Adam Curry Caught Trying to Inflate His Role in Podcasting?

[FX]

Former MTV veejay and podcasting entrepreneur Adam Curry appears to have been caught anonymously editing the podcasting entry on Wikipedia to remove credit from other people and inflate his role in its creation.

When someone edits Wikipedia without logging in to a user account, the IP address is recorded to guard against abuse. Four times this year, an IP address controlled by Curry, 82.108.78.107, has made revisions involving the early history of podcasting.

Full article at:
http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2818

Also linked at Digg.com
http://www.digg.com/technology/Adam_Curry_Caught_in_Sticky_Wiki

[FOSCO]

Say it ain't so. :(

Fosco :roll:

[kinkysex]

Well, they say there is no such thing as bad press. I guess Curry's about to test that theory.

[Metaphore]

Only one thing to say about news like that.


OH SNAP!

[SteveRunner]

(enable soap box mode)

I have to say, (and this is only my opinion...I don't know Adam Curry from a wheel of cheese), but what's the big deal?

First off: he admitted to trying to edit the Wiki...isn't that a good thing? Isn't that what makes the Wiki so cool?

Second: he admitted to user confusion/error in his deletion of material. If I had a nickel for every time I “squewed” up...

Third: So, the guy is a major influence in PodCasting (again, I don't know much about him except from what I've read on other posts here on PCA) and he invested much of his time, money and energy in the media we obviously all appreciate, and he's got the GUTS to put it all on the line, just to make us indie (and not so indie) PodCasters look legitimate...and this teenie tiny little goofy mistake that he immediately admit to occurs and BLAM the whole world explodes??

Why are so many people jealous of this guy? Why aren’t more of us psyched that he’s putting everything on the line while we are the direct benefactors? I just don’t understand!

I love PodCasting because it’s so free and independent, like college radio was in the 80’s when I was doing morning drive in Lowell Mass…I mean, honestly how can this be a “big deal” and why is it that every other forum topic here is all about “big bad Curry”?

People: he’s trying to help make PodCasting a respected, legitimate thing! If he’s successful (and obviously many of us believe he will be) there are rewards for all of us (both with the quality of the show’s we’ll be able to hear, and the commercial success for many of YOU!).

Sorry to be all preachy up here on this stupid soap box, and trust me: I’m not affiliated with Curry or anyone else (you’ve never heard of me, probably never will) but when I read articles like this one, I sense fear and jealousy as palatable as that cheese wheel I was talking about earlier (smells about as bad too).

In conclusion: We should all hope Curry becomes a ba-zillionaire from this PodCasting thing, because he’s taking some MAJOR risks and we all will benefit from his work. And who really cares about a Wiki?

Here…have some cheese.

(disable soap box mode).

[Metaphore]

and again


OH SNAP!

[UndergroundMinds]

He'll have to sneak off to Starbucks if he wants to discreetly delete the new entries to his personal page in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Curry

see the "Adam Curry Caught in Sticky Wiki" section.

[UndergroundMinds]

from Digg:


"Curry didn't apologize...he claimed that his editing of the Wikipedia Podcasting entry was the result of him accidentally altering the page in an attempt to learn how to use Wikipedia...which does NOT explain why or how he has edited the page multiple times without a problem.

Curry is full of crap, full of himself, and just about as stupid as can be to think that he could "edit history" anonymously and then pass it off as the fumbling misadventure of a internet neophyte."

- groverallnight

[FX]

Take the article with a grain of salt. There are definately some good things Adam Curry has done for podcasting, such as promoting it and developing tools for it.

Adam Curry also has to endure a lot of sh*t that I personally (and probably most people reading this) would not want to have to put up with, such as people constaintly criticizing his every move including everything from his tech and business decisions, to making fun of his hair and clothes.

I was not aware that Adam admitted editing the article, but am glad to know that he did.

