MP3 Hosting with Stats??

[Marilynfan]

OK. It looks like I finally have a big enough audience that I need to move my MP3 files from my current host. I am coming pretty close to my bandwidth limit this month so I think it is time.

I will continue to host my RSS feed and website at my current host the only thing I plan to use the new host for is the MP3s.

I am looking for something cheap (around the $5 mark).

This service MUST have stats for the individual files. I want to be able to see exactly how many downloads each show gets. I don't care so much about referrers, etc but it would be a bonus.

My files are approx 20-24 MB in size and I release 2 shows a month. I am thinking of only having the 10 newest episodes available so archiving of old shows isn't necessary. But unlimited bandwidth is.

Services that accept paypal are desirable.

Any suggestions?

[SFEley]

I am looking for something cheap (around the $5 mark).

This service MUST have stats for the individual files. I want to be able to see exactly how many downloads each show gets. I don't care so much about referrers, etc but it would be a bonus.
I believe LibSyn (http://www.libsyn.com) and Podlot (http://www.podlot.com) are the only two players that meet your requirements. In my experience Podlot is more stable -- that's why my own files are hosted with them -- but LibSyn is a bigger player and gives you much better stats.

[Marilynfan]

Thanks for the reply. What stats do you get with podlot? Will it give me downloads on each MP3?

[Patrick]

Libsyn hasn't had a glitch that I've noticed in over 3 months.

[SFEley]

Thanks for the reply. What stats do you get with podlot? Will it give me downloads on each MP3?
It comes with Webalizer pre-installed, or you could install your own stats package if you had the interest and proficiency. Yes, it'll give you hit counts and kilobytes transferred on each file, but the results are a bit more cryptic than what LibSyn offers. When it comes to stats, LibSyn really is better.

[SFEley]

Libsyn hasn't had a glitch that I've noticed in over 3 months.
Neither has Podlot. I'm glad to hear LibSyn's doing better, but I'm still not going back.

[cybercooler]

Are you going to have any kind of back issues? You only get 150 Megs with Podlot. Libsyn (http://libsyn.com/signup.php?ref=74b3efcb529e2483e031c93e94492bc6)in unlimited.

[Patrick]

Libsyn blows anything else out of the water. Their support is the best Ive ever encountered with a web service.

Dont even consider any alternative.

[SFEley]

Are you going to have any kind of back issues? You only get 150 Megs with Podlot. Libsyn in unlimited.
I've got that taken care of. Thanks for your concern. >8->

Really, I'd view either service as a "starter" solution anyway. My mid-term goal is to have the podcast hosted on a dedicated server with a 10 Mbps unmetered connection. It's within my budget right now; I'm putting it off since Podlot's been good to me so far, although with pushing 500 GB a month I'm beginning to worry about straining their generosity.

My long-term goal is to either work out a reasonable CDN solution or scale up to 100 Mbps before burst performance suffers. That's well outside my budget at the moment, but if growth warrants it, revenue should too.

[roadrageradio]

Thanks for the reply. What stats do you get with podlot? Will it give me downloads on each MP3?
It comes with Webalizer pre-installed, or you could install your own stats package if you had the interest and proficiency. Yes, it'll give you hit counts and kilobytes transferred on each file, but the results are a bit more cryptic than what LibSyn offers. When it comes to stats, LibSyn really is better.

I agree that libsyn's stats are pretty, and I love watching that wheel spin around, BUT

... every once in a while, they forget to update the stats for several hours. Like today, last update was at 9:16 ET and it's 16:00 now -- almost 7 hours of nothing.

[Patrick]

You might want to check with them. What you're saying actually isn't true (not that you're not having an issue, but that they "forget" to update stats).

For several months now, stats have been real time - they are compiled on the fly when you visit the stat page. I can refresh in 5 minutes and get my new stats.

If yours are locked up, you might want to email them because it's probably an isolated glitch or a more serious issue.

[Marilynfan]

No worries for back issues. I am only having 10 shows available at a time. Like I said as long as it has hit counts for each MP3 I am happy with that for stats.

Do either of these services offer paypal as a payment option? I've always got cash in there and would love to be able to spend it somewhere other than Ebay :)

[SFEley]

Do either of these services offer paypal as a payment option? I've always got cash in there and would love to be able to spend it somewhere other than Ebay :)
Yes, both. You can get the gritty details like this from the relevant Web sites.

[ElNacho]

i dunno what the process

sorry computer crashed, i have session saver and this came up, no frikin idea what i was saying

[SFEley]

i dunno what the process

sorry computer crashed, i have session saver and this came up, no frikin idea what i was saying
Did you know that you can delete your own posts after they're posted?

