Let's put down our swords for a moment.

[rookiee]

A message for everyone on both sides of the fence. (http://pedologues.libsyn.com/media/pedologues/psa_xmas05_01.mp3)

[spartacusroosevelt]

There is no way this can end badly.

[coreytronic]

Wow. How very touching. Now please go shove your heads in a preheated oven you miserable, horrid wastes of skin.

[kinkysex]

I thought this was a joke at first. It was hilarious! And then.... it got weird. 3 showers later.... ugh!

[tabulator32]

I thought it was hilarious.

All the connotations in those phrases like "we're all vulnerable in the end" just had me laughing my a$$ off.

[jimk]

Yeah, when actual pedophiles go on about f^(#ing kids, it's high comedy.

[ElNacho]

after readin all that i have no ****in idea what to expect when this download finishes...

[Seuss]

after readin all that i have no f*ck idea what to expect when this download finishes...

Expect a sick twisted pervert whining about no one liking him... just a guess mind you as I wouldn't download one of his files for anything.

[jawbone]

A Response (http://libsyn.com/media/jawbone/parodylogue.mp3)

[yaz]

cork it, kid toucher...

now you've ruined the holidays by talking about...fukkin homo...

[docsnavely]

No explanation needed. Happy Holidays, everyone. God bless.

God bless huh? can't wait to see what God will bless you with.

i tped some quotes out that i heard while listening to the kid toucher holiday message.... i noted the ones i thought to be ironic....



"stop clicking through your pics..."

"a fellow human being"

"small vulnerable spirit"

"mindless mass of flesh"

"a few of us have loved ones when we get there (from work)"

"we are all vulnerable inside"

"we all nead each other to love one another"

"stick together"

gotta love the alley

now off to listen to len's parody......

*edited to close tags

great reply len! that will never grow old!

[garybibb]

One can only hope, that if there is a god he blesses the pedo's with *** cancer. I would love to see the look on their faces when they get up from the toilet only to realize they left a nice chunk of bloody intestines floating about.

Also, if there is a so called god, I wish he would teach me how to use commas cause I have no fecking clue how to.

[PEZ]

A message for everyone on both sides of the fence. (http://pedologues.libsyn.com/media/pedologues/psa_xmas05_01.mp3)

i think you are missing the point. hitler, bin laden, manson, were all human, but just because we are human, doesn't mean i'm going to put down my sword. you need help man.

seems that the only person on the other side of the fence is you.

[yaz]

well, what fence is it that we're on the sides of...

[ElNacho]

dont u dare lock this topic u mods. ive realized u mostly do it when the pedo posts (that's when things go downhill...) people wanna get stuff in. no matter where the point of discussion will be within 20 posts...
anyways
im thinkin of downloadin it and the parody to get a good laugh at the parody, shud i?

and plus...we're all 99.99% or 99.9% not sure the same in DNA, but that doesn't make us any bit more same as eachother...but yeah. so should i download 'em both? someone else host it so he cant get the satis. to see the stats on that file for any reason or whatever

[mapleheavy]

i hate fences, i hate podcasting, i REALLY hate nacho, and i hate christmas.

stick that in your face and punch it.

[ElNacho]

ouch!
(note to self: do not take mapleheavy's commands literally)

[rookiee]

so should i download 'em both? someone else host it so he cant get the satis. to see the stats on that file for any reason or whatever

I fully endorse listening to his parody of me. In fact, I'm going to be playing it on my live show tomorrow night on SQR. It really brings home a point. Some people, no matter how well-intended they may be, will always be looked down upon in scorn because of blind hatred. And jawbone, as well-intended as /he/ might be, chooses to completely ignore everything I say. He's the very type of person I was attempting to speak to.

So yeah, go ahead, download it. Listen to it. In fact, it really has nothing at all to do about the file I made. It was made in response to my censorship file I did back in early October about my having been thrown off of PCA's listing. It's totally inane.

Ohwell, I still wish everyone the best wishes, no matter what you might say to me or about me. Life's too short and precious to feel any other way.

[ElNacho]

okayokayokay
lemme see...
ive been thinkin and

you claim that you make no acts toward anyone who you're sexually attracted to...you are normal in all but sexual mindset, and should be treated normally...
WHY THE HELL ARE YOU FLAUNTING IT? you're waving it around for everyone to see!
look everyone! check it out! i like little boys! come listen to me talk about it!
then flip around and defend urself all the time.
cmon! get it strait!
because the podcast and postin on forums and the like IS an outward act toward people saying, "I'm a pedophile!"
havin a pedophile podcast is bad, dude. you cant have a podcast where you defend those who DO rape little children (consent or no or whatever), even if you don't or you say you condone it or whatever you're still defending it...
and then want to be treated like a normal person

[rookiee]

you defend those who DO rape little children (consent or no or whatever)

Nooooo, I don't! Listen to me. I'll say it again. I do not defend any sex acts towards children. Period. Our biology intends there to be a natural cut-off point for the earliest we should participate in sex, and that is the onset of puberty. BUT... THESE days? It can't hardly ever happen that early. WHY? Because of how ignorant adults keep most kids about sexual matters. It's our society's hang-ups about sex that got us this way. By the time their kids' bodies hit puberty, their minds are still at such a low understanding level of issues that they usually don't have the coherant ability to consent. And what do you end up with? Stupid, assinine laws and beliefs wrought in fear. And people in jail for natural acts of consentual sex between two consenting partners; especially if they're homosexual or lesbian.

MY show deals with the ignorance, misunderstanding, hatred and witchhunting directed toward people attracted to minors of all ages; AND the false, puritanical ideals of sexuality in the US that got us into this mess in the first place.

... *sighs* ElNacho, please, I really don't want this thread ending up as another thread like the rest of them. If you're truly interested in understanding my viewpoints, normally I'd ask that you take this to a PM, but because of what I am and your age, that would be misconstrued as an act of licentiousness by everyone else, albeit unfounded, even though you'd be as protected there as anywhere else on this board. It's a f*cking shame, too, because you have a really level head about all this.

I'm sorry, but I really don't have any other recourse to this conversation in this thread but to just not bring it up again. If you wanna come onto SQR's chat room tomorrow night and listen in on the show, then you're welcome to. You could even skype in on my call-in line and debate it with me on the air. This thread was supposed to just be a christmas greeting, and I fully intend on keeping it as that. Let them say what they wanna say about me. They have a right to.

[ElNacho]

from what i've heard from what these other people have said, it sounds like in this christmas greeting ur tryin to defend urself against anyone like sayin anythin or somethin

[rookiee]

from what i've heard from what these other people have said, it sounds like in this christmas greeting ur tryin to defend urself against anyone like sayin anythin or somethin

Ah, so you haven't actually heard it, yet, I take it? I didn't figure you to be someone who judges a book by its cover.

Yeah, I'll admit, the file is a bit mushy and I used wording that opened myself up to lots of attacks, but I was speaking truthfully about issues, and I was feeling particularly melancholy 'cause it was the anniversary of John Lennon's death.

If you're afraid of downloading it, I can transcribe what I said in the file, if you'd like and you be the judge. It doesn't come out the same way as actually hearing it, though. It ain't no masterpiece by any means. It was originally meant as a PSA that Jeffery Gold has all the SQR DJs doing for the holidays. I decided to open it up to whoever wanted to listen to it.

[ElNacho]

book by cover? more like book by reviews on the back...which is kind of what you're supposed to do...
its more like i just havent gotten around to it yet. i will now tho.

[rookiee]

book by cover? more like book by reviews on the back...which is kind of what you're supposed to do...
its more like i just havent gotten around to it yet. i will now tho.

Eh, I'm a movie buff, but I've never liked Siskel and Ebert.. or is it Roper, now.. eh whatever.

Lemme know what you think about it. And be honest. Then again, you always are, so. :)

[ElNacho]

uh...dude you seriously needed to pay more attention during anatomy. There's nutin in a heart sides blood, muscle, and accumulating lard.

[rookiee]

uh...dude you seriously needed to pay more attention during anatomy. There's nutin in a heart sides blood, muscle, and accumulating lard.

*snickers* I'll keep that in mind. :)

[coreytronic]

Hey Nacho, buddy, calm down I think you've lost the point. The point is that this disgusting boytoucher needs to suck a tail pipe, or wrap his lips around a gun barrel the next time he even thinks about touching kids.
You can call it ignorance, hatred, or puritanical sexual medievalism at play, but the simple fact is that erotic feelings toward children are not acceptable in a sane society. You may feel a victim, that these urges are not a conscious choice but an innate part of yourself, a biological accident beyond your control. It doesn’t make them anymore palatable or tolerable to the rest of society. Let’s say that your latent sexual proclivities lied in the area of necrophilia or cannibalism, would a pod cast about those pastimes be any less revolting or morally justifiable? Would acting on them be any less criminal? Unless you are some sort of brilliant satirist jerking our collective chains, I suggest you seek intense psychiatric care and or institutionalization. Otherwise the risk is too strong and you should be put down like a werewolf before the next full moon.

[ElNacho]

there wolf! there castle!

[rookiee]

there wolf! there castle!

Why're you talking that way???

[ElNacho]

sigh...
you cant do that dude. it ended with my statement, u just picked up the peacefully dead carcass and screwed it up the a-hole. nice goin man.

[rookiee]

sigh...
you cant do that dude. it ended with my statement, u just picked up the peacefully dead carcass and screwed it up the a-hole. nice goin man.

Sorry! Sorry... I'm just a fan. :)

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/rookiee/youngfrankenstein2.jpg

Marty, where are you when we need you?

[yaz]

cork it, child molestor!!