On the other hand, I do think it shows a bit of his ego that he would try to add things about himself and remove things about others several times. I especially bothers me that he would remove the names of others if it is unwarranted (I haven't looked at the history of podcasting enough to know who is "important" and who is not)

Also Wikipedia is not just "a wiki" it is the digital age's version of the Encyclopedia Britannica. It'd guess that is it the first wiki most non-geeks are exposed to and probably the most visited wiki in the world.

In closing, this was just too juicy a nugget of an article to ignore and not post a link to here on podcastalley. Maybe the article is a bit gossipy? Maybe it's a bit trashy? Maybe there's a bit of truth in it? Maybe there isn't. But with it already posted on www.digg.com thousands of people are going to read this and find out about it anyway, so I figured I'd post it on a real podcasting site and give everyone here a head's up. You all clicked on it and read it, didn't you!? lol :)

[Art a GoGo]

Everyone knows that Al Gore invented podcasting. I don't know why Curry won't just face up to the facts.

[ElNacho]

Everyone knows that Al Gore invented podcasting. I don't know why Curry won't just face up to the facts.

hahhaahhaaahaha

[UndergroundMinds]

mightyb (from Digg) writes:

"The "power" Curry has is relative....he doesn't own the medium by any stretch...and through things like this, people tend to start straying away.... To every Curry there is a Weiner, to every slashdot, there is a Digg...

Bottom line is that Curry doesn't get to the grassroots of it anymore. He just sits on his thrown in his made up monarchy and believes everyone thinks he is the best. The people that are his fans are essentially just sitting around, thinking that they are going to get a piece of the pie and be in his "inner circle"....for whatever that brings. But in reality, it is the people that are actually out there doing stuff, working with others, etc that will get noticed and make something out of it. He may get the initial ear of an apple or advertisers at some point, but as soon as that egg is cracked, others will be right in there doing their own things from the bottom up...Just look at the companies out there now making a buck off of podcasting....everything from equipment, to networks, to hosting companies....all outside the realm of curry and podshow. (this is specific to podcasting...on the other hand, I think he has done a great job with "podsafe music" and the like while without making it all about him for the most part)

Look at Kevin Rose at Digg.....i've followed him since he was practically an intern on the ScreenSavers on the old tech TV. He had an idea a year ago to create a new type of slashdot where the readers contributed to what they thought was relevant instead of a handful of "editors"....Today he has a couple million and VC and hasn't said a word about how digg is pioneering great content on the web vs. slashdot. (the site and us speak for this all the time!) He worked at the lowest level and got people involved in what he was doing by being equals...now today the loyalist on the site can make or break the next big thing (anyone know where to buy a digital camera??)....without the ego from the top...If he did have that ego, the loyalist here would then be the flamers and the trolls that would use his own medium to just bash him. Instead, Kevin Rose just sits back in the background spending that money on improving what everyone believes in, not trying to write history as he wants it to be percieved....(i would like to hang out on diggnation once though! :-) )

A long rant, but my point being that curry is a smug little bastard....he proves it everyday in his own words on the DSC. Making your #1 cause all about you and how you think people should perceive you won't win out in the end. Working hard and with others to get the best stuff done is what history will look back on as what was important."

- mightyb (from Digg)

[kickasspodcast]

(enable soap box mode)

I have to say, (and this is only my opinion...I don't know Adam Curry from a wheel of cheese), but what's the big deal?

First off: he admitted to trying to edit the Wiki...isn't that a good thing? Isn't that what makes the Wiki so cool?

Second: he admitted to user confusion/error in his deletion of material. If I had a nickel for every time I “squewed” up...

Third: So, the guy is a major influence in PodCasting (again, I don't know much about him except from what I've read on other posts here on PCA) and he invested much of his time, money and energy in the media we obviously all appreciate, and he's got the GUTS to put it all on the line, just to make us indie (and not so indie) PodCasters look legitimate...and this teenie tiny little goofy mistake that he immediately admit to occurs and BLAM the whole world explodes??

Why are so many people jealous of this guy? Why aren’t more of us psyched that he’s putting everything on the line while we are the direct benefactors? I just don’t understand!

