Podcasters losing interest

[Steve Pinder]

Has anyone noticed that a lot of podcasters stopped putting up shows?
I noticed quite a few haven't posted shows in months. Are we losing them faster than we're gaining? What's the deal? Did they think it was going to be easy and not require work and dedication?

Steve
www.karatekast.com

[shastasage]

There is a thing in sales and marketing about human nature called "scratching the Itch"

People want things until they get them and when the itch is scratched....no need to keep scratching.

I have heard stats that 90% of books purchased dont get read and the same 90% that impulse buy never use items

So if we extrapolate to Podcasting we find the the desire to be a Podcaster gets fullfilled with a few shows

I think we shoulds find a way to weed them out for those of us still podcasting on a regular bAsis

Shasta

[etomorrow]

i think it's fairly obvious who keeps going. there are several i subscribe to that have slowed or even stopped, it's as simple as a click on an unsubscribe button.

[TheRandomShow]

Well, there are a TON of reasons a podcaster may quit. One I can think of is the trend. Podcasting became quite a trend for a while, and with all the free hosting sites, some people probably decided it would just be fun to have there own podcast, therefore being a part fo this hip cool new thing, but then either 1 of two things happend: 1. They got tired of all the work in making a show and cranking them out on whatever there time frame was. or 2. They didn't feel the work was worth it because they didn't become famous in the podcasting world.

Anyways, there are many ways it can happen, but whatever the reason, it is sad to see them go.

J.

[BillClintonPodshow]

I think as soon as we can make some money podcasting that people will start podcasting again. I saw the same trend in the blogosphere. There was a huge surge upwards, it died down then Adsense came up and bloggers were actually making money blogging and the blogosphere has exploded and is now rivalling the mainstream media in readership numbers. Money will save podcasting too.

[Will-Casel]

Yeah, I've definitely noticed a few shows "podfading", but for every one that fades 25 more pop up in its place.

It's happened since the beginning. I've been podcasting since April and have see people start a show and quit after five episodes. Some last two shows and some last 8 months. It varies widely.

I think its tougher on the couple-casts where there is no real focus, vision, topic. Just random commentary. Its hard to keep that up and stay fresh.

Will

[BillClintonPodshow]

etomorrow, I just visited your site to sample your podcast, but it's very hard to find the podcast page. To be honest I can't find it. Others probably have the same problem. please look into it. :)

[Steve Pinder]

God, for some reason has blessed me in this area, because my show has gotten big ( not without a lot of work ) and it's audience has reached 42 countries. We have just signed an exclusive contract with Chuck Norris' World Combat League. My producer has worked hard for the show too, so I would imagine that has a lot to do with it.

It's funny when I think back when we started. We were the only Martial arts podcast anywhere. Now there are almost 20.



Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[BillClintonPodshow]

Steve Pinder, you contract means you'll get money or what?

[etomorrow]

etomorrow, I just visited your site to sample your podcast, but it's very hard to find the podcast page. To be honest I can't find it. Others probably have the same problem. please look into it. :)

which link were you looking at?

www.mediocreshow.com has the podcast stuff there. my sig also has the info, if you clicked the clothing site, it might be a bit hard to find.

[Steve Pinder]

My contract with them is:

They treat me nice and I will treat them nice.

Sorry, wont go into details.


Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[etomorrow]

in fact, to make it even easier here is the link to our promo:

http://www.erictomorrow.com/podcasts/mediocre_promo_long.mp3

[BillClintonPodshow]

etomorrow, I just visited your site to sample your podcast, but it's very hard to find the podcast page. To be honest I can't find it. Others probably have the same problem. please look into it. :)

which link were you looking at?

www.mediocreshow.com has the podcast stuff there. my sig also has the info, if you clicked the clothing site, it might be a bit hard to find.

Thanks for the promo link. The podcast sounds interesting. :)

I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but when I click on your website link, I have to click again and then I see a sidebar on the left. Where do I go to listen to the podcasts, because it doesn't say "podcasts" anywhere? Thanks.

[BillClintonPodshow]

My contract with them is:

They treat me nice and I will treat them nice.

Sorry, wont go into details.


Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

:D @ Steve. Just trying to learn from others.

[etomorrow]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.