[SPThom]

Our biology intends there to be a natural cut-off point for the earliest we should participate in sex, and that is the onset of puberty. BUT... THESE days? It can't hardly ever happen that early. WHY? Because of how ignorant adults keep most kids about sexual matters. It's our society's hang-ups about sex that got us this way. By the time their kids' bodies hit puberty, their minds are still at such a low understanding level (emphasis added) of issues that they usually don't have the coherant ability to consent.
Rookiee, you may have just uncovered the first successful argument I've heard for NOT reforming the educational system--and especially sex ed. Lord knows I'll vote against the next grant that comes our way, if it does a little bit to keep kids out of hands of folk the likes of you.

[docsnavely]

again, i say......

you gotta love the alley. i hope you feel welcome here boy toucher. it's the only place you got.

[yaz]

Lord knows I'll vote against the next grant that comes our way, if it does a little bit to keep kids out of hands of folk the likes of you.
i don't want to vote against a grant, i want to punch that dickhead's face in...

[Seuss]

Lord knows I'll vote against the next grant that comes our way, if it does a little bit to keep kids out of hands of folk the likes of you.
i don't want to vote against a grant, i want to punch that dickhead's face in...

Indeed... everyone knows you can only vote once. :D

[yaz]

i don't see it taking more than one punch, so it'll work out about the same...

[Non-Catholic]

I think the hypocrisy in this thread is truly hilarious! :lol:

If you people really have a problem with this lifestyle, contact the Vatican and voice your displeasure with it. I've had enough of the b.s. to sit and hear how some idiots claim to be disgusted with the MJ trial and yet when you bring up this issue with the rampant and sanctioned abuse by the Catholics over the centuries all you hear and see is silence and drooped heads!!!

I'm all for a Vatican City invasion to purify that religion! So many popes are burning in hell right now for allowing that depravity and doing not a ****ed thing about it!

But that's ok because every Catholic on this planet will answer for their non action.

It's time to burn down every local Catholic church on this planet. Hypocrisy needs to be destroyed!

[yaz]

I think the hypocrisy in this thread is truly hilarious! :lol:
your obsession with the catholic religion is hilarious (even your name, non-catholic), why are we contacting the vatican to deal with a kid toucher...doesn't matter who it is, pedophelia is wrong...i don't see anyone in here defending any religions or even mentioning michael jackson...where the hell are you coming from???

[Non-Catholic]

I think the hypocrisy in this thread is truly hilarious! :lol:
your obsession with the catholic religion is hilarious (even your name, non-catholic), why are we contacting the vatican to deal with a kid toucher...doesn't matter who it is, pedophelia is wrong...i don't see anyone in here defending any religions or even mentioning michael jackson...where the hell are you coming from???

Ha! I live in this plane of reality where only certain people are punished! If you are famous and/or have money, you can escape justice.

Why don't you ask Catholics you personally know if they are even offended of that behavior over the centuries. I have!!! And I've gotten looks that could kill! Don't make hypocrites mad or they'll find a way to persecute you for doing the right thing.

Like I said, things will change here pretty soon on a global scale.

[yaz]

well, to be honest, i could give a shite about what people think and the punishment thing is based on morality in my book, but i do understand what you mean about the rich and famous, thats why i don't concern myself with them unless they are a butt to a joke, as far as the priests go, they should goto jail...i hope you're right about the change, because its time that people stop blindly following religions that there is no proof to...

[Ass Cast]

Well, Well, Well. Looks like rookie is trying to get into El Nachos pants. Whats up rookie? listen to *** Cast #15 yet? Your the Featured podcast if the week you freak.

[yaz]

the only way that "*** cast" can be good is if its about donkeys or if its about jessica alba's ***...it just sounds wrong on so many levels...

[Ass Cast]

Dont talk about me that way or I WILL QUIT MY SHOW!
Maybe I'll make it about your moms ***.

[yaz]

you can make it about my mom's ***, but then you have two problems #1 you gotta deal with my dad and #2 i don't think many people will listen...

don't start slinging shite, b/c i wasn't at you, i don't think you want to go there...

just remember that you're posting about *** cast in a thread bashing a child molestor...now if you make the show about jessica alba's ***...that would be good...

[Ass Cast]

Im just F***ing around Yaz, dont be all sensitive. Our show Isn't about anyones ***, its about being Assh**ls. The point of my post isn't to fight with you (I like your show) it was to get rookie to stop cowering behind his GODD**N microphone, and defend himself on a show not run by him.
Where you at ROOKIE?!?!?!
*** Cast is waiting

[yaz]

that's what i figured and what i was gettin at...i still think a show aboiut jessica alba's *** is good idea tho...don't waste your time with rookiee either, it will jsut piss you off and will get you nowhere, believe me, i have taken that road also...maybe he got picked up for touching kids and thats why he isn't responding...if so, i will believe in santa claus, because ridding the world of scumbags is on my wishlist...

"one day a real rain will come and wash away all the filth" anyone anyone???

(i think i quoted right)

[Ass Cast]

I wouldn't get so pissed, but I have a kid of my. the thought of a freak like that being in love with my kid.....really pisses me off.

Where you at Rookie? you little Pu**y
SPINLESS

[yaz]

i don't have kids, but im in school to be a teacher and i have coached hockey at various levels, and just the thought of a kid i coached or even a student being molested by some pervert makes me sick, i would want to crush that person's skull and it wouldn't even be my kid, i don't plan on having any (even though you're not always in control of such matters) but if i feel that strongly about a child that isn't even mine, i can't imagine if it were my child...the connection can't be evaluated until you have one of your own, i have gathered that from the various people i have known that have had kids...oh well, when he shows his face, it will be broken...

[Kell]

I'm right there with ya ASSCAST. I have kids of my own too, and even if I didn't a pedaphile doing a show about what they do to children being okay is infuriating. I posted about how much it upset me and I was told that I should listen to podcasts before judging them. That's never going to happen. There are 2 idiots on this site that I'm not even bothering with anymore. The Pedaphile & the Racist - Rookie & Outer Limits. They infest this site with pervese views, and hate. It sickens & saddens me that Podcast alley protects them. Perhaps when it comes out in the news that some sicko was f*cking a kid while rookie told them "it's okay your normal" or some Nazi was stamping out jews while outer limits was chanting in their ear. The world will find out it was brought to you by podshow & Podcast alley.

[Lizard King]

I would love to see the word pedophile removed from the english language. It's Greek etomology means "lover of children", and somehow that seems inappropriate in the context of a person who lusts after children. As mature people, most of us can tell the difference between lust and love. The people who prey on children should just be identified as what they are: child rapists.
Feeling lust for a child, whether it is homo or heterosexual, is just plain wrong. The words pedophile and pedarast both come from Greek origins in a time when having a boy love slave was all the rage. I'm of the opinion that those days should be long behind us in a long list of other horrible atrocities.
So congrats, Podcast Alley and Podshow, on supporting child rapists. You might as well since you support white supremacy, bigotry, and racism.
I am in complete agreement with the previous few posts. If something ever happened to one of my children, I would never call the police. If someone hurts one of my family, I would have to handle it myself.

[kinkysex]

I have to say that I agree with podcast alley's decision NOT to ban these a-holes. I know, I'm just a big ol' Jeffersonian idealist.

While P.A. COULD ban them, I think the spirit of free speech is with the people, not the government.

With that said, I fully support ***-whippins for nazis and pedos.

Say it with me, "*** whippins for freedom!"

[yaz]

While P.A. COULD ban them, I think the spirit of free speech is with the people, not the government.
this site isn't government run...

[kinkysex]

While P.A. COULD ban them, I think the spirit of free speech is with the people, not the government.
this site isn't government run...

exactly. read it again. That's what I said. :wink:

[Lizard King]

While I support free speech, I can't go so far as to support pedophiles and their discussions on the best place to hunt children. I just can't.

Yaz is right, this is a privately run site. And unfortunately, they've chosen to allow those select few on this site to promote ideas of criminal perversions against children and hate against those with different skin colors or religions.

But I don't gotta like it.

[kinkysex]

Oh, and you should complain about it. I agree with that. If you don't like something on a privately run site, you should yell and scream and cry and picket.... you get the idea.

I'm just putting in my .02 cents.

I think that free speach is MUCH more important than my disgust and hatred of these people (the pedo & the naiz, specifically).

That way the powers that be hear my opinion as well. That's all.

I'm not saying you are wrong to complain to P.A. I just really like the concept of free speech, not just the law - the belief.

[Lizard King]

I hear you loud and clear. :)

[ElNacho]

now wait i just realized...
how come rookie's "christmas psa" was put there...in early october:?:

[kinkysex]

now wait i just realized...
how come rookie's "christmas psa" was put there...in early october:?:

Where are you getting that?

[ElNacho]

the first post in this thread :roll:...doesn't it say posted in oct 3rd or somethin?

[kinkysex]

the first post in this thread :roll:...doesn't it say posted in oct 3rd or somethin?

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:35 pm

that's what it says on my 'puter.

[yaz]

While P.A. COULD ban them, I think the spirit of free speech is with the people, not the government.
this site isn't government run...

exactly. read it again. That's what I said. :wink:
exactly, freedom of speech is with the people and since people run this site, the should exercise their freedom to take that ****ing *****le off...

[Lizard King]

AMEN BROTHA! PREACH IT!!

[yaz]

dude, im still annoyed that that pussy rookiee didn't have the balls to admit who he was...and he was near me...oh it pisses me off...

[Lizard King]

That's interesting in a way. If he really didn't feel like he was doing anything wrong, and that it was normal, why did he feel the need for anonymity?
Another interesting item, he's remained pretty silent for a while.

[Kell]

Freedom of speech yes, but stamp out a race? That's right up there with yelling fire in a crowded building.

I thought there were rules.

General Rules:
* While debating and discussion is fine, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks or purposeless inflammatory posts. Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users. Flaming or abusing users in any way will not be tolerated.
Anyone talking about their lust for children is an inflammatory post in my book A Pedaphile asking me to put down my sword and join hands with them and accept them as an equal is an inflammitory post.