I love PodCasting because it’s so free and independent, like college radio was in the 80’s when I was doing morning drive in Lowell Mass…I mean, honestly how can this be a “big deal” and why is it that every other forum topic here is all about “big bad Curry”?

People: he’s trying to help make PodCasting a respected, legitimate thing! If he’s successful (and obviously many of us believe he will be) there are rewards for all of us (both with the quality of the show’s we’ll be able to hear, and the commercial success for many of YOU!).

Sorry to be all preachy up here on this stupid soap box, and trust me: I’m not affiliated with Curry or anyone else (you’ve never heard of me, probably never will) but when I read articles like this one, I sense fear and jealousy as palatable as that cheese wheel I was talking about earlier (smells about as bad too).

In conclusion: We should all hope Curry becomes a ba-zillionaire from this PodCasting thing, because he’s taking some MAJOR risks and we all will benefit from his work. And who really cares about a Wiki?

Here…have some cheese.

(disable soap box mode).



You gotta be joking? It seems impossible for you to be critical of even the most objectional act. I think Podshow has applications you can fill out. This is indefensable. They ought to throw the book at him. Yet another thing to piss off even more people.

I would love for AC to come on and explain himself. He's like Bush just chalking every botched foul deed up to "the beauty of it" and "user error". Its unbelievable the egotism and absurdity. Promoting Racists Podcast, Being and Asss at his Unexpo, and now chopping up the wiki to give him more credit. He is lucky to be mentioned under podcasting at all. What a joke.


And just when I was warming up to Podshow...

Way to go AC, how pathetic.


:roll:

Jack

[FX]

UndergroundMinds - you post some interesting points, even if they are copied from a different web site. :)

However, the article was about Adam Curry editing an entry about the history of podcasting on www.wikipedia.org The subject of how people feel about Adam Curry is an entirely different matter.

I don't really care if people don't like Adam Curry, feel his approach to podcasting is wrong, or think he dresses funny. (I already know lots of people think all of those things. Good for them). But that is not what the article was about.

Was the way he edited the article on the history of podcasting the wrong thing to do or not? Yes or no and why?

It appears to me that he was trying to make himself a look a little better, and give himself a little more credit for pioneering in podcasting, but I don't know enough about the background of podcasting to tell for sure. I'm sure there is another side to it.

Maybe someone who knows more will speak up and clarify things, but more likely we'll just hear yet another enlightening comment about how someone doesn't like his 80s hairstyle. lol. :) This is the reason I limit my postings here on podcastalley and am SO GLAD I have no stake in "making it" in podcasting (as if there is any real money to be made in podcasting in the first place).

[FX]

I would love for AC to come on and explain himself. .... [snip].... Promoting Racists Podcast, Being and Asss at his Unexpo, and now chopping up the wiki to give him more credit...

Jack

Okay, what podcast do you think is racist that he is promoting? I'm not challenging you Jack. I honestly don't know.

What did he do at the unexpo? I'm just curious.

BTW, I listen to your podcast Jack and like it but need to get caught up on the last 5 or so episodes. I'm interested to see what the latest shows sound like.

[ElNacho]

at the expo he hid away from everyone and only peeked out at the podshow thing

[kickasspodcast]

Okay, what podcast do you think is racist that he is promoting? I'm not challenging you Jack. I honestly don't know.
He once told people to listen to a clearly vile neo nazi podcast and let him know what they think about it. He also defended a guy who thinks white nationalism is a political movement. its kinda old news, but ipodder.org is still nazi friendly. Here was the fiasco-thread about it.
http://www.podcastalley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4909

What did he do at the unexpo? I'm just curious.
Instead of hearing what I have to say about it, here's some other peoples own words:
http://www.lanceanderson.com/verge/VF2005_11_20.mp3
Towards the middle-end.

http://www.portablemediaexpo.com/podcastbros/11-16-05_PodcastBrothers.mp3
Scan to 26 minutes where they begin to talk about Podshow.

