’s posts to fine tune their BS meter so every time he screams FREE you automatically translate it to SCAM.

[docsnavely]

wow, is this dude serious?

if you want something that gets you stuff for free, try http://www.blingo.com (on my website, or suess' sig)

this is rediculous man! also, don't forget, if you apply for a card, it shows on your rating. any application for credit, na matter for what shows on your report. too many hits by lenders and regardless how many loans/cards/etc, you risk the chance of being turned down because you've got a very active application history.

if you want a card, stick with your credit union. i'm 24 and just got my first credit card (platinum) this year with a fixed APR of 5.2% and no annual fee.... because i stayed with my CU and kept a clean and productive credit history.

people who just sign up for credit on a whim are idiots.

[WyethDigital]

if you want a card, stick with your credit union. i'm 24 and just got my first credit card (platinum) this year with a fixed APR of 5.2% and no annual fee.... because i stayed with my CU and kept a clean and productive credit history.

people who just sign up for credit on a whim are idiots.
Well said. This is obviously being suggested by someone who cares about his gain over his audience's well-being. In the ancient words of In Living Color, "Homey don't play dat!"

Eric