* Members should remember this board is aimed at a general audience. Posting pornographic or generally offensive text, images, links, etc. is not allowed. This includes nudity and excessive profanity.
Sorry but I find comments, and the links about stamping out Jews, blacks, gays, and anyone else they choose to target pretty offensive - I guess they don't.

There is a time & place for discussions, I'm not saying they can't come on and post comments. But when the comment they post and the threads they post are not appropriate then something should be done. Freedom of speech yes - I'm sure there are forums that are more than happy to hear their views on killing specific races or fondling children. I just didn't think podcast alley was the place that would be that forum. I thought it woulf be some child molester porn site, or A KKK forum. Maybe I'm in the wrong place - I've come to talk about podcasting, and to chat with people, not hook up with children, or stamp out Jews.

I guess I just need to accept that this is accepted They have the freedom-
SAD

[yaz]

well, the whole basis of freedom of speech is that you can say anything you want as long as you don't infringe on the rights of others, isn't it??? at least that's what i always took it to mean...

so stamping out races and *** raping little boys both seem to infringe on someone's right, so why are these people allowed to even talk???

[Kell]

Because children & races beside the white race don't have rights.

so molest & Stamp them out



I'm so fed up with the coddling of these people.
Protect the innocent baby rapists & KKK members
They need protecting from us mean people.

[docsnavely]

Kell, your attempts to remind the mods abotu the rules of the forum, while meaningful, has fallen on deaf ears....

jack, myself, and a couple others cut and pasted them when the nazis and the pedos came in, and the admins here totally ignored it all.....

that's why this place is nothing but a zoo in my opinion. the needs of the podcasting community have not been listened to.

[Kell]

I remember that - It just blows my mind that I pull out a stick of common sense and start beating the horse.

They should put that on their header when you sign up. A place to chat with racists & baby molesters.

I need to get out of this place for a litlle bit. :cry:

[Ass Cast]

dude, im still annoyed that that pussy rookiee didn't have the balls to admit who he was...and he was near me...oh it pisses me off...

Ho only LIVES 50 Miles from me. Thats right ,rookie ,I live on SO. Cal too. When are you going to be on my show? Are you scared? Here Rookie, rookie, rookie.

[ElNacho]

just bring out a "consenting child" and he'll be there right away!

[Ass Cast]

just bring out a "consenting child" and he'll be there right away!

No Sh*t.

[rookiee]

I wouldn't get so pissed, but I have a kid of my (own). the thought of a freak like that being in love with my kid.....really pisses me off.

Where you at Rookie? you little Pu**y
SPIN(e)LESS

Hey guys, sorry I've been quiet. Took a break from this stuff... been doing the whole Christmas thing.

I just had to respond real quick for those who're asking me to.

I would love to see the word pedophile removed from the english language. It's Greek etomology means "lover of children", and somehow that seems inappropriate in the context of a person who lusts after children. As mature people, most of us can tell the difference between lust and love. The people who prey on children should just be identified as what they are: child rapists.

I wholeheartedly agree with most of what you said.

The problem(s) I have with your statements is that the modern connotation of the original etymology of "pedophile (http://www.daretospeak.net/paiderastia/pedo.html)" is greatly skewed due to cultural difference. This is what I speak of in Episode 1 when talking about relative truth vs. absolute truth.

lust = "Intense or unrestrained sexual craving."
child = "A person between birth and puberty."

I don't have a lust (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lust) for children (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/child). I have an attraction to boys commonly like 10 years old and up; generally the time when they're starting puberty. My attraction extends into adulthood. I'm not fixated on that minimum age. Also, while a portion of it is sexual, it is definately NOT unrestrained, and does NOT revolve around sex. Very common misperception.

attract = "To arouse or compel the interest, admiration, or attention of."

Lust (other than the heavy religious connotation) signifies a total void of propriety, morality, and concern or welfare for the individual you're attracted to. Whereas love, while still able to carry a sexual element, signifies a much more emotionally charged and positive social element. Example: If you're a (straight) man and you love a woman, there's usually a sexual element involved, right? Boobs and butts might've even been the first idea that came to your mind when you first saw her, but after that initial visual stimulation, you came to know her, and built a relationship on it. Is that lust? I don't think so, Tim.

Most of you already know this (as long as you don't believe in the whole redneck "women gotta be put in their place" bullsh*t.)

Apply the same **** principals to me.

And no, it ain't children. Use your common sense. I'm not sexually charged up about young children who have no idea what the f*ck life is about yet, nor would I even attempt anything with them. And no, I would not rape a child. That's just plain ignorance. But then again, I wouldn't expect anyone here to believe me anymore than a Nazi would believe a Jew wasn't a Godless heathen out to take over the world through Barbara Streisand... Ironic that that you guys complain about racists.

I think that free speach is MUCH more important than my disgust and hatred of these people (the pedo & the naiz, specifically).

You're very kind. ;)

If he really didn't feel like he was doing anything wrong, and that it was normal, why did he feel the need for anonymity?

Dude, are you kidding me? I received threats from people to take a baseball bat to my head. I've been told to blow a hole through my head with a gun. I have to protect myself. There are crackpots out there who take the law into their own hands in the name of morality and decency, ironically enough, because they think it's justified, all based on misrepresentation and false premise perpetrated by the media and conservative thought.

A place to chat with racists & baby molesters.

I can't describe how inaccurate, exagerated and clogged your portrayal is of me; and of this forum. Baby molesters? WTF? Try listening to my show rather than spouting out mindless jargon.

just bring out a "consenting child" and he'll be there right away!

I would've thought better from you... pity.

And I hope you're not making out with a girlfriend or anything. Apparently, you're not old enough to consent.

[monkey_one]

Dude you use semantics to skirt modern culture and the law that is very clear on how we define what a pedifile is compared to satatory rape
and if you engage in any type of sexual activity with the consent or not
with i would say a an infant till probbally 16 year old (which would include your preferd age range 10 till what i dont know) you are considerd a pedifile period the end there is no argument that is the law
I do believe in freedom of speech
I understand what you say but I do not agree with you or your views

[ElNacho]

:shock: :shock:

nice, clean, sensible logic from monkey man!

[Lizard King]

So, Rookie says:
"I don't have a lust for children. I have an attraction to boys commonly like 10 years old and up; generally the time when they're starting puberty. My attraction extends into adulthood. I'm not fixated on that minimum age. Also, while a portion of it is sexual, it is definately NOT unrestrained, and does NOT revolve around sex. Very common misperception."

And this is his defence!!!
Listen, a ten year old is still playing with TOYS! They are still watching cartoons. They are still in FIFTH F**KING GRADE! Even if they wholeheartedly consented, it is rape by law and rape by common, moral sense, due to the fact that they are children! This is the reason statutory rape laws exist.
If El Nacho has a girlfriend, and they choose to make out, it is completely different than if a fully mature adult uses their adult status and authority to seduce a child into "consenting".
The fact that you admit to being "attracted" to boys as young as ten is so alarming. I am outraged and disgusted by you. If I had you as a neighbor I would put up a perimeter defense. I feel sorry for the neighborhoods you DO have.

[rookiee]

Dude you use semantics to skirt modern culture and the law that is very clear on how we define what a pedifile is compared to satatory rape
and if you engage in any type of sexual activity with the consent or not
with i would say a an infant till probbally 16 year old (which would include your preferd age range 10 till what i dont know) you are considerd a pedifile period the end there is no argument that is the law
I do believe in freedom of speech
I understand what you say but I do not agree with you or your views

But
i do think that if those that while they do feel like they need to then they can go ahead because its not cool to make people fell
bad sexualy and they always make semantic rules when they think things like underagers are bad to have sex with teh pedifiles so there

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[rookiee]

So, Rookie says:
"I don't have a lust for children. I have an attraction to boys commonly like 10 years old and up; generally the time when they're starting puberty. My attraction extends into adulthood. I'm not fixated on that minimum age. Also, while a portion of it is sexual, it is definately NOT unrestrained, and does NOT revolve around sex. Very common misperception."

And this is his defence!!!

What I'm saying is: I believe that if by the time of puberty a kid doesn't understand enough about the facts of life to MAKE such informed decisions, the culture they live in has some major issues dealing with its own humanity. Don't say it's not possible... It's how most of history has been. And PLEASE don't say, "Oh, well, we've evolved since then".. that's just arrogance and denial of what makes us human.

You can't tell me this country doesn't have sex hang-ups. 12 or 13 should be long enough. I don't expect this to happen NOW. It's impossible. The underlying social structure isn't there.

Listen, a ten year old is still playing with TOYS!

Ever been to a sci-fi convention? There's 40 year olds who're still playing with toys, man. :) They're still allowed to have sex.

They are still watching cartoons.

Anime! It's called Anime, **** you!!!

They are still in FIFTH F**KING GRADE!

So what grade are you saying they should be capable of handling it?

Even if they wholeheartedly consented it is rape by law and rape by common, moral sense, due to the fact that they are children!

So what age do you think the age of consent should be? Remember, law only follows common perception as to what's right and wrong. If not, then the laws are seen unjust. Gay marriage and marajuana, for example. Laws being overturned left and right.

This is the reason statutory rape laws exist.

So, let me get this straight... Simply by my having an attraction, you assume I'm going to actually automatically force sex on some poor kid as early as 10, regardless of their mental capacity to handle it? I believe you do think that, because of your following statement:

If El Nacho has a girlfriend, and they choose to make out, it is completely different than if a fully mature adult uses their adult status and authority to seduce a child into "consenting".

You are instantly assuming ill-will on my part, AND you're instantly assuming that someone who's older than someone else would use their position of authority on the minor to get their way. That, by definition, no matter whether there's age difference or not, is immoral. Nothing should ever be forced or coerced on someone else. It's wrong for you to assume that simply because I have biological attraction, I'd commit such an atrocity. That's why I have my show, to debunk false notions such as yours.