BTW, I listen to your podcast Jack and like it but need to get caught up on the last 5 or so episodes. I'm interested to see what the latest shows sound like.
Thanks! We are bout to record a bunch more and get them out, been too long.

I just don't understand how the guy (AC) keeps making so many mistakes. Its like, Podshow, Hire me to tell you what to do so you don't look like a bullying bafoon. Seriously, I am not cheap, but I'll make you look at lot better than you have in the last 6 months.

If interested, feel free to write, jack@kickasspodcast.com

Think about it,


Jack

PS- El Nacho, you are the man!

I have a feeling Yaz or someone could more completely explain the *****lery of the unexpo.

[kickasspodcast]

I must add that this kinda shananigans on Curry's behalf is admonishable on its own. What really sucks is how it can and will reflect on Podshow as a whole, and the good people who are on the inside. I know NOBODY IS GONNA BELIEVE ME, but I do think highly of alot of people who work for podshow. Espcially on a personal level. This may not matter to anyone but me, but its true. <crosses heart>

Thanks-

Jack

Many apologies for the double post.

[jimk]

People: he’s trying to help make PodCasting a respected, legitimate thing!

No, he's trying to get rich. Well, richer.

And who really cares about a Wiki?

Yeah, who cares about honest and integrity? Screw those stupid people.

[yaz]

he didn't show his face alot at the expo, he was too busy with madge weinstein being knee deep in his ***...

[intaviewer]

I guess my question is (not know much about Adam Curry except that apparently people think he has a big ego, but he's still popular anyway), was the information he removed/edited accurate? Does anyone know? I mean, sure, it looks really bad for him from that article, but the article doesn't provide any evidence that it was the correct statements to begin with, or are we supposed to know that already? Surely if the information edited was incorrect, and Adam editing makes it more correct, then he's done nothing wrong...right?

[mightyb]

mightyb (from Digg) writes:

"The "power" Curry has is relative....he doesn't own the medium by any stretch...and through things like this, people tend to start straying away.... To every Curry there is a Weiner, to every slashdot, there is a Digg...

Bottom line is that Curry doesn't get to the grassroots of it anymore. He just sits on his thrown in his made up monarchy and believes everyone thinks he is the best. The people that are his fans are essentially just sitting around, thinking that they are going to get a piece of the pie and be in his "inner circle"....for whatever that brings. But in reality, it is the people that are actually out there doing stuff, working with others, etc that will get noticed and make something out of it. He may get the initial ear of an apple or advertisers at some point, but as soon as that egg is cracked, others will be right in there doing their own things from the bottom up...Just look at the companies out there now making a buck off of podcasting....everything from equipment, to networks, to hosting companies....all outside the realm of curry and podshow. (this is specific to podcasting...on the other hand, I think he has done a great job with "podsafe music" and the like while without making it all about him for the most part)

Look at Kevin Rose at Digg.....i've followed him since he was practically an intern on the ScreenSavers on the old tech TV. He had an idea a year ago to create a new type of slashdot where the readers contributed to what they thought was relevant instead of a handful of "editors"....Today he has a couple million and VC and hasn't said a word about how digg is pioneering great content on the web vs. slashdot. (the site and us speak for this all the time!) He worked at the lowest level and got people involved in what he was doing by being equals...now today the loyalist on the site can make or break the next big thing (anyone know where to buy a digital camera??)....without the ego from the top...If he did have that ego, the loyalist here would then be the flamers and the trolls that would use his own medium to just bash him. Instead, Kevin Rose just sits back in the background spending that money on improving what everyone believes in, not trying to write history as he wants it to be percieved....(i would like to hang out on diggnation once though! :-) )

A long rant, but my point being that curry is a smug little bastard....he proves it everyday in his own words on the DSC. Making your #1 cause all about you and how you think people should perceive you won't win out in the end. Working hard and with others to get the best stuff done is what history will look back on as what was important."

- mightyb (from Digg)

Hey, that's ME!!!!!

My point being is that at the end of the day, history will write itself...