[tsidock]

I would like to weigh in on behalf of Libsyn. Since this is pretty new stuff for all of the players. Those that get in later have an initial advantage of learning for the trials of others. It's kinda like changing insurance companies. At any point in time, one will pull ahead and offer more services or a cheaper rate. As soon as you switch, your former carrier beats the new carriers offer.

I have had no trouble with Libsyn in the last 6 months, They are always up front with information about thier service, good or otherwise. For $5 or $10 bucks you get a lot. If you need mission critical service, no one can afford to give that for $10. The stats have been useful, current and accurate and I check all the time. Additionally they give you the log files as well!

Tom Sidock
looseendsshow.com

[commonercast]

Looks like Patrick and I have something in common :). That's the start of a truce ;)

[ElNacho]

Looks like Patrick and I have something in common :). That's the start of a truce ;)

NO! NO! TRUCE? MY GOD! STOPIT NOW!

siteground, peeps, unless you have an audience of over 12,000 folks, you shouldn't need libsyn's bandwith.

siteground has
12GB storage (more than enough), 500 GB bandwidth, and IS NEVER DOWN

i put out 50-70 MB shows weekly, and im good for more than a year with hosting, and fine for bandwidth. id need an audience of 12,000 people for each show to hit bandwidth max.

[Patrick]

This is why kids suck at math. They're too busy podcasting and making up numbers.

I have over 12000 listeners sometimes and use over 100GB in bandwidth a day. Your math is way off. Show size is a variable. Having shows archived and downloaded on a continual basis is a variable.

You don't have to post advice in every thread, especially when it's wrong advice.

[ElNacho]

you, sir, didnt readmy post. you may have read it, but you didn't read it. it's like hearing and hearing. no wait is taht listening...?

anyways

the point is you have an audience LARGER than 12,000. i said with 50-80 MB id need 12000 downloads to hit bandwith limit.

[Patrick]

Like I said, you're a kid whose math skills aren't any better than his common sense.

12000 * 80 MB = 960000 MB

You'd need 960 GB of transfer bandwidth. Your math couldn't be further off.

AND that's just for one episode. If I put out 8 episodes a month, and people continue to download shows from my back catalog as well, we are so far off the scope that doing the math to prove you wrong isn't worth it.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. Stop giving bad advice.

[crybabyemokids]

burn

[ElNacho]

dude...a 50-80 MB show isnt an 80 MB average.

[crybabyemokids]

even if you take 50mb as average..youre 100 gb off target, and 100 gb = 100,000MB = 100,000,000KB

nice.

[Patrick]

That's your comeback? THAT'S your argument to my calling out your math?

You look just as stupid if you do it with a 50MB file.

Stop arguing, really. You're making yourself look like a bigger idiot than you can imagine.

[Patrick]

What the hell, I have 2 minutes to kill.

50 MB * 12000 Downloads * 8 Shows = 4800 GB of Bandwidth Needed

So your 500 should be plenty, eh? 4800 = 500 now? Even with 4 shows a month you're at 2400 GB per month.

AND THAT STILL ASSUMES NO ONE FINDS YOUR SHOW IN THE MONTH AND GOES BACK TO DOWNLOAD YOUR OLD SHOWS.

The more you talk, the more you sound like a moron. Just stop.

[crybabyemokids]

Nacho's like the annoying little kid that always gets the seat in front of you in the game.
You feel like beating the **** out of him but everyone else thinks he's cute.

[alexkillby]

Ok, lets just recall where this started...

He tried to suggest a server that might be good for a podcaster, sure his math was off and very crude, but it's intent was to only illustrate the service.

Does this merit beating the sh*t out of him

I think everyone needs to remember the original intent of this message was to HELP other people. If you're going to come back at me with some crap like "he retaliated, and didn't make just the one post", then please read the first line of your response This is why kids suck at math, which is rather discriminatory, some of the greatest mathmaticians were very young.

[ElNacho]

What the hell, I have 2 minutes to kill.

50 MB * 12000 Downloads * 8 Shows = 4800 GB of Bandwidth Needed

So your 500 should be plenty, eh? 4800 = 500 now? Even with 4 shows a month you're at 2400 GB per month.

AND THAT STILL ASSUMES NO ONE FINDS YOUR SHOW IN THE MONTH AND GOES BACK TO DOWNLOAD YOUR OLD SHOWS.

The more you talk, the more you sound like a moron. Just stop.


wtf??? 8 shows? what the hell?

50 MB * 12,000 Downloads = 600 GB. i was off by a bit, 10,000 downloads is what it would be. the point is unless you have that large an audience u shudint need libsyn. chill dude im not frikin attacking you.

[Patrick]

So you only do 1 50MB show per month?

Still waiting for your fuzzy math to make sense.

My point way you didn't take into account show size, or show frequency, or multiple downloads, or downloads of archived episodes. You just spit out numbers that make no sense, like they are fact.