Let's take ElNacho for a moment... (sorry, dude, you've just been inducted :)) He's 14. Let's say that he met up with some luscious babe like Pamela Anderson sitting on the beach and she was into younger guys his age, and they made out, would it be rape? Even though it were fully consentual and no position of authority was involved? No coercion? C'mon, be honest. Forget I'm an evil pedo for a second and play along.

I believe minors should be protected by the law, but NOT oppressed by the law in such cases where there is true honest consentual relations going on. I think they should make it where, yeah, the kid can do it, but if there's ANY wrong-doing involved on either side, the law can step in and protect the kid (or the adult, for that matter). That's practical.

Kids are being protected today, but for the wrong reasons, and in the wrong ways.

The only reason why people find this "disgusting" is because it was made to be so.

The fact that you admit to being "attracted" to boys as young as ten is so alarming. I am outraged and disgusted by you. If I had you as a neighbor I would put up a perimeter defense. I feel sorry for the neighborhoods you DO have.

Fear and paranoia based on what you've been told by others. Try listening to what I'm saying rather than fearing/hating me. Ok?

[Ass Cast]

When are you comming on my show? shot us an e-mail theres ways we can do it with anyone tracking you

[rookiee]

When are you comming on my show? shot us an e-mail theres ways we can do it with anyone tracking you

Freudian slip?

[Ass Cast]

you didnt answer my question. Stop avioding it and answer the god**** question rookie

[Kell]

A place to chat with racists & baby molesters.

I can't describe how inaccurate, exagerated and clogged your portrayal is of me; and of this forum. Baby molesters? WTF? Try listening to my show rather than spouting out mindless jargon.

No not mindless jargon, passion. You obviously don't have children because if you did the thought of them being watched by someone wanting to molest them should infuriate you. Wait look who I'm talking to it would probably arouse you I'm surprised you haven't had kids just so you can do them.
Don't tell me you wouldn't molest your own kids because the fact that you would steal the innocence from someone elses kids and not your own is a crock of crap too. Listen to your podcast! LISTEN TO YOUR PODCAST!
I would die before I ever let such a podcast play over my speakers or through my buds. You take children that shouldn't even be having sex yet, and if they do it should be with someone their own experience level. Not some adult male that has been around the block. Part of growing up is experimenting. Going from 0-60 in your car isn't good for the car & it's not safe for the driver. The same goes for kids. Stop trying to take, it's selfish. You are not just taking advatage of people. You are taking advatage of children, so you can get off.
You disgust me.
You are a disease & euthanasia is the only cure

[docsnavely]

I have an attraction to boys commonly like 10 years old and up; generally the time when they're starting puberty....... Also, while a portion of it is sexual, it is definately NOT unrestrained, and does NOT revolve around sex. Very common misperception.

again the kid toucher contradicts himself.....

And no, it ain't children. Use your common sense. I'm not sexually charged up about young children who have no idea what the f*ck life is about yet, nor would I even attempt anything with them. And no, I would not rape a child. That's just plain ignorance.

you're not charged up about children who have no idea about what the **** life is about huh? what in the hell do you think a 10 year old knows about life you worthless piece of ****?

And no, in your screwed up feeble mind, you wouldn't "rape" a child because you believe that a 10 year old has the power to consent to sex....

Show me an elementary school kid that has the power to say no to an overbearing predator who offers unconditional love in return for a penis in the butt.......

that poor scared kid would be frightened shitless which is exactly what you and your colleagues do to kids. intimidate, gain "willful consent" of a 10 year old, and then poke 'em in the pooper.

WHY HAVE THE MODERATORS HERE NOT DELETED ALL OF HIS POSTINGS AND BANNED HIM FROM THESE FORUMS? HE IS ADVOCATING THE RAPE OF MINORS, LINKING TO SUCH WEBSITES THAT ADVOCATE THE RAPING OF MINORS, AND I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE......

AS PER YOUR RULES, POSTINGS THAT ARE DEEMED OFFENSIVE WILL BE DELETED, AND GROUNDS FOR POSSIBLE REMOVAL FROM THE FORUMS.

FOLLOW YOUR OWN SELF IMPOSED RULES! THIS IS UTTERLY DISGUSTING!

[Lizard King]

So this time Rookiee says:

"Let's take ElNacho for a moment... (sorry, dude, you've just been inducted ) He's 14. Let's say that he met up with some luscious babe like Pamela Anderson sitting on the beach and she was into younger guys his age, and they made out, would it be rape? Even though it were fully consentual and no position of authority was involved? No coercion? C'mon, be honest. Forget I'm an evil pedo for a second and play along."

I can recall a few women in recent history who have gone to prison for just such a thing.
Ahhh, if only you were there with them.
Rookiee, you just aren't going to get it. If I really thought I could help you understand how honestly twisted and warped your perspective is, I would continue this. But what I, and several others on this forum, have said is very basic. And while I view some of America's laws as archaic and/or inappropriate, I know that the laws protecting children in this matter are not only needed, but are too lax.
So I'm done (I think) with this thread.

[rookiee]

A place to chat with racists & baby molesters.

I can't describe how inaccurate, exagerated and clogged your portrayal is of me; and of this forum. Baby molesters? WTF? Try listening to my show rather than spouting out mindless jargon.

No not mindless jargon, passion.


Passion? How about a total twisting of the situation and exageration of my position? Listen to your words: "Baby Molester". If you're honestly comparing your kid who's entering puberty to be a toddler, then how in the world can you consider me to be twisted? Reminds me of how they claim that men who have sex with fully developed teenagers are "cradle-robbers". Totally laughable. And people accuse ME of using semantics....

You obviously don't have children because if you did the thought of them being watched by someone wanting to molest them should infuriate you.

Actually, I've talked with lots of other pedos who have kids of their own and they're quite protective over their kids, both boys and girls. One of the DJ's on SQR has a son about 11 or so and he doesn't have a problem with his father being into what he's into. Shocking? Perhaps, but definately not surprising. And no, he doesn't touch his kid.

Wait look who I'm talking to it would probably arouse you I'm surprised you haven't had kids just so you can do them.

Sorry to dissapoint.

Don't tell me you wouldn't molest your own kids because the fact that you would steal the innocence from someone elses kids and not your own is a crock of crap too.

I won't lie and say, "Yeah, I got kids so you're wrong." I don't have kids. I don't know what my feelings would be, but from the evidence that I've seen from other BLs and GLs, I most likely would not have the same instincts that I do with others. The same kinda goes for siblings and other blood relatives... the usual person doesn't have feelings for them. I grew up in a house where I had siblings and I never was attracted to them before or after puberty, so I would simply have to say no, you're wrong.

I would die before I ever let such a podcast play over my speakers or through my buds.

Then stop acting like you know everything about my position.

You take children that shouldn't even be having sex yet,

I don't believe that someone who isn't capable of handling it should do it. Some are, some aren't. All based on what's taught to them; religious puritanical ideals or reality based on biology and scientific and sociological fact.

... and if they do it should be with someone their own experience level.

Why?

Everyone's different. Some choose to be with people their age, and some don't. Would it not make more sense to allow someone to be with who they want to be with regardless of age rather than forcing them into age castes based on what we merely believe is appropriate? Compatibility. If a kid who decides they want to experiment doesn't want to seek out someone who's older than them, then so be it. But I can gaurantee you there's lots of kids out there who fantasize about people older than them and they either end up going for it or they suppress their desires because it's not socially acceptable in our country. Those kids who do end up doing something usually end up getting hurt by the system when its found out. Both parties end up getting hurt by scornful mobs claiming child abuse when what's really happening is two human beings sharing each other consentually.

I'll give you an example of why I think strict peer relations is illogical. Recently, the Los Angeles gay alliance which mentors gay youth made the decision to completely remove all older counselors from its staff. They went entirely to peer counselors. Why? Because the "parental concern" that older staff are "inappropriate" strictly due to their age. (ie: they couldn't figure out why "old men and women" would show interest in their kids if it weren't obviously to get into their pants. Regardless of the natural attractions between the different generations, what they failed to take into account was that those volunteers who offered their time would be honorable enough to keep it in their pants because of their position of authority. It doesn't matter whether or not they had attractions for each other; they automatically assumed guilt. They went strictly to peer counselors. Blind leading the blind.

Imagine having all the teachers of every school in America be peer teachers. 8 year olds teaching other 8 year olds about math and science. Ridiculous. Why should it be any different toward sex and social education? The real issue at hand was the parents feared that since it was about SEX, the counselors obviously had to have ill-intent toward their kids. Stupidity and culture of fear.

Not some adult male that has been around the block. Part of growing up is experimenting. Going from 0-60 in your car isn't good for the car & it's not safe for the driver. The same goes for kids. Stop trying to take, it's selfish.

What the heck are you talking about?

You are not just taking advatage of people. You are taking advatage of children, so you can get off.

Again, why do you think this? 'cause I label myself with the P word?

You disgust me. You are a disease & euthanasia is the only cure

Danny Elfman, eat your heart out.

I am the virus, are you the cure?
I am morally, I’m morally impure
I am a disease and I am unclean
I am not part of god’s well oiled machine
Christian nation, assimilate me
Take me in your arms and set me free
I am part of a degenerate elite
Dragging our society into the streeet
Into the abyss and to the sewer don’t you see
The man just told me, he told me on tv

[monkey_one]

I bet you dont have the balls to be honest
here is my question
if a boy who is 10 to 13 years of age that you are attracted too consented to and wanted to be phisically intiment with you (some type of sexual conduct) would you partake in said conduct with that child

[rookiee]

I bet you dont have the balls to be honest
here is my question
if a boy who is 10 to 13 years of age that you are attracted too consented to and wanted to be phisically intiment with you (some type of sexual conduct) would you partake in said conduct with that child

If it were legal and there were no social repercussions faced; if it were totally socially acceptable, and I and his parents were sure that he were capable of making such a decision, and they approved of me, not only would I, but no one would think anything wrong of it. Thus, this question you're asking me would be considered foolhearty and pointless. It would be like a "No, duh." type thing.