[jawbone]

We're still around, if that counts for anything. :)

[frankwit]

We're still around as well. We're one of those shows about nothing. We've actually found ourselves putting out more shows 11 months later than when we originally started. We don't find it to difficult to talk about nothing a couple of times a week. I keep coming back to the PCA forums, but I've vowed never to mention the site on our cast again (see our comment section for reasons why) I'll actually be glad to see the podcasting world weeded out a bit.

[ToasterBoy]

This is why we take a break in between Seasons. We do 13 episodes (or so) then take a month off. REALLy helps prevent burnout.

Grant

[kinkysex]

This is why we take a break in between Seasons. We do 13 episodes (or so) then take a month off. REALLy helps prevent burnout.

I've heard that kills subscriber numbers? Thoughts?

[ToasterBoy]

Well, even though we take a break from doing new shows, we put out something every week. like a FlashBack of a Fan Favorite episode, or Announcements or something, so we aren't completely gone for that time off, we just don't do our full shows. I think if you went too long though people would drop off, but we also sort of announce our Cliffhanger shows so folks know they're in for a break.

Grant

[comedy4cast]

I keep trying to adjust my schedule, so the episodes are unevenly spaced -- but no podfading here.

[etomorrow]

can i make a few requests?

we should really avoid the terms "podfading", "podosphere", "podsafe".

[womengrow]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.
Podtrac.com has a podcast player for your website. It's nice, but it has some bit rate issues. I (unintentionally) recorded shows in slightly varying bit rates and Podtrac will play about half of my episodes fine, in others I sound like the Grim Reaper...
I liked it, but I hoped it would be slightly more forgiving.

[ElNacho]

can i make a few requests?

we should really avoid the terms "podfading", "podosphere", "podsafe".

Podtrac.com has a podca...

hehe thats great

[etomorrow]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.
Podtrac.com has a podcast player for your website. It's nice, but it has some bit rate issues. I (unintentionally) recorded shows in slightly varying bit rates and Podtrac will play about half of my episodes fine, in others I sound like the Grim Reaper...
I liked it, but I hoped it would be slightly more forgiving.

thanks, but i'll be steering VERY clear of podtrac.

[tabulator32]

can i make a few requests?

we should really avoid the terms "podfading", "podosphere", "podsafe".

"Welcome to McPod! Would you like PodFries with that? Please pull up to the Podwindow!"

Ya know how a word loses all meaning after you say it a few hundred times in a row?

8)

[womengrow]

thanks, but i'll be steering VERY clear of podtrac.
I can appreciate your reservations.

Here are a few others, but unlike the Podtrac player I haven't tried them:
http://www.bigcontact.com/feedplayer.php?xmlurl=
http://www.mirpod.com/blog.php?id_blog=1&id_article=198&lang=en
http://www.wimpyplayer.com/products/mp3/podcast.html
http://www.feed2podcast.com/blog/?p=17

[Marilynfan]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.

I have been satisfied with my pupu player. I did go for the pro model because it looks alot cooler with my image on it instead of advertising. The button to it is on my "How to listen" page if you wanted to test it out.

[ferg]

This is why we take a break in between Seasons. We do 13 episodes (or so) then take a month off. REALLy helps prevent burnout.

Grant

I think this is one of the best ideas I've heard.
When we first started - I had in my mind to do it every week for 1 year before breaking...then it became 6 months, which we made...then, life kind of got in the way (we had lots of guests and travel around the holidays).

I really like the idea of scheduling out a certain number of shows with a break in between.

[Will-Casel]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.

I have been satisfied with my pupu player. I did go for the pro model because it looks alot cooler with my image on it instead of advertising. The button to it is on my "How to listen" page if you wanted to test it out.

Yeah, the PuPuPlayer (http://www.PuPuPlayer.com) works great for me two. You have a variety of buttons to choose from, but you can probably make your own button and link to their code.

Oh, by the way, Podtrac is just a custom version of the PuPu player.

[kinkysex]

is it me, or are there two very distinct threads here? I'm not bitchin' - I kind of like it. It appeals to my A.D.D.

on the subject: Podcasters losing interest

I posit this theory:

If your stats go up, you keep at it. I'll use 'subscriber' to mean 'any kind of download'.