[ElNacho]

...10,000 downloads doesnt meean 10,000 downloads of every show that came out that month. 10,000 downloads is 10,000 downloads!

[Patrick]

...10,000 downloads doesnt meean 10,000 downloads of every show that came out that month. 10,000 downloads is 10,000 downloads!

Hmmmm....

id need an audience of 12,000 people for each show to hit bandwidth max.

Like I said, you just talk, then change stories with every post until it morphs into something correct EVENTUALLY after you've been corrected by everyone.

[ElNacho]

dude...
what the hell. im saying "siteground, go with it". i gave some stuff, and it was off, by a few words. GET OVER IT. ur not gonna have a frikin stroke if i dont edit all my posts to say u actually can have only TEN thousand, not TWELVE. plus you wouldn't wait untill you capped anyways, youd switched it over if u got to 75% and it didnt look like it was gonna slow down.
im saying, if you dont have a hugely popular podcast, u dont need libsyn, and its better to go with siteground. now chill out.

[Patrick]

No, that wasn't my point.

You said you could have 12,000 per show without going over the limit. 10,000 or 12,000 doesn't matter for our argument purposes, but if you have that many per show, times 4 or 5 shows per month, you are still way over.

One post you said per show, one post you said total monthly downloads. You're all over the map.

I'm done arguing with you. You are one stupid kid.

[crybabyemokids]

#1: who cares if you have a popular podcast or not, libsyn is cheap and its value for money. Sure they may have a larger storage but honestly, do you really need 5000 mb(or whatever) when you start podcasting?

#2: The point we're trying to make is, yes, as alex said, this is a place to HELP people, we just pointed out that you were giving out wrong information thats all and we corrected you. The reason I hate you is because you seriously post on every ****ing thread even if you dont know wtf is going on. Now in some cases, like monkey man, it can be hilarious and amusing as it 'lightens the environment'.. but if you suddenly start acting like a know-it-all arrogant piece of ****, people will get pissed.

Sure your buddys you've made in the podcasting community would boost your ego along the way but that doesn't mean you're better than me, or anyone else. If you have something to say, say it, and say it clearly. Contribute to the forum, don't just be the loser who wants the highest number of posts in the forum.

It's people like you who make Patrick hate kids like us :(

Jay

[SFEley]

He tried to suggest a server that might be good for a podcaster, sure his math was off and very crude, but it's intent was to only illustrate the service.
The irritation is that his advice was irrelevant to begin with. The initial question was very specific: hosting specifically for MP3 files, with unlimited bandwidth and download stats, at a $5/month price point.

As it happens, there are two services that meet those criteria exactly. Debating the merits of those services makes sense, but jumping in with "You didn't really want what you asked for, just use my favorite host and stop considering all the others" and giving bad logic to support it is just a waste of everybody's time. And it's not the first time he's done it.

There are a lot of reasons why Podcast Alley is a lousy place to go for advice nowadays. If we don't publicly correct the people who are willfully and repeatedly giving bad advice, then there's no hope for improvement.

Could it have been done more politely? Sure. On the other hand, with El Nacho, that's been tried before. And there's a word for trying the same thing multiple times and expecting different results...

[crybabyemokids]

optimism?

[Hollywood Adam]

Could it have been done more politely? Sure. On the other hand, with El Nacho, that's been tried before. And there's a word for trying the same thing multiple times and expecting different results...

The exact reason he has been banned from our forums. He came in and within 5 posts pissed off the entire community.

[Patrick]

Pissed off the entire community, or pissed off you?

Oooo...yeah, I said it? And? And?

[ElNacho]

im banned from ur forum? news to me...
god **** podcastalley its goin so frikin slow and errors all over the place


so a few replys...

patrick, ive been pretty constant in my last few posts. so dont say NUH SEE IN YOUR FIRST TWO YOU SAID THIS SO OBVIOUSLY YOU KEEP ON CHANGING BACK AND FORTH

and as i said, 10000 or 12000 or whatever downloads DOESNT MEAN DOWNLOADS PER SHOW! DOWNLOADS!! DEE OH DUBYA EN EL OADS!

cry baby emo ****er, you're just being a ***. ive given reasons for siteground being better than libsyn if u dont need the bandwidth. and it's a year, so you're not "just starting out" the whole time.
libsyn isn't unlimited hosting as well as bandwidth, it has a monthly cap. if you fill that up every month, with the $5/month plan (100MB a month), that's 12X100MB=1200MB per year. Siteground is TEN TIMES that for the same price.

and don't try and turn what alex said around on me u faggit, you havent dun **** except hide behind patrick and say "yeah stupid!" on top of whatever he says.