It would be like me asking you, "If you and a woman were attracted to each other and you were consenting, would you do it?"

You're only asking me this because you think it's wrong in the first place.

[monkey_one]

I bet you dont have the balls to be honest
here is my question
if a boy who is 10 to 13 years of age that you are attracted too consented to and wanted to be phisically intiment with you (some type of sexual conduct) would you partake in said conduct with that child

If it were legal and there were no social repercussions faced; if it were totally socially acceptable, and I and his parents were sure that he were capable of making such a decision, and they approved of me, not only would I, but no one would think anything wrong of it. Thus, this question you're asking me would be considered foolhearty and pointless. It would be like a "No, duh." type thing.

It would be like me asking you, "If you and a woman were attracted to each other and you were consenting, would you do it?"

You're only asking me this because you think it's wrong in the first place.


no i am asking because I want you to be clear and stop beating around the bush on the posistion you so wholeheartedly defend
the point is we live in a culture that not only frowns on your beliefs we despise them I think you realize this you seem very inteligent
so why are you spending so much time here tryring to defend your beliefs we are just a bunch of nobodies (dont be mad kellie and jay and everbody else)
what is your purpose here rookie why all this energy come on be honest for once in this thread be honest dude

[rookiee]

no i am asking because I want you to be clear and stop beating around the bush on the posistion you so wholeheartedly defend
the point is we live in a culture that not only frowns on your beliefs we despise them I think you realize this you seem very inteligent
so why are you spending so much time here tryring to defend your beliefs we are just a bunch of nobodies (dont be mad kellie and jay and everbody else)
what is your purpose here rookie why all this energy come on be honest for once in this thread be honest dude

I was trying to give a Christmas greeting to everyone, but then I was attacked once again for my beliefs. All I'm doing is responding to the taunting in as straight forward and respectful manner possible. I'm defending myself.

I can't help it if the culture I live in doesn't accept me and hates me blindly, thinking I'm out to rape and pillage. Any form of counter-culture or social minority has faced it in history. Whether it be race, religion, sex, politics, etc., name it, it's been through the same stuff I'm going through now, along with all my brethren.

(Sorry, always wanted to use the word "brethren" in a sentence... ) :wink:

I have just as much right to be on this forum as anyone else. Most of the time, I'm not even bringing up my show or even attempting to get reactions or responses to anything related to it. Other people have a problem with me merely being here. I'm sorry if they feel that way.

[Kell]

Yes I consider my 8 year olds and my 6 year old my babies. - In the fact that I have to care for them. They are not old enough to do everything, They are not infants, but far from young adults. They are still young enough that I cook their meals, help pick out their clothes, I decide what's for dinner(they have input). Maybe babies was the wrong term kids, little kids does that make having sex with them better -NO! My son is doing 6th & 7th grade homework, he's a very smart boy. Do I think he should be able to make the decision to have sex with a 30 year old? Hell no. How bout when he's 10? Answer, still no. Children even at age ten hell even at age 14 or 15 should not be responsible for those kinds of life decisions.

Hell Rookie according to you 8 & 10 year olds are responsible enough to drive, vote, and have jobs, fight in a war. Right? I mean if they can make the decision to have sex. I mean it's just sex right, they wouldn't have the potential to get a STD right? I mean cause it costs money to go to the doctor and get medicine. The wouldn't have the potential to get pregnant right? I mean cause raising a child when you 11 is not an issue, I mean it's just sex. There is no harm or consequences involved right?

Let me get this right Rookie, you ask the parents of any little kids you find appealing if you can have a sexual relationship with them? If you do I will give you credit there. The majority of Pediphiles are lurking. You know what I mean they befriend most children and take advantage of them. Don't act like I'm making things up here. I've known enough of them and seen the disasters they've left in their wake.

The 0-60 comment , dude if you can't figure it out - think. A child shouldn't go from not having sex to having sex with an experienced adult. I mean come on - what is wrong with taking things slow?

I do think it's wrong that they didn't allow adults to be counselors for that group. The thing is that there are too many adults that have taken advantage of children in those situations. The only people that you have to blame are the pedaphile predacesors that were before you.
The sexual oriantation doesn't matter to me, my issue is an adult taking advantage of a child. Do you savour the innocence and fun happiness that children have that adults lose as they get older? Or the hairless underdeveloped bodies & sex organs? I'm not trying to start **** seriously I'm really curious?

Rookie - You said you have a buddy that has children and he wouldn't do that to them, right? Would he hook you up with his son? Is he cool with his son having sex with you or some other person(man or woman) at age 10? If not why not? Why wouldn't he want his son to experiance the same pleasures as the children he's with?

I'm not surprised that the kid doesn't have a problem he's probable been raised as it being okay.
I mean there are kids all over the world that think it's okay for a grown up to hit kids right? Because that is what they were raised seeing. Am I wrong here? I've seen it, my aunts husband had sex with their son. They divorced after she found out what had been going on. a few years later her son was forcing himself on her boyfriends son, because he thought that what you did when you liked someone. Nice huh. He probably should have had more therapy, but why, why would a 10 year old need therapy? I know because an adult took advantage of him.

[monkey_one]

no i am asking because I want you to be clear and stop beating around the bush on the posistion you so wholeheartedly defend
the point is we live in a culture that not only frowns on your beliefs we despise them I think you realize this you seem very inteligent
so why are you spending so much time here tryring to defend your beliefs we are just a bunch of nobodies (dont be mad kellie and jay and everbody else)
what is your purpose here rookie why all this energy come on be honest for once in this thread be honest dude

I was trying to give a Christmas greeting to everyone, but then I was attacked once again for my beliefs. All I'm doing is responding to the taunting in as straight forward and respectful manner possible. I'm defending myself.

I can't help it if the culture I live in doesn't accept me and hates me blindly, thinking I'm out to rape and pillage. Any form of counter-culture or social minority has faced it in history. Whether it be race, religion, sex, politics, etc., name it, it's been through the same stuff I'm going through now, along with all my brethren.

(Sorry, always wanted to use the word "brethren" in a sentence... ) :wink:
Mabey its my hatred for your beliefs that has blinded me to your intent of this post as an inocent way of persay socialising with your brethern in which u have in common the glorious and austious hobby of podcasting then it must suck to be you were because of your views you can not even find solidarity among what you consider to be your fellow comrades and amigos in which u share this commonality with
I am sorry if because of my predudice toward you that I mis undersood your intentions for I persieve that through all your posts you seem to be trying to persuade people in this forum thats you are misunderstood and that society in general is wrong and that people need to change the way they think and that if one person at a time just accept your view a little more each day pretty soon it will slowly cause a shift in awarness and opion till before we know it a pyadyme shift will happen within our culture and we will be walking around wrapped in sheets pukeing in vomtoriums having public orgies spouting philosy on the street corners oh yes and ****ing little boys with out having to be ordained as a priest in the roman cathlic church
sorry my bad merry christmass

[rookiee]

So this time Rookiee says:

"Let's take ElNacho for a moment... (sorry, dude, you've just been inducted ) He's 14. Let's say that he met up with some luscious babe like Pamela Anderson sitting on the beach and she was into younger guys his age, and they made out, would it be rape? Even though it were fully consentual and no position of authority was involved? No coercion? C'mon, be honest. Forget I'm an evil pedo for a second and play along."

I can recall a few women in recent history who have gone to prison for just such a thing.

Yeah, kinda like these two (http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Teacher-jailed-for-rape-marries-the-student-she-assaulted/2005/05/21/1116533582118.html?oneclick=true). Don't you just love the way the header says she "assaulted" him?

[rookiee]

etc, etc, etc.

Well, I'm sorry if I get preachy, but when someone calls me a baby molester I kinda take offense to it, y'know? :x

While I can understand that since people are shocked with me as I'm talking about some pretty alien concepts, it disgusts me that society is at such a point that someone can accuse me of such things and get away with it without even a flinch from the administration of the forum, and support from others. That's the very meaning of biased persecution.

[monkey_one]

this is a fourm not a pc convention what do you ****n expect

[rookiee]

this is a fourm not a pc convention what do you f*ck expect

I didn't say I didn't expect it. :)

[monkey_one]

you act like the victim here but if you acted on your beliefs you would be a preditor

[kcrockett]

You know I have kept silent the whole time but think I will chime in. You say that way back in Greek times this was acceptable. That may have been the case but also I think they realized that they were pretty F**ked up with what they were doing hence why it ended. I realized something watching a Law and Order SVU episode where they had this child molestor on there. Child molestors almost 99.9% of the time think their thoughts and feelings are ok and will convince themselves with all sorts of crazy logic to justify their thoughts and feelings. I wonder what your father or mother would have thought if they knew someone who is like you are now when you were a young kid. There is a reason why it's unacceptable regardless of what you think. The laws wont change so your only kidding yourself liking little kids you sick F*ck

[rookiee]

You know I have kept silent the whole time but think I will chime in. You say that way back in Greek times this was acceptable. That may have been the case but also I think they realized that they were pretty F**ked up with what they were doing hence why it ended.

Actually, it was not until the fall of the Roman Empire happened with the rise of Christianity when pederastic-oriented society itself fall into obscurity. The reason why is because when the new order of monotheism came into play, the gods of the time were also brought into obscurity and became mere myths or legends. Pederastic Eros like Ganymede, Cupid, Adonis, Pan, etc. were still kept around, and in fact are still cherished today but only as mere historical, romantic artifact. Cupid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupid), the Roman god of erotic love, is in fact a pre-pubescent boy (not a baby as is characterized in modern art), as is Ganymede (http://mapage.noos.fr/dardelf2/museum4/Ganymede.jpg). There's this one famous marble statue that I adore of Pan, Cupid, and Ganymede, lounging nude together, looking quite sexy, made of white marble and is in some european museum. I'll have to ask my friend Appy to lend me the link to the picture of it.

