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Dodger
Jan 16th, 2006, 08:04 AM
Hi,

Brand new to podcasting and have a question, please.

Our radio station has decided to make a couple of our local talk shows available as podcasts/mp3s.

I have already created the feeds in this format:

Show 1
Mon hour 1
Mon hour 2
Mon hour 3

Tue hour1

etc...

Show 2
Mon hour 1

etc...

That is a lot of feeds to submit but I'm trying. ;)

However - after submitting the first feed iTunes now gives an error , for each subsequent feed, that "... it appears that this feed has already been submitted..."

I have all of the necessary info and iTunes tags in the xml file - and I differenciate the shows (day/hour) in all of the tags so I don't understand why it thinks it's the same feed... :\

Am I doing this correctly or show I [somehow] incoprporate all of the show into a single feed?

Thanks
Dodge

tabulator32
Jan 16th, 2006, 08:24 AM
You should be making various "episodes" all into one feed. I wouldn't have another feed unless I had a different version of my show (i.e. audio and video)

Or, of course, if you had another completely different show, say, the morning crew had a show and the afternoon crew had a different show by another name but it was all hosted at the station's website.

Dodger
Jan 16th, 2006, 12:13 PM
Hi,

I'm afraid I don't understand how to incorporate all of the episodes into one feed... I had a heck of time figuring out "one per hour..." ;|

This is the page to our feeds - if you wouldn't mind taking a look at what I have done so far maybe you will get a better idea. I would love to know how to hove one feed per show - the "one" show would include all 3 hours?

The pod buttons are the current feeds.

http://www.ktbb.com/liveaudio/audio.html

Thanks
Dodge

ElNacho
Jan 16th, 2006, 12:31 PM
so there are new hour-long episodes each day for a few hours. for two people. so that'd b 30 weekly-show feeds. that's a ton...why not just put each person in one feed, and title each episode like Fri, Hour 1: Title

UncleThursday
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:00 PM
I have to agree with the others.

Just make 1 feed, and that feed will update the iTunes Music Store (and any other place where your feed goes) with the new updates as they are put up.

If you have a few different shows, then make different feeds for each show you wish to put up.

Example:

Morning show has its own feed.
Afternoon show has its own feed.
Evening show has its own feed.
Sports show (weekends, maybe) has its own feed.

Now, I have not yet checked out your link, so this might not be the format you are particularly looking for, but it is how I would do it (and how I currently do it for the personal podcast I do and my not-so-personal-but-don't-get-paid-for-it podcast).

Just remember, iTMS only checks the feeds once every 24 hours, and updates the new episodes then. However, you can often download the new episodes through the iTunes client as soon as the feed is published.

ElNacho
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:34 PM
i think u shud make a desiciion between per person feeds, fer day feeds, or per dif hours feeds. Just one of those, but not each, that'd get too complicated. Per Hour wouldn't make much sense, and im guessing the people are kinda different so per day wud b kinda weird, so id say go with per person feeds, that's 2 feeds with 15 shows a week, that's a lot of material...

Dodger
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:48 PM
Thanks for all the input. I agree as well that 1 feed per show (person) would be ideal, as in easier for all involved.

Let me get this straight tho ...

One of the hosts is Roger Gray.

So I would have the rogergrayshow feed. It would contain 15 shows in all. 3 hours per day. I would submit that to iTunes (and anywhere else) and subscribers would, in effect be subscribing to all of the shows and would get the new ones when available?

I'm not sure how to code one large feed in the xml file... I had a hard time with doing just the single shows. Is there some software out there that would help me combine all the xml into one feed?

Or could one of you please get me started?

Thanks so much for all the help! I truly appreciate it!

Dodge

ElNacho
Jan 16th, 2006, 01:53 PM
u cud make an opml dunno if that worx the same...

UncleThursday
Jan 16th, 2006, 02:26 PM
I use Feedburner (feedburner.com) to host my feed. But any RSS feed should be similar.

If you want to break the shows up into hour long chunks (advisable, actually, easier on people to download), you still can.

So, you do it this way:

Person 1, 3 MP3 files, each 1 hour long. Post each MP3 into the blog/XML/whatever place you are using that is linked to your RSS feed, just post them in 3 separate posts, right after another.

Same for person 2's show.

The subscriber's RSS aggregator will show them 3 new posts in the feed, and they can then download at will. The iTunes Music Store will see all 3 files when they do their once per 24 hours update, and post each file as a separate file.

I know doing it this way, I could put up multiple podcasts a day, if I so wished. Simply because each new cast would be a new post on my blog, and a new feed indicator on people's RSS feed. The reason being, my feed updates when my blog is updated, and I have it set so that when I embed the MP3 file, iTunes updates as well.

kinkysex
Jan 16th, 2006, 02:40 PM
I'm not sure how to code one large feed in the xml file... I had a hard time with doing just the single shows. Is there some software out there that would help me combine all the xml into one feed?

Or could one of you please get me started?

I would go on craigslist.com and see if a tech nerd in your area would help you for cheap or for free.

That would probably be easier than learning online.

Just a thought.

ElNacho
Jan 16th, 2006, 02:45 PM
actually...if u have all the feeds in the same folder, than make a feed
person1.xml or whatever and put:
well actually im not sure the exact tag or code but u cud do like
<include value="hour1person1day1.xml">
<include value="hour2person1day1.xml">
etc...thats not the rite code but if u find it than u cud jsut do that...u get me?

Dodger
Jan 16th, 2006, 04:10 PM
Thanks everyone! I think I will try to find a similar feed (multiple shows) and see if I can peek at the code. It may be as easy as cascading several <item></item> together... I'll try that and see.

Thanks again!

Dodge

tabulator32
Jan 16th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Thanks everyone! I think I will try to find a similar feed (multiple shows) and see if I can peek at the code. It may be as easy as cascading several <item></item> together... I'll try that and see.

Thanks again!

Dodge

A REAL easy way to get started and save all the hassle is to get an account at some place like audioblog.com which has easy set up and one-click publishing to blogs and RSS feeds. Check it out to get up and running and then you can learn about modifying your feed after you're up and running smoothly.