And Patrick wasn't "helpfully correcting my math", he used the maximum figures i gave and then multiplied it by 12, because he believes shows come out every 2 days.

i wish i was near you, id like to hurt you. ur so ****ing annoying its unbelievable. doesn't really look like anyone's "backing me up" here, xcept alex telling you 2 to shut up because im just offering some advice.

if there's anyone postwhoring here, it's you. what the hell is that post in the other thread?? A link to here and you QUOTING yourself saying some stupid **** like "i never no what's going on". i say my **** clear enough, but u obviously are much too busy a person to actually read what people right


SFEley, in case you haven't noticed, no one's been saying "SG doesn't have unlimited bandwidth so it doesn't matter", so don't try and say that ive been continually denying that each time.

the reason podcast alley is a lousy place is because there are *******ds like patrick who TRY and start fights and raise anger, just for the hell of it. And then there's crybaby emo, of course, who just likes to bitch.

[Patrick]

El Nacho, you little *** pounding ******. You are wrong. You're F*CKING WRONG. You are saying I said things I didn't, your arguments don't make sense, and you're f*cking LYING.

id need an audience of 12,000 people for each show to hit bandwidth max.

Ok...

and as i said, 10000 or 12000 or whatever downloads DOESNT MEAN DOWNLOADS PER SHOW

But you said...


id need an audience of 12,000 people for each show to hit bandwidth max.

So you've changed:

* 12,000 to 10,000
* 50-80 MB to 50 MB
* "per show" to "total monthly"

-------------------

I never multiplied anything by 12 because shows come out 2 days. I release 2 shows a week. That's the point. You didn't consider that people release shows on different schedules. Some people do weekly, some daily, some twice weekly, some monthly, some sporadically, yet you decided to lay down a precedent for what your host would allow, throwing all variables out the window.

I'll do the math for you one more time, because you're too F*UCKING slow to get it the first three times.

I'll use 10,000 listeners, a 50 MB show, and go with the average of 4 shows per month.

10,000 * 50 MB * 4 = 2000 GB of transfer.

Your host gives 500 GB of transfer.

2000 GB > 500 GB of transfer, hence it's nowhere near enough.

AND DON'T ****ING SAY YOU DIDN'T SAY PER SHOW, BECAUSE YOU SAID...

id need an audience of 12,000 people for each show to hit bandwidth max.

And that's not a typo, it's a f*ucked up fact that you just made up.

AND IT STILL DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT NEW LISTENERS WILL GO BACK AND DOWNLOAD ALL YOUR PAST SHOWS, SOME PEOPLE WILL DOWNLOAD SHOWS TWICE, ETC.

An adult can admit they f*cked up. And adult can admit they don't know what they are talking about. You post in every topic, you little piece of **** bastard, and you're a F*CKING IDIOT.

[ElNacho]

DOWNLOADS! DOWNLOADS! DOWNLOADS!

why do u keep putting it back on downloads per show??? i said that in my first post! there have been like 5 since than that all say DOWNLOADS! the second one's kinda iffy but that's besides the point.

and look:

50 MB * 12000 Downloads * 8 Shows = 4800 GB of Bandwidth Needed

Right i meant u sed 8. it still doesn't even matter because i've been saying DOWNLOADS, and that's NOT PER SHOW! LOOK RIGHT HERE! READ THIS! DOWNLOADS DOES NOT MEAN DOWNLOADS PER SHOW!

[Hollywood Adam]

i dunno what the process

sorry computer crashed, i have session saver and this came up, no frikin idea what i was saying

His most intelligent post of the thread.

[SFEley]

SFEley, in case you haven't noticed, no one's been saying "SG doesn't have unlimited bandwidth so it doesn't matter", so don't try and say that ive been continually denying that each time.
I have no idea what this means. I think it comes out to a quadruple negative. Whatever you're trying to say, it doesn't seem to relate to my message, however.


the reason podcast alley is a lousy place is because there are *******ds like patrick who TRY and start fights and raise anger, just for the hell of it. And then there's crybaby emo, of course, who just likes to bitch.
You're half right. The reason it's a lousy place is because most of the regulars now come here to argue with each other or spout nonsense at each other, rather than help people with good clear advice.

Please don't say you're any different. Hell, I'm not sure I'm any different. Witness the fact that I'm responding to this when there's no benefit to anyone's podcast.

[ElNacho]

...why dont you all diiiirect your browser to my post, and see patrick start attacking me, even though all i did was give a host option?

[Patrick]

Steve, I don't think you can deny my poo flinging here is minimal these days.

When I see bad advice given, and I try to correct it and get argued with and fought with nonsensical facts, I feel obligated to get the point across.

My intention was never to start a war.

[ElNacho]

wtf?
you immediatly started bashing me.
This is why kids suck at math. They're too busy podcasting and making up numbers.
blah blah blah
You don't have to post advice in every thread, especially when it's wrong advice.

that's not "trying to correct it"

[crybabyemokids]

Nacho, Do you REALLY need that much space? Libsyn clearly states in its different plans how much hosting you'd need if you just inputted the number of shows you do, and the size of each show. It systematically tells you how much you'd need and recommends the appropriate plan.