Homosexuality did not truly fall into disfavor until centuries later. The first accounts of the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah revolving around homosexuality didn't arrive until the 13th century, I believe, a couple centuries before the King James Bible v1.0 made it onto the shelves. In the meantime, homosexuality between men and boys lived on in one form or another, but none reflected the widespread views as had existed before. It was far from unaccepted, though. It never just "ended" as you are attempting to suggest.

I realized something watching a Law and Order SVU episode where they had this child molestor on there. Child molestors almost 99.9% of the time think their thoughts and feelings are ok and will convince themselves with all sorts of crazy logic to justify their thoughts and feelings.

Calm down, calm down... you can relax. The "child molester" was an actor. No worries. And the script was made by some hollywood business suits. They aren't real cops.

If you're going to base reality off of some souped up prime-time drama that panders to the audience for ratings while plastering you with advertisements for purple pills and quick snippets of the latest disasters at 11, I feel sorry for you.

Example: The news reports that 90% of sex crimes are done by repeat offenders. What they fail to mention is the number of offenders who actually repeat is somewhere between 5%-12%. So yeah, believe whatever you want to on some hyped up fear-driver show.

I wonder what your father or mother would have thought if they knew someone who is like you are now when you were a young kid.

I dunno, but long ago when I woke up one Christmas morning to have a mounted and framed poster of JTT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JTT) sitting in front of me on my computer chair, I kinda figured she had accepted me by then.

There is a reason why it's unacceptable regardless of what you think. The laws wont change so your only kidding yourself liking little kids you sick F*ck

I'm not interested in the changing of laws. I'm interested in the change of public perception as to what the real issue is.

[monkey_one]

You know I have kept silent the whole time but think I will chime in. You say that way back in Greek times this was acceptable. That may have been the case but also I think they realized that they were pretty F**ked up with what they were doing hence why it ended. I realized something watching a Law and Order SVU episode where they had this child molestor on there. Child molestors almost 99.9% of the time think their thoughts and feelings are ok and will convince themselves with all sorts of crazy logic to justify their thoughts and feelings. I wonder what your father or mother would have thought if they knew someone who is like you are now when you were a young kid. There is a reason why it's unacceptable regardless of what you think. The laws wont change so your only kidding yourself liking little kids you sick F*ck
are you talking to me or rookiee ?
I made the greek comment but please do not confuse me with rookiee or his beliefs!

[rookiee]

are you talking to me or rookiee ? -- I made the greek comment but please do not confuse me with rookiee or his beliefs!

Of course not! Wouldn't want to be tainted, would you!

[Lizard King]

Grrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmm....Achggg! I can't do it. I just can't remain silent. I wanted to, but this is killing me.
I am not a christian. I am a Pagan, and I have done a fair study of the Gods and Goddesses. One of the things I have learned is that Gods are the creations of their worshippers, and those gods evolve as their worshippers evolve. So, Greek culture affected the way they viewed the young, male God images.
And for me, this is not an issue of Homosexuality. While I am a straight male, I am comfortable with people who live a gay lifestyle. I don't even like the word "tolerance", due to the fact that it implies there is something to tolerate. If it is a loving relationship between two consenting adults, I'm happy for them.

But what you keep implying, trying to convince us, is that what you are doing is natural or normal.
There is nothing natural about sex with a person who has not finished puberty. They are not physically or emotionally ready.

The fact of the matter is this has nothing to do with Puritanical Christian views, or with Television mindwashing. I am well educated in psychology and sociology, but none of that would be necessary for me to understand that what you are saying is a good, and a normal thing, is anything but.

I feel confident that you probably have done your share of reading and studying the psychology behind why someone like you is attracted to children. The whole power and control, the re-capturing of childhood, the stealing of innocence to replace your own, the whole load. And I don't know what caused you to turn out so warped, but I seriously, seriously suggest you reconsider your views. Talk to someone. Get help. Do whatever it takes before you hurt another child.
Whatever it takes.

[ElNacho]

normal for me to be attracted to people my age, right? just checkin

[jawbone]

For Those Who Missed It The First Time (http://libsyn.com/media/jawbone/parodylogue.mp3)

[Lizard King]

normal for me to be attracted to people my age, right? just checkin

It's perfectly normal, El Nacho. Now as far as them being attracted to you...

:D

[kcrockett]

are you talking to me or rookiee ?
I made the greek comment but please do not confuse me with rookiee or his beliefs!

No i was talking about rookiee

[monkey_one]

cool btw luv ur avitar

[docsnavely]

I'm glad you took the time to reply to my comments kid toucher.........

answer my ****ing questions, or have you not found the way to explain your contradictions between finding a kid that is ready, and enjoying the pleasure of a 10 year old.....

again, please someone from Podcast Alley explain to me why this statement is being ignored....

WHY HAVE THE MODERATORS HERE NOT DELETED ALL OF HIS POSTINGS AND BANNED HIM FROM THESE FORUMS? HE IS ADVOCATING THE RAPE OF MINORS, LINKING TO SUCH WEBSITES THAT ADVOCATE THE RAPING OF MINORS, AND I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE......

AS PER YOUR RULES, POSTINGS THAT ARE DEEMED OFFENSIVE WILL BE DELETED, AND GROUNDS FOR POSSIBLE REMOVAL FROM THE FORUMS.

FOLLOW YOUR OWN SELF IMPOSED RULES! THIS IS UTTERLY DISGUSTING!

[rookiee]

Yes I consider my 8 year olds and my 6 year old my babies. - In the fact that I have to care for them. They are not old enough to do everything, They are not infants, but far from young adults. They are still young enough that I cook their meals, help pick out their clothes, I decide what's for dinner(they have input). Maybe babies was the wrong term kids, little kids does that make having sex with them better -NO!

I wasn't even talking about 6-8 year olds. I never even mentioned them. You're right, I don't think humans who haven't even fully developed their general social aptitudes should be having sex, nor would they really be naturally inclined to having sex in the first place, so why should they? Perhaps at the most, they'd want to "play doctor" or something out of natural curiousity. However, the role that adults take toward their 1st and 2nd graders as far as teaching kids about sex is way off kilter from other "3rd world" societies. A good movie to see in regards to this would be "At Play in the Fields of the Lord (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101373/)". American missionaries came to Brazil to convert them to "civilized" Christianity. There was one scene where some little kids are sitting together on a hammock and they're openly viewing some older teens making out and Kathy Bates walks in and disrupts the whole thing rather violently, saying it's disgusting and vile, etc. Whereas the kids didn't have any problem with it, SHE did, and that created this feeling of "dirtyness". This is where I'm saying we need to change our attitudes toward our own humanity. The idea that sex itself is inheirantly evil and nasty is why western civ hides them from it. That's where the problem lies. Be laid back, people, it's all good.

(Doc, this is where you come in and tell everyone not to listen to me 'cause I'm an evil pedo...)

My son is doing 6th & 7th grade homework, he's a very smart boy. Do I think he should be able to make the decision to have sex with a 30 year old? Hell no. How bout when he's 10? Answer, still no. Children even at age ten hell even at age 14 or 15 should not be responsible for those kinds of life decisions.

Why shouldn't they?

There's a difference between book smarts and street smarts. Perhaps you're concentrating too much on one area of their life. I'm just going off of what you're saying and not to say that you're not doing a good job at parenting.

I was able to read 5th grade level at age 4. However, my family was very overprotective of me. By the time I had reached 6th grade, socially, I was still at a 2nd grade level. That's just a self-assesment of myself, but I knew that I definately did not know how to socialize with peers. Actually, I thought most of them were rather immature, wanting to look at boobs and tits all the time. I usually socialized with the adults and teachers. This, plus my family's unwillingness to let me "grow up", set me back socially and I became a loner. Had I liberal parents who weren't afeared of me being hurt, perhaps I would've been more able to have a balanced life. I already had my attractions to other boys by 4th grade. I didn't call myself gay 'cause I didn't "feel" gay. I thought gay was about prancing about like a fairy and talking with a lisp.

Another example... The other day when stopping at a gas station, I was in a primarily mexican portion of town and there was this very heavily visited station, and there was a long line of cars waiting for the car wash; probably like 8 or 9.. anyways.. There was this SUV, and I saw this little 3 or 4 year old boy climb out (literally) from the SUV, money in hand, and he darted over to the minimart... had trouble opening the door, but he managed.. couple minutes later I saw him come back out with a soda, went back to the car, had some trouble getting the door back open, but eventually he did and he handed the soda to his parents.

I could not imagine some white, upper-class OC family letting their 3 or 4 year old kid do what he did. There's a difference in culture, there.

I know some families who don't believe in hiding sex from their kids, and no they're not pedophiles. They just tell them like it is. I once saw an 10-11 year old girl having a full-blown conversation with an adult gay male about his ex-boyfriend about some pretty "adult" stuff and neither of them thought anything of it. In my opinion, kids who are raised in that type of atmosphere are much more able to handle themselves SHOULD they be attacked or molested by someone. They knew the ins and outs of sex, they weren't taught that "gay is bad" or anything, and they knew that if some weirdo perv forced themselves on them, their parents would protect them. But, I could imagine that these parents probably would've let them have sexual relations if they wanted to. They were fully capable of knowing what they wanted 'cause they weren't hidden from it.

Hell Rookie according to you 8 & 10 year olds are responsible enough to drive, vote, and have jobs, fight in a war. Right?

Well, if they can let Bush in office.... :P

Seriously, I think most kids have a better perspective on war and peace than most adults do. Ask any bright 8 year old if they should kill people. Also, in older rural America and still today in Mexico, the average age people start driving and helping in the fields is around 12-13 years old. So don't think it's that far off from being possible.