[SteveRunner]

...I think Podshow has applications you can fill out....

With all due respect Jack, I'm not interested in filling out any applications: PodCasting is just a hobby to me...I don't see any dollar signs in my future (and I like my day job too much :) )

Anyway, as I said before: this is just my opinion. You know the personalities and organizations a great deal more than I do (I hadn't even heard the name "Adam Curry" until this week).

I just wanted to respond to your notion that it was impossible for me to be negatively critical to "even the most objectional act".

That's not true: I just don't see how Curry's Wiki editing is THE "most objectional act".

I reserve the right to be wrong though :)

[podcastrant.com]

Adam talks about it on today's DSC #290. He explains the history of podcasting as he remembers it and gives props to Dave Winer, Kevin Marks, Doug Kaye and more.

None of us that have posted on this thread have any inside information into the history so all we can do is speculate. Adam does have his place in the history of podcasting and his personality may rub you wrong you the wrong way which I totally understand. However, in this case I don't think it was some grand scheme by him.

[mesoed]

Why is this such a big deal?

Honestly everyone... while I'm not a huge fan of Podshow as a company, it's pretty safe to say that AC needs to have at least a strong mention in the entry. If Adam Curry didn't take it upon himself to promote Podcasting initially (and push it to be the "next big thing in media"), do you think podcasting would have grown as quickly as it has? Yes it would have grown, but we could easily be 4-6 months behind where we are right now if this guy didn't have the money and psudo-clout to promote it.

[JanesDaddy]

The funny thing is to look at the Slashdot story (http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/15/1414206) from September 2004, when podcasting was in its infancy, and see how people (GEEKS!) misunderstood it then... "it's streaming radio" :lol: cracks me up!

[kickasspodcast]

I just wanted to respond to your notion that it was impossible for me to be negatively critical to "even the most objectional act".

That's not true: I just don't see how Curry's Wiki editing is THE "most objectional act".

Having read your views in this thread and in another thread regarding Podshow and Curry, it seems that you seem blinded by something. I hope you listened to the couple of shows that I mentioned. It'll open your eyes. Here is a tip, Don't trust Adam Curry. Treat him like anyone else you never met.

Why is this such a big deal?

Honestly everyone... while I'm not a huge fan of Podshow as a company, it's pretty safe to say that AC needs to have at least a strong mention in the entry. If Adam Curry didn't take it upon himself to promote Podcasting initially (and push it to be the "next big thing in media"), do you think podcasting would have grown as quickly as it has? Yes it would have grown, but we could easily be 4-6 months behind where we are right now if this guy didn't have the money and psudo-clout to promote it.

My, my, my... its amazing to see people ignoring the fact that Curry took it upon himself to edit and change written records that explain the origins of something he has spent the last year trying to make money on. Is it not enough that the changes he made were lies? Or is it that its ok because he got called out for it and is dealing with it on his show? I say we are 6 months BEHIND in podcasting BECAUSE of Curry and Bloom's limited view. I think under greater vision we would have been alot further along. Have you noticed that in ALL of podcasting, there are only 2 main websites that podcasters even visit? 2 websites in the world. Yeah, I know lotsa other small potatas out there, but PCA and the Pickle are it. PCA is 15x busier than podcasting pickle, and podcast alley had 3 months if 60% downtime, and however busy, still lacks alot of the basic resources one would expect to find in a podcasting website. Its been what? 6 months? And this is what we get? Can anyone tell me why its ok for someone to rewrite history to make them look better?

Can anyone tell me what Adam Curry did for them? No, playing your promo doesn't count. He asked you to send it in to him in the 1st place. No big favor AND it was probably one of his staff that picked your out anyways.


You know the personalities and organizations a great deal more than I do (I hadn't even heard the name "Adam Curry" until this week).
Cool, then trust our judgement ok? Hint: Jimk and I never agree on anything, except for pedophiles, nazicasters and apparently this issue with Adam Curry. If you ever see Jimk even sorta agree with me, its a truly ballanced opinion as neither of us make no bones about our differences.