I'm not saying Sitegrounds is bad, I'm just saying if someone wants PODCAST HOSTING, it's ALWAYS better to do it with unmeterred bandwidth, just in case. And Libsyn archives your shows, which is even better, so, unlike Siteground, you dont have to worry about people downloading your old shows affecting your bandwidth.



i wish i was near you, id like to hurt you. ur so ****ing annoying its unbelievable.
HAHA..Okay! ITS ON! Podcast Expo 2006? Fo' Sho


if there's anyone postwhoring here, it's you. what the hell is that post in the other thread?? A link to here and you QUOTING yourself saying some stupid sh*t like "i never no what's going on". i say my **** clear enough, but u obviously are much too busy a person to actually read what people right

Ha! You're right, I AM a postwhore. Good observation there kid! I quoted myself not saying "i never no whats going on" I said I hate you because YOU post on ANY fuking thread saying ANY fuking thing that you want that doesn't make sense. YOU are the one that doesn't know what youre talking about, as clearly brought out by Patrick and your little 'miscalculation' which you yet refuse to admit.




the reason podcast alley is a lousy place is because there are *******ds like patrick who TRY and start fights and raise anger, just for the hell of it. And then there's crybaby emo, of course, who just likes to bitch.

Wrong. I think PCA is a great place for any podcaster to come to and seek advice. But if little fuks like you ruin it by giving WRONG advice, and I'm not only talking about this thread.. I agree, it would ruin the forums. If TRYING TO correct you is considered as 'starting fights' and 'bitching' then you clearly have issues you need to sort out.

I tried to be nice to you Nacho, but you didn't understand. That's why I'll support Patrick or anyone for that matter who'd want to pick at you. You deserve it.

Jay

[SFEley]

Steve, I don't think you can deny my poo flinging here is minimal these days.

Oh, sure, that's a fair statement. In fact I wasn't thinking of you at all when I said Podcast Alley had turned into a lousy place for advice. You and I haven't gotten along often, but that isn't one of the reasons. When it comes to communication I also respect that you speak actual English, know how to say what you mean, and when you state something as a point of fact, even if I think you're wrong, you clearly didn't pull it out of any of your own bodily cavities.

(How's that for warm fuzzies?)


When I see bad advice given, and I try to correct it and get argued with and fought with nonsensical facts, I feel obligated to get the point across.
Heh. Again, to be fair, I sometimes perceive that you aren't "flinging poo" so much as chasing your rhetorical opponent down, pinning him to the ground, and shoving the poo up his nose. When that happens, sometimes it's easy for the original point of argument to stop being the focus. But yeah, it is true, I'm thinking more of old arguments than recent ones, for the most part.

And yes, El Nacho, we all saw Patrick doing that to you, so you can stop whining about it. What you're missing is that in this particular case, we have no sympathy for you. And that's because of you, not Patrick.

[ElNacho]

I quoted myself not saying "i never no whats going on" I said I hate you because YOU post on ANY fuking thread saying ANY fuking thing that you want that doesn't make sense. YOU are the one that doesn't know what youre talking about, as clearly brought out by Patrick and your little 'miscalculation' which you yet refuse to admit.


the reason podcast alley is a lousy place is because there are *******ds like patrick who TRY and start fights and raise anger, just for the hell of it. And then there's crybaby emo, of course, who just likes to bitch.

Wrong. I think PCA is a great place for any podcaster to come to and seek advice. But if little fuks like you ruin it by giving WRONG advice, and I'm not only talking about this thread.. I agree, it would ruin the forums. If TRYING TO correct you is considered as 'starting fights' and 'bitching' then you clearly have issues you need to sort out.



uuggh....duuude....
im not saying "ANY fuking thing I want that doesn't make sense" in "ANY fuking thread". Tell me what you get this from...besides me offering al alternate host in an mp3 hosting with stats-titled thread, and me saying something that YOU didnt understand in reply to your statement that you "dont have to follow a law if you dont believe in it" in the thread that's talking about RIAA music at the moment. If i explain something to you, it doesn't still stand that it's something random that i posted that had nothing to do with anything else.

and you know what? The alley was fine before patrick started posting about, and then you decided to "jump on the bandwagon". u see this number of posts?
<--
or somewhere around there, maybe up or something...the point is, 99% of them (and that's a guestimate, dont go counting and then dividing so u can have something else to say "im miscalculation" about) are perfectly peaceful, the 1%? these past few posts in this thread and those other 2 or 3 or something.

and as i sed before, using max figures i give and then adding in some random **** isnt "correcting me".


where the **** are the god **** mods??