I mean if they can make the decision to have sex. I mean it's just sex right, they wouldn't have the potential to get a STD right? I mean cause it costs money to go to the doctor and get medicine.

Have you talked to your 8 year old about STDs? I'm going to guess no. Probably haven't told them about sex yet in the first place. Is that empowering them? If you are informing them, great. That to me is more responsible. If they already knew, ask where they found out about it from... school? Friends?

The wouldn't have the potential to get pregnant right? I mean cause raising a child when you 11 is not an issue, I mean it's just sex. There is no harm or consequences involved right?

Do you think they should be passing out condoms at a Jr. High school? I do. The kids are already doing it. No sense being in denial or attempting to stop what's been going on for since the dawn of time.

Let me get this right Rookie, you ask the parents of any little kids you find appealing if you can have a sexual relationship with them? If you do I will give you credit there.

I've never done that because I've never had sex with a kid. As a teen I was too naive and afraid to bring up even looking at dirty pictures with my friends 'cause I was overprotected. I didn't have sex until I was 19 and that was with a 27 year old. But yeah, I could imagine a scenario being like... I'm friends with the family, the kid looks up to me, I'm honest with them about what I find attractive, they're non-judgemental about it, and the boy has always looked to me for advice on stuff. Y'know, a mentor. He's already knowledgable about sex, and maybe he's peeked in on one of his friends jacking off or something. One day he confides in me that he's gay, or that he finds guys attractive. I would tell him I don't have a problem with that and that it's natural. He would probably ask me questions like "What's it like?" and stuff. I would tell him about it. He would probably already have known about my past boyfriends or something. If he like, said something like, "What's yours look like?" or something, I wouldn't just pull it out and show him. :P First of all I would probably say something like, "C'mon, you already know what one looks like". He might persist and say, "Yeah, but I wanna see what YOURS looks like." At that point, I'd leave it alone and not persue it, but I might tell the parents about what happened, and get their opinion about it. If they were cool with it, and it were legal, then sure, why not?

Mind, you this isn't just some fantastical scenario. This is how things were written as law in the Netherlands until a couple years ago. 12-16; legal with special protections for the kid. http://ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm (still viewable under the old law, though now defunct.)

The majority of Pediphiles are lurking.

It's from fear and self-loathing. I know one guy who won't even go on the forums 'cause they're afraid of being served by the FBI for merely posting to a forum. He luckily found others to talk to about how he feels in real life. He was able to let it out. He's a very skittish person and takes medication for anxiety.

You know what I mean they befriend most children and take advantage of them. Don't act like I'm making things up here. I've known enough of them and seen the disasters they've left in their wake.

Lack of morality and support due to lack of foundation and community. A lot of gays were like this until the 60's with the rise of the gay rights movement. Tea rooms and Glory Holes were the only way to go for most gays back then. Anonymous sex in the backs of vans and alleyways. Pedophiles are going through the same thing right now. This is what has to be stopped.

The 0-60 comment , dude if you can't figure it out - think. A child shouldn't go from not having sex to having sex with an experienced adult. I mean come on - what is wrong with taking things slow?

Ahhh :) Yeah, I see.. ok, very true. The problem is, as I mentioned before, the issue isn't with taking it slow. The issue is with the impeding the natural course of biology of children early on by social restraint based on puritanical views. ie: "Don't touch yourself, Billy!" mentality. Ever watch Kinsey? The first words he says on his sex ed class is (paraphrasing) "In an unoppressed society, a 12 year old would already know most of the material we're about to cover here today."

I do think it's wrong that they didn't allow adults to be counselors for that group. The thing is that there are too many adults that have taken advantage of children in those situations. The only people that you have to blame are the pedaphile predacesors that were before you.

Ok, another movie quote. Mr Myagi: "There is no such thing as bad student, only bad teacher. Teacher say, student do." If you teach people that what they're feeling naturally and biologically is evil and sinful and that they should die and that they're bad people, and there's no help or support, that's what you're going to get. This is what I dealt with until I was 19 and I got on IRC and started talking with other BLs. I suddenly realized that what was taught to me was wrong. I wasn't some "dirty old man". Other people my age; younger even, Dr's, lawyers, hospitality clerks, teachers, police officers, judges, psychologists, high-ranking military officers, you name it. Some had been in jail for child porn or child abuse cases where the kid was forced to believe what he was doing was bad. This one guy lived in Thailand where he was with kid prostitutes.. he learned that one of his favorite ones was actually a displaced orphan living on the beaches selling himself. He did a lil research and found the kid's parents eventually and brought him back to his family deep in the jungles. They were so happy to have their son back and thanked this "evil pervert" for helping them find him. And yes, they knew the two were having sex. They didn't care. They knew the two loved each other. That night, they pushed a couple beds together so they could have some privacy 'cause they knew the guy was coming back to America and they'd never see each other again. These are the stories people never get to hear on the 5 o'clock news.

The sexual oriantation doesn't matter to me, my issue is an adult taking advantage of a child.

Same here.

Do you savour the innocence and fun happiness that children have that adults lose as they get older? Or the hairless underdeveloped bodies & sex organs? I'm not trying to start sh*t seriously I'm really curious?

For me? Both. I can only speak for myself. Some are just in it for the innocent attitudes kids have, and they don't care as much about the physical aspect; there's a huge debate going on in the BL community as to whether these people are "in denial" about themselves, but I don't think they are. Maybe a few are, but they can't all be. As Kinsey said, "everyone's different". Some people have higher libidos than others do. Some boylovers who call themselves "LBLs" (Little-Boylovers), find 4-8 year olds attractive, but it's usually not a sexual attraction, I've found as much as it's empathic. They're more interested in kissing and cuddling along with just being there for them. But then again, this all parallels with "normal" heterosexuals. Some find big tits attractive, or they're into long hair, or some are into the Goth look, etc... everyone's different.

Me? I'm not into younger kids. I was when I myself was younger, but my age of attraction grew as I got older. Whereas when I was a teenager, I didn't usually find my peers attractive, but these days I do. That also might have something to do with my not being fixated or obsessed anymore about it. Or it just might be biological... who knows.

Rookie - You said you have a buddy that has children and he wouldn't do that to them, right? Would he hook you up with his son?

Well, I didn't say "son", but it shouldn't matter either way. :) I just can't specify 'cause I don't know whether or not he'd want me talking about him and his kid.

My friend knows I would never come onto his kid. The kid really likes me and thinks I'm funny and stuff. The kid knows I'm bisexual and has no problem with it. Often they've asked their dad "Why do people have a problem with gay people? I don't see the problem with it." Very open and "bohemian" of a personality; really laid back. :)

Is he cool with his son having sex with you or some other person(man or woman) at age 10?

He's very concious that his kid's getting to the age where they have feelings and they're going through puberty right now and probably already is either making out or something. He just looks out for him/her. Like any father I'm sure that he would be concerned and would want to make sure whoever they're with has the best intentions. If the kid turned out to be bi or something, I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem with it.

If not why not? Why wouldn't he want his son to experiance the same pleasures as the children he's with?

Well, I didn't say the dad's done anything, either. Don't assume things. :) I can't speak for my friend as to his own sexual history so we can't go there. :) But as he put it to me one time, his only reservations are that, "Y'know, it's the same type of concern that any parent would have for their kid, y'know?"

I'm not surprised that the kid doesn't have a problem he's probable been raised as it being okay.

Actually, the kid doesn't know about their dad. He's too afraid to say anything 'cause he's still conflicted with it himself. He's been growing out of it.

I mean there are kids all over the world that think it's okay for a grown up to hit kids right? Because that is what they were raised seeing. Am I wrong here? I've seen it, my aunts husband had sex with their son. They divorced after she found out what had been going on. a few years later her son was forcing himself on her boyfriends son, because he thought that what you did when you liked someone. Nice huh. He probably should have had more therapy, but why, why would a 10 year old need therapy? I know because an adult took advantage of him.

Yeah, I'd agree, what happened there was abuse. No one should force anyone into anything they don't want to be in or aren't ready to be involved with. And I'm far from the only pedophile who feels this way. Some of us do have conciences. :(

I also feel that kids shouldn't be forced into other life-effecting activities too early on like religion, politics, sports, music, pre-school, etc.. Yes, if they have natural inclinations to do so, then let them be who they are, but my god, teaching a kid to learn the violin at 3 or something? Sure, they'll end up being a prodigy, but how would you ever know if it were their choice? Acceptable "child grooming" in action... Just let them be who they are. Like George Carlin says, "Kids today need helmets for everything 'cept jerking off."

Back to the point, though... I have family members who were molested and it ruined their outlook on life, so I know, I've been there. As I've said a few times before, the one true loss of innocence is that person's loss of fair value in the world.

If this means that the kid was touched or forced or coerced into something, then yes, they're going to lose their fair value as to what's right and wrong. BUT, on the other hand, if the kid WANTED to, and then they did it, and then AFTER the kid is made to feel bad and ashamed for what he did, when it's what he/she wanted to do, that is ALSO a loss of innocence, and a tragedy. Happens almost daily in this country.

[shameless-plug]My show is aimed to A) Reach out to those pedos who need to hear another voice out there, and B) Attempt to finally show once and for all to all those people out there who think we're scum that we aren't.[/shameless-plug]

That's the ONLY way things will get better. Jails are obsolete. They don't work. It's an archaic idea. Criminology is an archaic science and needs to be reformed. Maybe I'm idealistic, but I'd rather live in the clouds than in the mud. And I got thrown off of PCA 'cause I think this way. Whatever... I still wish everyone a Merry Christmas, regardless. Life's too short.

[Kell]

Well Rookiee -

Here's the thing - I'm glad to hear you aren't the type to hunt down kids. I was stereo typing. I'm NOT saying I agree or am okay with boy or girl loving. I still don't find it acceptable.