I hear Curry talks about it on DSC, I am done with that show for ever. Maybe one of his fans wants to quote how he explains what he was thinking editing public wiki data for his own benefit. Not about to listen to that show anymore, I am sick of having to listen to him exhale and sigh and stammer his way through yet another explanation of how nothing is really his fault because his intensions were good.

I still haven't seen AC or and who can speak for AC make an announcement or explain themselves. I don't have to listen to his show to hear his excuse, thats lame.

@ Podcast Rant-

Come on Chad, speculate? You think podcasting was some secret thing until they brought it out and said tada!?! No, its history is well known, understood, and documented in several places, one of them is Wikipedia. The history of podcasting is pretty clear when you go back and listen to alot of what the pioneers have to say about it. Fortunately they blogged about most of it.


A long rant, but my point being that curry is a smug little bastard....he proves it everyday in his own words on the DSC. Making your #1 cause all about you and how you think people should perceive you won't win out in the end. Working hard and with others to get the best stuff done is what history will look back on as what was important."

- mightyb (from Digg)

Well said. I haven't seen you before, you are totally new to me, but you hit the nail on the head with this one.

Jack

And if doesn't get any clearer...

http://scripting.com/][/url]
In June I wrote People With Erasers about Wikipedia. Now after reading about the Seigenthaler affair, and revelations about Adam Curry's rewriting of the podcasting history -- the bigger problem is that Wikipedia is so often considered authoritative. That must stop now, surely. Every fact in there must be considered partisan, written by someone with a confict of interest. Further, we need to determine what authority means in the age of Internet scholarship. And we need to take a step back and ask if we really want the participants in history to write and rewrite the history. Isn't there a place in this century for historians, non-participants who observe and report on the events? Permanent link to this item in the archive.

"Adam Curry's rewriting of podcasting history..."

Just Shameful Mr. Curry.

<waves finger>

[podcastrant.com]

Jack you have to admit you have a hard-on for AC. Not sexually, you know the way I mean it. I've heard and read the stuff that people have said. It's just in this instance I don't think Adam was trying any sinister stuff.

I'm sorry, but I believe if you're not involved or a witness to it you really have no basis saying what people's motives are. Winer can because he was there. There's validity to that. With us, we weren't there and things always get lost in translation.

I know what podcasting means to me. That doesn't mean it has to mean the same thing to everyone.

[UndergroundMinds]

mightyb (from Digg) writes:

"The "power" Curry has is relative....he doesn't own the medium by any stretch...and through things like this, people tend to start straying away.... To every Curry there is a Weiner, to every slashdot, there is a Digg...

Bottom line is that Curry doesn't get to the grassroots of it anymore. He just sits on his thrown in his made up monarchy and believes everyone thinks he is the best. The people that are his fans are essentially just sitting around, thinking that they are going to get a piece of the pie and be in his "inner circle"....for whatever that brings. But in reality, it is the people that are actually out there doing stuff, working with others, etc that will get noticed and make something out of it. He may get the initial ear of an apple or advertisers at some point, but as soon as that egg is cracked, others will be right in there doing their own things from the bottom up...Just look at the companies out there now making a buck off of podcasting....everything from equipment, to networks, to hosting companies....all outside the realm of curry and podshow. (this is specific to podcasting...on the other hand, I think he has done a great job with "podsafe music" and the like while without making it all about him for the most part)

Look at Kevin Rose at Digg.....i've followed him since he was practically an intern on the ScreenSavers on the old tech TV. He had an idea a year ago to create a new type of slashdot where the readers contributed to what they thought was relevant instead of a handful of "editors"....Today he has a couple million and VC and hasn't said a word about how digg is pioneering great content on the web vs. slashdot. (the site and us speak for this all the time!) He worked at the lowest level and got people involved in what he was doing by being equals...now today the loyalist on the site can make or break the next big thing (anyone know where to buy a digital camera??)....without the ego from the top...If he did have that ego, the loyalist here would then be the flamers and the trolls that would use his own medium to just bash him. Instead, Kevin Rose just sits back in the background spending that money on improving what everyone believes in, not trying to write history as he wants it to be percieved....(i would like to hang out on diggnation once though! :-) )

A long rant, but my point being that curry is a smug little bastard....he proves it everyday in his own words on the DSC. Making your #1 cause all about you and how you think people should perceive you won't win out in the end. Working hard and with others to get the best stuff done is what history will look back on as what was important."