[crybabyemokids]

using max figures i give and then adding in some random sh*t isnt "correcting me".


And he tells me IM the one that doesn't read posts properly..

And as for all the other **** you just wrote, I'm not wasting time writing about it.

[ElNacho]

using max figures i give and then adding in some random sh*t isnt "correcting me".


And he tells me IM the one that doesn't read posts properly..

And as for all the other sh*t you just wrote, I'm not wasting time writing about it.

obviously you're not wasting time writing about the thing you quoted either.

You said something about him "trying to correct me" and i commented telling you what i thought about his "corrections"

[crybabyemokids]

im not even going to try to understand what you meant by that

[alexkillby]

I tried to be nice to you Nacho, but you didn't understand.

let's recap
1st post - burn
2nd post - even if you take 50mb as average..youre 100 gb off target, and 100 gb = 100,000MB = 100,000,000KB

nice.
3rd post - Nacho's like the annoying little kid that always gets the seat in front of you in the game.
You feel like beating the sh*t out of him but everyone else thinks he's cute.


Need I Continue?



You post in every topic

Are you criticizing him for posting too much? He is part of the topic and voices either an opinion or a response.

you little piece of sh*t bastard, and you're a F*CKING IDIOT.

Oh, thats mighty constructive, this is the best attempt i've seen at remaining civil. Lets just see who can throw around the most insults?


Lets not loose vision of this post, the plain fact of the matter is, that if you're not a podcasting superstar, SITEGROUNDS is a better deal for your money. Until you reach whichever listener point is required to max out your bandwidth, you are more flexible as to what type of content is distributed, and you have far more control over old content. Libsyn seems to totally lock down archived media.

Sure, Libsyn was specifically designed to handle podcasts, but you just as easily set up a content tracker to take the exact same statistics for any files hosted on your Sitegrounds space.

Please, lets just end this stupid arguement, cause unless anyone else has anything to say regarding this topic, then I think we've more than fulfilled the discussion that this topic requires. We've provided the options, its now up to the topic creator to weigh the differences and make a decision based on what has been said, save the language.[/i]

[crybabyemokids]

I wasnt talking about this post, I was talking about many posts in which he's been aggresive towards me. I avoided it so far but this was the last straw on the camels back.

Don't think you know what youre talking about before you get your facts straight.

And now we know MULTIPLE people hate him, and I'm sure more do. I have nothing against him posting and voicing his opinion, but if he thinks he can get away with anything just on the pretext of him being a 13 year old who can swear, that's pushing your luck too far.

I don't know why you need to stick up to him, let him fight his own battles.

[alexkillby]

I'm not going to even respond to this, in fear that I'll create presedence for further arguement.

I guess my attempt at closing this has finished, why must you continue to prolong this, podcasting is supposed to be a constructive community, sure, we have problems, but I don't see any problem with setting aside our differences. We all have flaws, every single one of you have annoying tendancies just as much as anyone else. Can we please, just leave it here, and continue on as normal, everything seemed perfectly fine before.

We've got it, there are a few options for the poster

1. Libsyn - podcast tailored stats and hosting management
2. Podlot
3. Sitegrounds - more flexible with old material

There you go, and I hope this helps with your question.

[crybabyemokids]

what the **** are you ? Mother Teresa? Noone cares anymore about the topic, we care about teaching El Nacho a lesson. Hopefully he would learn from this.

[alexkillby]

Ok, if you've tried to send him a message, I think you've made that quite clear by now, obviously you can't get a hint and just leave it be, you've gotta be pretty unintelligent if you think he hasn't heard a thing you've said.
So here we go again on another rampage of posts, you obviously didn't read a word from my last post, but just to re-inforce what i'm saying, lets take a quick look at the topic of this thread, and the name that newcomers and regulars will see when entering the topic.

MP3 Hosting with Stats??

do you see it?

MP3 Hosting with Stats??
MP3 Hosting with Stats??
MP3 Hosting with Stats??
MP3 Hosting with Stats??

[crybabyemokids]

wow can you be more ignorant.
I said that it's no longer about the topic, that question has been answered.

And I know he's 'heard' what we had to say, but has he 'learnt' is what is left to be seen.

[alexkillby]

Ok, lets go over the structure of a forum system.

1. Threads are created, and users can comment or discuss the original post in the available response posts, and are related to the original post
2. Personal communication occurs via PMs or private messages.

[crybabyemokids]

you can go over the structure of my balls for all i care

[SFEley]

We've got it, there are a few options for the poster

1. Libsyn - podcast tailored stats and hosting management
2. Podlot
3. Sitegrounds - more flexible with old material

Actually, no. By this new standard there are more than "a few" options. Siteground is a general Web host in a class of dozens just like it. If you're going to put Siteground on the list, you also need to consider Dreamhost, PowWeb, 1and1, GoDaddy, Yahoo! hosting, and many others -- all of which work to stay very competitive with each other on price, disk space, and bandwidth.