For example: Day one: 7 subscribers, Day five: 10 subscribers, you are psyched!

If on day fifty, you still have 10 subscribers... well, you'll feel a little less enthusiasm and you'll take it less seriously, 'cause you know, "only 10 people are listening".

Whereas, if you're listener base continually grows, even a little, then you have the hope of a large base. This appeals to those of us doing it for the ego stroke AND those hoping to monetize.

[SFEley]

can i make a few requests?
we should really avoid the terms "podfading", "podosphere", "podsafe".
Too late. Those terms are part of the canon now.

Personally, I like them. They imply their own definitions, with very little explanation required.

"Monster Feet Variety Show? Yeah, I loved it. But they podfaded back in September." How many people wouldn't know what I meant?

[etomorrow]

can i make a few requests?
we should really avoid the terms "podfading", "podosphere", "podsafe".
Too late. Those terms are part of the canon now.

Personally, I like them. They imply their own definitions, with very little explanation required.

"Monster Feet Variety Show? Yeah, I loved it. But they podfaded back in September." How many people wouldn't know what I meant?

"Monster Feet Variety Show? Yeah, I loved it. But they quit back in September."

that's how i would say it. but hey, that's just me

[FrankJKimeJR]

We turned off all the web counters in December 2004, and it turned out to be the very best of moves. From time to time, Ill admit checking the bandwidth to be sure we dont push over the limit on a server, but in general .. where it goes ... nobody knows.

Hey its awesome, there are two sites which list us in a top so and so list for plays. Thats wonderful, and it does make a difference. Back in June I complained that nobody voted and they came and voted. Ah, if youre having a good time, the show appeals to you ... just keep chugging along dudes.

If we had not turned off the stats, I would have stopped blogging the audios in the podosphere back in July. Nobody was listening to the mp3 files and it was alot of work to generate them from the former dominant real-audio format.

[Slone]

We all want our art to convert at some level. However if you're not having fun your art won't thrive and your audience will starve.

Some podcasters I know are so focused on making money at podcasting, they become blind and already experience some burnout.

Hillman Curtis, a designer I take pretty serious presents a plan that I have found to build a solid foundation for any type of interactive media. When reading below, apply this to your Podcast…

1. Listen
2. Unite
3. Theme
4. Concept
5. Eat the Audience
6. Filter
7. Justify

For my Podcast.. Hell I’m just having a good time!
Anyway... Good conversation!
Cheers,
Slone

[tabulator32]

[b]
1. Listen
2. Unite
3. Theme
4. Concept
5. Eat the Audience
6. Filter
7. Justify

For my Podcast.. Hell I’m just having a good time!
Anyway... Good conversation!
Cheers,
Slone

I don't know how to ask this without sounding silly, but could you, sincerely, elaborate on some of the above, especially #5?

'Not quite sure what that means.

[roadrageradio]

Well, even though we take a break from doing new shows, we put out something every week. like a FlashBack of a Fan Favorite episode, or Announcements or something, so we aren't completely gone for that time off, we just don't do our full shows. I think if you went too long though people would drop off, but we also sort of announce our Cliffhanger shows so folks know there in for a break.

Grant

I've done something similar; it was by accident at first, but I think I'm going to build it into my schedule.

My podcast comes out once a week, and we just released number 39. In that period, I had three "family situations" which prevented me from producing a new show, so I did a "Best of Road Rage", pulling together bits from past shows.

Turns out, those "Best of" shows are some of the most popular I've done, and it gave me a chance to re-listen to some of my own older stuff, wince a little, and figure out how to do it better. Also, I'm able to pull together bits from different shows that have a weird connection, or that the passage of time has made more relevant today.

I think it gives me a needed breather, time to develop more material, and still hold my audience.

[docsnavely]

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/a/alive.jpg

Alaska is cold enough for this right?

huh?

anyone......

[monkey_one]

some of us keep doing it because its a sickness an unhealthy co-dependent relationship our lisntners or so called good for nothing two timing never emailing lisnters

that only reeks havok insecurity and lower self esteem into our already meanless and insignifagant loser lives

but also some of us are having a jollie time and are doing it for the gumdrops and butterflies and buterscotch giggle farts that are some where on the other side of the podcasting rainbow :)

[Steve Pinder]

You could be right monkey_one. It just might be a co-dependant relationship with the audience, But there are probably just as few who would admit to this as would admit to a co-dependency in a regular relationship.
Maybe the ones who aren't getting paid and still stick with it, will be the ones who thrive on the disfuntionality of the audience / host relationships.