As far as my kids - We have had the little talk they expressed their curiosity, and I sat down with them and even went and found books for them that helped with visuals. I know all about street smarts & book smarts. My mom didn't have an ounce of street smarts the naivity was pathetic. I have street smarts, and book smarts... Well enough to get by.
I do agree that sex isn't bad, but like I said it's the adult taking advantage of a child that truly upsets me.

I just think in the long run people don't want to hear about people poo'ing on each other. They don't want to hear about how they beat their wife and kids. Ya see what I'm saying. You talk about loving boys people are gonna react. I can accept & like people, but when I tell them "hey I don't wanna hear that" & they keep pushing the boundries - People push back.

I'm saying I don't like to hear about sex with boys. I just wont read the threads you start. I'm never going to agree with what you say or believe.
I'm not going to push my beliefs on you and I'm not going to try and convince you how I live is okay and you should accept me, so give the same respect.

Am I making sense?

[kinkysex]

rookie,

i have a few simple questions:

have you ever engaged in sexaul activity with a person under 16 years of age?
if so, how old were you at the time of the sexual activity?
how often has this happened in your life?

have you ever engaged in sexaul activity with a person under 13 years of age?
if so, how old were you at the time of the sexual activity?
how often has this happened in your life?

You may want to quibble over the definition of "sexual activity". So let's establish that, 'sexual activity' means ANY action involving genitalia that caused you to be aroused. This includes bathing together, nude sports, etc....

[rookiee]

rookie,

i have a few simple questions:

I got a few complex answers. ;)

You may want to quibble over the definition of "sexual activity". So let's establish that, 'sexual activity' means ANY action involving genitalia that caused you to be aroused. This includes bathing together, nude sports, etc....

Right, there's a lot of people who misunderstand the difference between "sexual activity" and "sex". But, then there's those who consider the most non-sexual items or paraphernalia to be "sexual", which brings into question the whole "what is porn?" deal. Reminds me of Bush's quest "against pornography"... not CHILD pornography, just PORN, like, consenting adults screwing each other. THAT is just inane.

have you ever engaged in sexaul activity with a person under 16 years of age?

Yes.

if so, how old were you at the time of the sexual activity? How often has this happened in your life?

The closest I ever got was when I was about .. oh, 15 or 16, and he was 12. My dad used to download stuff from the BBSs back in the day. I was already proficient with DOS and he had an undelete program, and I was quite efficient at undeleting the stuff he'd download, copy it to a floppy, and copy it to my computer for my own personal... use. :roll: Looking back now, I realize he really had a thing for handcuffs and facials. :o ... AAAnyways, I was friends with this kid down the block and he told me he liked porn so I shared my stash with him. I never touched him and never saw him nude or anything, but we certainly enjoyed what we could, and he told me he was turned on. So was I, but I was way too afraid to try anything with him although I'm sure he would've been more than willing. I was afraid of "going to hell".

The only other time was when I was about 14, a boy about 7-8 years old who while I and a few other boys were in our backyard playing, pulled down his pants and waggled his wanker around. I was kinda shocked at the time, but at the same time, thought to myself, "daaammmnn". I was extremely attracted to him. The boy was being physically abused by his uncle, never bathed, always had bruises on him, and absolutely adored me. I used to hug him and put him on my lap and just be there for him and he used to hate going home. I used to volunteer at an elementary school and he was in my sibling's class, and I remember one time, when he was put in the corner (he was always getting into trouble), I talked with him and told him that I knew it was hard and that it wasn't his fault the other kids didn't like him. I used the analogy of when a seagull gets trapped in barbed wire and starts bleeding, the other seagulls will flee because they're afraid the blood will attract other predators. So, to make him feel better, I lied and told him that some seagulls might stay around and help it get free. I told him I was one of those seagulls. He promptly wrapped his arms around me and started crying. The teacher told him not to touch me, and bawled me out later for "letting" him. Later, CPS found out what was going on with his uncle, took him away from there, put him in a home, and I never saw him again.

Had another friend who once when he slept over, I think was coming onto me, but the most he did was change is clothes, saying, "It's ok, we're both boys.", and all I could remember doing was sitting there in my bed, giggling embarassedly. I knew I liked what I was seeing, but he was too "overweight" and "old" for my taste back then, plus I was way too embarassed to do anything other than just.. be embarassed.

I had crushes on a couple people my age back then.. when I was in 7th grade I had this one really cute 6th grade blonde whom I wish I could've mustered up the courage to engage in something with, but never did. He stayed for a sleepover once and he was laying next to me with his PJs on and all I remember is, "GOD-****IT-I-GOT-HIM-IN-MY-BED-WHY-THE-****-AREN'T-I-DOING-SOMEHING-ABOUT-IT!!"

Ironically enough, an older boy in 8th grade, who now I realize had a crush on ME, I think was doing something with the 6th grader.. so, I missed out on my chance 'cause I was too afraid to. :(

As I said before, when I got older, I was too afraid or ashamed to do anything with anyone, so I never did. Everything else was either done in drawings or in stories and my own imagination or from TV... Most of it was straight stuff, or watching National Geographic, or "The Nature of Sex" on PBS, LIFE magazine, JC Penney's Catalog, etc, Heavy Metal on Cinemax, hacking into our cable box and viewing the Playboy Channel through waggled lines (before digital encryption). There was no internet back then (that I knew of).

... That's.. about it, pretty much. :) I didn't actually become sexually active until I was 19. I still considered myself "straight". (ANYTHING but being "gay", I told myself.)

have you ever engaged in sexaul activity with a person under 13 years of age?
if so, how old were you at the time of the sexual activity?
how often has this happened in your life?

Everything I've ever done was just listed up there. Everything else had been with people of age.. I've had several boyfriends, a couple girlfriends. Most of the people I'm with are younger than me, but I've been with a couple older guys. I've had opportunities to be with people underage but I never went for it. I don't wanna **** up my life. I've often thought about moving somewhere more liberal like Netherlands or Spain, but I love where I live and just wanna make it better here. No sense running away with the US is already pushing its values on the east. It's spreading.

[rookiee]

Am I making sense?

All I did was make a talkshow. :) Picked up a mic and started ranting.

[tabulator32]

What did the fish say when he hit a concrete wall?

Dam!

:shock:

How bizarre. The only two people that piss me off in these forums are exact opposites.

One hates everyone and the other loves everyone.

In a completelyunrelated comment, I think I'm gonna start a new feature on my show called "Freak o' the week."

[ElNacho]

which will run for a complete 2 shows...

[tabulator32]

which will run for a complete 2 shows...

Yep! ...about all I can stand.

[kinkysex]

What was so hard about this?

have you ever engaged in sexaul activity with a person under 16 years of age? yes
if so, how old were you at the time of the sexual activity? 15 or 16
how often has this happened in your life? less than 5 times

have you ever engaged in sexaul activity with a person under 13 years of age? no
if so, how old were you at the time of the sexual activity? n/a
how often has this happened in your life? n/a


see how simple that is?

[kcrockett]

exactly she just asked for a simple question not the whole dang story. Sheesh

[Kell]

Am I making sense?

All I did was make a talkshow. :) Picked up a mic and started ranting.

I'm not talking about your podcast.
That is your freedom of speech & I can read what it's about & make my decision....


I'm talking about the posts. You have tried to get people to understand & accept your point of views. From all the posts I've read that's not happening.
People have tried to get you to understand & accept their point of views and from what I seen that's not going to happen either.
So What I was trying to get across was when you start posts saying accept me & my beliefs people react.

So maybe accept the fact that this group of people aren't going to bend. Stop pushing the brick wall. No one here from what I've read is willing to change their view, I'm not saying others wont, but in this forum it's a dead horse.

Not trying to impose my view, just trying to get the dead horse out of the forum.

Do ya see what I'm sayin? :)

[monkey_one]

every time someone posts on this thread a deadhorse gets its teeth ....ooops

[kinkysex]

exactly she just asked for a simple question not the whole dang story. Sheesh
I need an avatar with a penis! :lol:

[tabulator32]

Yep. I assumed you were the chick in the silhouette until I saw "Professor Tom" in your sig and realized otherwise.

I would imagine most people see the silhouette before they read your sig.

:P

[rookiee]

Do ya see what I'm sayin? :)

Hey, the only reason I joined this forum at first was 'cause people were badmouthing my show when all of a sudden Jack and Fosco suddenly considered it their personal agenda to rid PCA of all evil to boost their ratings then gloat about it on their show, as if they're better than me. They succeeded in blackmailing Adam and Ferf about removing my show, threatening to "mail the press that they're supporting child rapists". I joined during that whole debacle to defend my show, and since then, I have rarely pushed the issue unless otherwise badmouthed by others. Most of the time I'm trying to stay on topic and discuss technical issues, then the thread gets hijacked by Rookiee-haters, claiming I'm disrupting things by merely being here, so I defend myself against people saying I molest kids and stuff. The only reason why I go off on the huge speils is to defend myself. I got my own blog, my own podcast, and I'm completely satisfied with that. Like I said, if people have a problem with me being here, I'm sorry they feel that way. Didn't mean to get preachy, and I'm sorry if I offended you by it... :(

[docsnavely]

gotta love the alley.....

(should make this my sig instead of repeating this for the 3rd time)


WHY HAVE THE MODERATORS HERE NOT DELETED ALL OF HIS POSTINGS AND BANNED HIM FROM THESE FORUMS? HE IS ADVOCATING THE RAPE OF MINORS, LINKING TO SUCH WEBSITES THAT ADVOCATE THE RAPING OF MINORS, AND I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE......

AS PER YOUR RULES, POSTINGS THAT ARE DEEMED OFFENSIVE WILL BE DELETED, AND GROUNDS FOR POSSIBLE REMOVAL FROM THE FORUMS.

FOLLOW YOUR OWN SELF IMPOSED RULES! THIS IS UTTERLY DISGUSTING!