That's one of the reasons I said there were only two services that met the stated request. I could have pitched my Web host too, but if we all started doing that this thread would quickly degenerate into chaos, and we certainly don't --

Oh. That's right. It did.

[alexkillby]

haha, now this is just hilarious, lets read everything in your last post... shall we?

you can go over the structure of my balls for all i care

What a relevant post! My, oh my!

You even lost your place in trying to create an arguement, you just can't let it die can you, lets just keep this going and see how many posts you can get.

Do you understand what i'm trying to do?

[alexkillby]

We've got it, there are a few options for the poster

1. Libsyn - podcast tailored stats and hosting management
2. Podlot
3. Sitegrounds - more flexible with old material

Actually, no. By this new standard there are more than "a few" options. Siteground is a general Web host in a class of dozens just like it. If you're going to put Siteground on the list, you also need to consider Dreamhost, PowWeb, 1and1, GoDaddy, Yahoo! hosting, and many others -- all of which work to stay very competitive with each other on price, disk space, and bandwidth.

That's one of the reasons I said there were only two services that met the stated request. I could have pitched my Web host too, but if we all started doing that this thread would quickly degenerate into chaos, and we certainly don't --

Oh. That's right. It did.

I couldn't agree with you more, with reading the posts I've got Siteground drilled into my head, and unfortunately I expressed that when trying to finish this. You are most certainly correct in that there are most definately more than one host.
I believe the reason webhosts were brought up in the first place is to offer another idea or system to the poster. Yes, libsyn and podlot are custom tailored to podcasts, but whats happening is "suggestive selling" for lack of a better term. When asking questions, people often ask the wrong questions, or don't communicate their meaning most effectively.
All ElNacho was trying to do was add more options by anticipating what the poster might have wanted.

[SFEley]

Do you understand what i'm trying to do?
Sure. You're sticking electrodes into a dead frog to watch its legs twitch.

[ElNacho]

That's one of the reasons I said there were only two services that met the stated request. I could have pitched my Web host too, but if we all started doing that this thread would quickly degenerate into chaos, and we certainly don't --

Oh. That's right. It did.

actually, i started a thread way back when about the "best web host". there was no "chaos" (mostly because patrick and hollywood adam were elsewhere, as is where they should stay) simply calm debate which resulted in SG having the best to offer (in my opinion) for the cheapest price.

and that was BEFORE their two upgrades, its incredible now

[crybabyemokids]

I don't even WANT to get into a god**** arguement. It's just when things explained properly and clearly dont get through the first time, you need to resort to such methods.

See how my post pissed you off, that's exactly what Nacho's been doing. This is probably the only thread in which I've come off as aggressive towards anyone, well this and that other emo music thread which is another story for another day...

I Still don't know why you're posting under this thread. If it bothers you so much that we're drifting from the topic and doing things against the ethics of forums, why not find another forum?

I'd rather finish this thread here than take it to another thread or even private message, I think everyone has a right to know about this dumbass.

[alexkillby]

Do you understand what i'm trying to do?
Sure. You're sticking electrodes into a dead frog to watch its legs twitch.

I think you're completely misunderstanding me, what I'm attempting to do is keep this how it was supposed to be, it's clearly gone way out of proportion, and I am just trying to do some damage control, with the absence of moderators.
However, it is in the nerve of a few people to continue argueing pointlessly about an increasingly off-topic subject. See we're not even argueing over him anymore, we're arguing over argueing, this is pointless, please just stop.

[kinkysex]

OK. It looks like I finally have a big enough audience that I need to move my MP3 files from my current host. I am coming pretty close to my bandwidth limit this month so I think it is time.

I will continue to host my RSS feed and website at my current host the only thing I plan to use the new host for is the MP3s.

I am looking for something cheap (around the $5 mark).

This service MUST have stats for the individual files. I want to be able to see exactly how many downloads each show gets. I don't care so much about referrers, etc but it would be a bonus.

My files are approx 20-24 MB in size and I release 2 shows a month. I am thinking of only having the 10 newest episodes available so archiving of old shows isn't necessary. But unlimited bandwidth is.

Services that accept paypal are desirable.

Any suggestions?

At this point in the thread I'm going to recommend that you do not host your files anywhere. Instead just mail scripts to people you think might be interested. Have them read them and then mail them, etc, etc, et al..

I'm willing to bet the USPS forums don't look like this. ;)

Can anyone recommend a good chain letter paper? Bond vs. ink retention?

[crybabyemokids]

(mostly because patrick and hollywood adam were elsewhere, as is where they should stay)

That's the kind of talk that creates arguements, sirs.

If Nacho were to go by Alex' logic, he shouldn't have said that but oh well.