Just my thoughts

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[monkey_one]

You could be right monkey_one. It just might be a co-dependant relationship with the audience, But there are probably just as few who would admit to this as would admit to a co-dependency in a regular relationship.
Maybe the ones who aren't getting paid and still stick with it, will be the ones who thrive on the disfuntionality of the audience / host relationships.

Just my thoughts

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com
asole vely wise sensie

[Cheri]

I am very new to podcasting (only two shows under my belt) and it is a lot more work than it originally seems but I am really loving it. Yes, there is a high from getting emails and the stroking that people like your show (I'm sure there will be so not so nice comments that will piss me off). So there is a definite dependency.

And yes, I have become addicted to the counters. Still haven't figured out what the number of subscribers really are. But I am curious, what are the numbers like for shows that have been established for a little while?

I thought 1,000 was decent but I was on the iTunes forum last night and a couple of people said they had 10,000 subscribers. It's really not about the numbers (except if you are looking to make money from it) But I was just curious.

[Steve Pinder]

I have an idea for you on how to find out how many subscribers you have.
After finishing your next show, only put it in you rss feed, and let it sit for one full day. Then, check the hits for that show. The only ones who will get it are, most likely, subscribers.

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[Steve Pinder]

I just realized, you use feed burner.
I'm not sure you can do that without an upgrade.

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[SFEley]

I have an idea for you on how to find out how many subscribers you have.
After finishing your next show, only put it in you rss feed, and let it sit for one full day. Then, check the hits for that show. The only ones who will get it are, most likely, subscribers.
You'd need to do it for more than one day. Some people only check once a week.

I think this approach would work, but I can't say the idea of keeping good content from people who might wander by and listen to it, even on a temporary basis, appeals to me. The information I'd gain just isn't as valuable as the listens.

[Steve Pinder]

I did this before. My producer used to take care of my show notes, and didn't put them up for a week.
I found out that the show was downloaded almost 1000 times, regardless.

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[Cheri]

It's more important to me that people get the information and enjoy the show. Maybe at a later date, I might try something. I just was wondering if there was a way for me to know just to monitor things.

As for the popularity of podcasting, I think you will start to see larger companies look into it as a viable way to reach their customers and potential customers. From a business perspective, I am going to begin offering it as a value added to my customers/advertisers just like I offer banners, newsletters, listings etc. It's a great information source.

Of course, the content will be quite different than my present podcast :wink:

Hey, no comment on subscriber numbers? Is that a taboo subject in podcasting or do people just not really know?

[etomorrow]

for the most part, no one will ever be honest about it. so i stopped caring what people's numbers were.

[Steve Pinder]

I'm happy with my numbers. I know a lot of shows have more, but we've worked hard at what we have. I know we will hit the 1000 subscriber mark someday, and it gets closer every month.


Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[kinkysex]

Hey, no comment on subscriber numbers? Is that a taboo subject in podcasting or do people just not really know?

We discussed this in another thread and I got the idea that no one really knew for sure.

It might be worth finding that thread, however, because I do remember several people had techniques for calculation that seemed reasonable.

They just varied a little from person to person.

My technique: I just pretend that everyone listens to my show. Helps my ego - and in the end, that's why I do a show to begin with. :lol:

[monkey_one]

for the most part, no one will ever be honest about it. so i stopped caring what people's numbers were.
according to feedburner ive got about 35 hows that fer f**n honesty :lol:

[Steve Pinder]

I need to subscribe to your show.

You'll have 36 in a few.

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[Cheri]

I appreciate your honesty! I was jsut getting confused by all the different numbers and such drastic differences of what I was hearing.

Hey it's not the size that is important, it's the quality! :wink:

[monkey_one]

I need to subscribe to your show.

You'll have 36 in a few.

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

Thanks Bro :wink:

[monkey_one]

I appreciate your honesty! I was jsut getting confused by all the different numbers and such drastic differences of what I was hearing.

Hey it's not the size that is important, it's the quality! :wink:

I agree but it is hard sometimes not to look at your numbers and let it affect you
if you have alot or a little .....no matter how much we try to admit it to ouselves and others
numbers matter

[mongrel]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.

Well, I just found out the WordPress 2.0 (http://wordpress.org/) (donationware) was just ported to the XOOPs (http://www.xoops.org) CMS (also opensource donationware), which is something I'd been eagerly awaiting. If you take care of your own domain, and can install something like WordPress, I can tell you that I fell in love with it in about 17 minutes. Using plugins, not ONLY can you drop either a full-blown audio player or mini player onto your page, but ALSO have WordPress generate your iTunes-compliant RSS code! I haven't gotten the latter to work yet, but have only had about two hours to play around with it.

Even if you are not in the mood to change your feed location, you could still use WordPress to generate the code and then just copy and paste the code into your own xml file.

I'm using the smaller of the two players at my NEW page location HERE (http://www.thedial.net/html/modules/wordpress/?style=w)

To answer the original question of this thread, I did a couple shows back in March and then got insanely busy at work, putting in 60 + hours a week. I just started again back in early December with a new focus-independent music from Boston/Mass. I don't know what my numbers are and I don't care yet. I listen to so much great new music that that is reason enough alone to keep it up .[/url]

[Cheri]

I agree but it is hard sometimes not to look at your numbers and let it affect you
if you have alot or a little .....no matter how much we try to admit it to ouselves and others
numbers matter[/quote]

You are 100% right...the numbers do matter. It definitely feels a lot better to have 1,000 subscribers than 10.

Problem is, if we give in to the numbers game at the advertising level, podcasters cannot compete with the other mediums that deliver hundreds of thousands of listeners/readers/viewers. It's got to be pushed in concept to the buyers and potential advertisers. It's a total PR push.

I hate numbers! I have been in media for many years and have seen the best products fold while crappy products stay alive because the crappy products had the money to buy the numbers.

[videohutch]

So - having just launched my new video podcast today - should I be depressed? And no "I won't be" is the answer, I'm not that kinda guy.

Any feedback welcome by the way - ("by the way" is a famous old Scottish phrase)

I must admit I launched another audio podcast a few months ago that I thought would be niche (and it was) so it was the first of its type, great listings on the iTunes travel category etc etc (low audience numbers of course),but it wasn't a subject truly close to my heart so I'm considering stopping it - that's probably what's at the core of most podcasters that lose interest, I would guess.

Having played around, and learned lessons, I am in my personal podcast world version 2 and have launched the podcast that truly I will enjoy doing. I'm sure many of the old timers will be in version 3 or 4 by now.

See my signature for clues folks. Podcast alley votes much appreciated. No locusts died in the making of my programme!

[theperfectsong]

Just downloaded your video, videohutch. Loved it!

[cinesnob]

I have over 2,100 listeners and the 'Alley' rates me at 4865 in the top 10,000. I'm sure that's why some podcasters become discouraged, but I'm not going to let the 'Alley' bring me down. I'll just keep uploading every week.

[videohutch]

Just downloaded your video, videohutch. Loved it!

Thanks for the feedback much appreciated! :D

[videohutch]

With regard to the comments about people being discouraged due to the ratings system on Podcast Alley not reflecting what they believe is their audience - I would have to agree. The "pimp for votes" type mechanism will never truly reflect your audience - I personally rarely vote here, but I have been listening to tons of podcasts for months - I think the only time I've actually voted was once for the Maccast, because I was on his website and he had a "vote for me" link.

It's a difficult nut to crack - download stats would be better, but the alley would have to implement some kind of feedburner type mechanism - even then that can be flawed.

[Slone]

[b]
1. Listen
2. Unite
3. Theme
4. Concept
5. Eat the Audience
6. Filter
7. Justify

For my Podcast.. Hell I’m just having a good time!
Anyway... Good conversation!
Cheers,
Slone

I don't know how to ask this without sounding silly, but could you, sincerely, elaborate on some of the above, especially #5?

'Not quite sure what that means.

Sorry a little late on this reply:
#5 "Eat the Audience"... Get to know and understand your audience, as well include audience in your process.

[Slone]

http://www.thezreview.co.uk/posters/posterimages/a/alive.jpg

Alaska is cold enough for this right?

huh?

anyone......