[Patrick]

I'm perfectly capable of discussion without chaos.

I don't post in threads where I don't have some sort of constructive advice or criticism.

You're pissed off becuase you're a bored kid who got caught for spewing too much bullshit and someone finally called you out on it.

[ElNacho]

dude...i was 1 digit and 1 word off....that doesn't warrant these past like 3 pages of assault

[Patrick]

I'm not assaulting you. You're a stubborn, spoiled know-it-all who doesn't know much in reality at all. You feel compelled to participate in every conversation because you think you know more than everyone else, or you think you can offer some stellar insight that no once else can, or more likely you're afraid something might actually happen without you.

It's ok to stay out of a conversation. It's even ok to be in one and make a mistake or an error, but to argue when you're wrong, you've been proven wrong, and everyone around you is telling you that you are wrong is just childish. But I guess that's just you - you're a child.

I'm just telling you that you act like an *****le. Everyone else may be afraid to, and that's fine, but I'm a super *****le. I've been an *****le since before you were born, when I was little piece of **** just like you. I'm just telling you, one *****le to another, that you're an idiot. You think you're smart, and funny, and right, I know - believe me - I know. But you're wrong.

[ElNacho]

and im sure you're the top of the heap because you can bash children and then have insecure people join along and feel like they're accepted

[ElNacho]

as alex put it:

Lets not loose vision of this post, the plain fact of the matter is, that if you're not a podcasting superstar, SITEGROUNDS is a better deal for your money. Until you reach whichever listener point is required to max out your bandwidth, you are more flexible as to what type of content is distributed, and you have far more control over old content.

[SFEley]

Lets not loose vision of this post, the plain fact of the matter is, that if you're not a podcasting superstar, SITEGROUNDS is a better deal for your money.
Wrong, El Nacho. You persist in simplifying this question into the ground.

The fact is that every podcaster is going to have different needs, different priorities, and a different budget. For some podcasters a general Web host (your favorite host or any other) is the best place for their files. For others, a budget unlimited solution like LibSyn is the best place. For others, it could be Archive.org (which is unlimited and free). And still others may need a dedicated server, or have space provided for them, or be fine with their Mac.com account, or any of a hundred other options.

Do you understand that people are different, El Nacho? Do you understand that just because you like the service you chose, that doesn't make it the Best Thing Under the Sun for everyone?

[ElNacho]

I didn't write that

[Patrick]

You see what I mean? He is arguing with his own quotes.

[ElNacho]

i quoted alex...
i didnt write that

[SFEley]

i quoted alex...
i didnt write that
Ah, you're right. My mistake. I should have clued into that by the existence of punctuation and capital letters, and the fact that there were only two spelling errors.

In that case, you're both wrong.

[Hollywood Adam]

But unlimited bandwidth is.



siteground has
12GB storage (more than enough), 500 GB bandwidth, and IS NEVER DOWN


For the last time you ****tard, 500 GB bandwidth != unlimited bandwidth. Therefore, you are wrong. Its not difficult to understand. We can go on and on about different webhosts and what she "might" need, but she clearly stated what she wanted.

[crybabyemokids]

HAHA. I can't stop laughing at how he totally just contradicted himself and his ****ed up ego refused to accept the truth.

[crybabyemokids]

haha just going through the thread again laughing my *** off, my favorite liner would have to be

and im sure you're the top of the heap because you can bash children and then have insecure people join along and feel like they're accepted

[SFEley]

haha just going through the thread again laughing my *** off
Sounds like you need a hobby. Have you considered podcasting?

[crybabyemokids]

psh
I know i dont have a life
:cry:

[cybercooler]

Nach,
One way you could make yourself less annoying would be to get that **** picture out of your signature. Please.

[kinkysex]

Nach,
One way you could make yourself less annoying would be to get that d*mn picture out of your signature. Please.

firefox + adblock = no signature pictures. ;)

[crybabyemokids]

any idea how to block flash adverts? The ones on myspace with the smiley faces going "SAY SOMETHING" are making me want to break random objects..

[kinkysex]

any idea how to block flash adverts? The ones on myspace with the smiley faces going "SAY SOMETHING" are making me want to break random objects..

firefox + flashblock = no problem.

Though I have to say - I'm on myspace and have no idea what you are talking about. ;)

[crybabyemokids]

ughh those banners that usually appear at the top of every page..
Its an advert for smileys..and 'audio' smileys at that, and every time your mouse hovers over it, it goes ' Say Something! ' in a really annoying voice.

thanks again for guiding me on how to do it
Jay

[kinkysex]

ughh those banners that usually appear at the top of every page..
Its an advert for smileys..and 'audio' smileys at that, and every time your mouse hovers over it, it goes ' Say Something! ' in a really annoying voice.

thanks again for guiding me on how to do it
Jay

adblock gets those.