LOL ha ha very funny! :)

[mongrel]

we are working on finding a podcast player we like to put up on the site, anyone have a suggestion? we tried the one from this site for a while but didn't really like it. might give the pickle's player a go today.

There is also the audio player crafted by DullGrey Studios called "Tunage (http://www.dullgrey.com/index.asp?docID=tunage)" that I have been using for a while. It stands alone--no dependency on another program. One of it's skins looks like this:
http://www.thedial.net/audio/images/dullgrey.jpg
The only real maintenance is its "playlist" file, and that just involves a quick copy/past, change a line of code action.

[Steve Pinder]

none of my threads ever stay on subject,....lol

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[TALK RADIO SHOW]

Has anyone noticed that a lot of podcasters stopped putting up shows?
I noticed quite a few haven't posted shows in months. Are we losing them faster than we're gaining? What's the deal? Did they think it was going to be easy and not require work and dedication?

Something says, "I told ya so" just aint gonna' be enough.

I hope someone marked my words.

[gozar]

Well, I just found out the WordPress 2.0 (http://wordpress.org/) (donationware) was just ported to the XOOPs (http://www.xoops.org) CMS (also opensource donationware), which is something I'd been eagerly awaiting.

Just a clarification, but both of those are open source packages under the GNU General Public License. They do not cost anything to use and you are free to modify it.

[KidderKaper]

I think as soon as we can make some money podcasting that people will start podcasting again. I saw the same trend in the blogosphere. There was a huge surge upwards, it died down then Adsense came up and bloggers were actually making money blogging and the blogosphere has exploded and is now rivalling the mainstream media in readership numbers. Money will save podcasting too.

I completely agree. Don't get me wrong. I love producing my podcast, but there is no way I could put as much time into it as I do if it wasn't my primary source of income.

Kidder Kaper
Host of the Sex is Fun! Podcast Radioshow

[mongrel]

Well, I just found out the WordPress 2.0 (http://wordpress.org/) (donationware) was just ported to the XOOPs (http://www.xoops.org) CMS (also opensource donationware), which is something I'd been eagerly awaiting.

Just a clarification, but both of those are open source packages under the GNU General Public License. They do not cost anything to use and you are free to modify it.

Thanks, Gozar, for clarifying that! I should have said that myself. Check out my site (http://www.thedial.net/html), which uses XOOPs (http://www.xoops.org) to get an idea of some of the features available.

If anyone has been thinking about experimenting with a content management system and has a hosting package that includes (or has their own server with) php and MySQL, I can tell you that I really like it. My site is really no frills as far as design goes, but nearly any look is possible.

[WyethDigital]

Any feedback welcome by the way - ("by the way" is a famous old Scottish phrase)

Very good video. Bouncy and catchy! I would make a suggestion for next time though (expecially if it's similar in production). With all the movement to the camera, and the frequent scene changes, I would pull some bitrate out of your audio and put it into the video. The audio sounds like it has the "head room" to lose a little quality, and the video could really benefit from the boost.

I liked it very much! :)

Eric

[LoveHouseRadio]

What kills me are the shows that haven't updated in months and are still rated high on iTunes- lemming listeners I guess.

[Steve Pinder]

There's one in particular, that has gotten the worst reviews I've seen.
Theris even a review on another website on it that says it's bad, but yet it is listed high on the charts. Oh well,...lol,.....I think it's quite funny,...maybe people like crap.....look at FOX TV.


Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[SFEley]

There's one in particular, that has gotten the worst reviews I've seen.
Theris even a review on another website on it that says it's bad, but yet it is listed high on the charts. Oh well,...lol,.....I think it's quite funny,...maybe people like crap.....look at FOX TV.

Does this notorious podcast have a name?

[Steve Pinder]

Master Self Defense




Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com

[TALK RADIO SHOW]

Steve Pinder:

Are you anything like CHUCK NORRIS?

Chuck Norris doesn't sleep. He waits.

[Steve Pinder]

No, I'm not like Chuck, but a lot of people don't know what he's like, so they make up stories. He's a family man, and likes his privacy. He's really a nice guy.
Being under contract with him for the WCL, I've met him.

Steve Pinder
www.karatekast.com