- mightyb (from Digg)

Hey, that's ME!!!!!

My point being is that at the end of the day, history will write itself...


phew, glad I didn't plagiarize this once :)

you made good points, which is why i felt inclined to quote you :)

[kickasspodcast]

Jack you have to admit you have a hard-on for AC. Not sexually, you know the way I mean it. I've heard and read the stuff that people have said. It's just in this instance I don't think Adam was trying any sinister stuff.

I'm sorry, but I believe if you're not involved or a witness to it you really have no basis saying what people's motives are. Winer can because he was there. There's validity to that. With us, we weren't there and things always get lost in translation.

I know what podcasting means to me. That doesn't mean it has to mean the same thing to everyone.


I have heard and read plenty to know that its entirely shady what Curry did. My feelings towards Curry aren't really applicable. It is about his actions. That is what this thread is about, his actions are shameless, dishonest and shady. It sucks because lotsa people wanna cut him slack, but then he goes and does X, Y, or Z. Also, motives never matter, its about what you end up doing. He tried to rewrite podcasting history. End of story.

Jack

[podcastrant.com]

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

I see your point. I just don't feel the same way.

Next :wink:

[jawbone]

First editing the wiki...now this??

http://tech100.blogspot.com/2005/12/adam-curry-announces-he-is-father-of.html

What next?

[kevdo]

"Adam Curry's rewriting of podcasting history..."

Just Shameful Mr. Curry.

<waves finger>
Well, here's a perfect example of words taken out of context. That isn't what Winer meant and you know it.

[kickasspodcast]

What he says is this, and don't forget David Winer isn't just some techie, he's a very learned writer.

"Adam Curry's rewriting of the podcasting history -- the bigger problem is that Wikipedia is so often considered authoritative"

I suppose i can only interpret this as one guy, but to me it says that Adam Curry's rewriting of podcasting history is a BIG problem, the Bigger problem is that wiki is so often considered authorative. People don't usually say, the bigger problem is, unless the 1st thing was indeed a problem.

Like,

I just broke my leg, the bigger problem is my hair is on fire.

What Winer does (imho) is what he always, does, puts aside the little stuff
and tries to focus on progressing the technology, its what he does best.

I really am gonna have to wait, laugh, and see what everyone says, now that this thing has gotten more traction, it will be interesting for sure. I have laughed my *** off seeing them both blog about it, but Winer is so much better of a writer I almost feel bad.

Jack

[ElNacho]

what's imho?

[kickasspodcast]

In my humble opinion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imho


Grats on winning the word game again dude!


Jack

[ElNacho]

swut i was thinkin, k
tanx...but what i didnt win latest :?

[FX]

This article mentions 2 high profile incidents involving wikipedia last week, including the Adam Curry issue, which is mentioned in the last part of the article.

Growing pains for Wikipedia
http://news.com.com/Growing+pains+for+Wikipedia/2100-1025_3-5981119.html

[kickasspodcast]

A Letter from Dave W. to John Palfrey at Berkman about looking at the history of podcasting in academic way.

I thought it was really interesting that he cuts to the chase and says basically, lets fix this, here is why:

"I think basically it's going to turn out to be a good thing that it happened, because we can now perhaps involve some serious academics in the process, for touchy subjects like podcasting, where all the principals are alive and active, and some have commercial interests, and some of them start abusing the Wikipedia for those commercial interests."

http://www.scripting.com/2005/12/06.html#todaysEmailToJohnPalfrey


The Saga Continues...


Jack

[podcastrant.com]

Jack,
Let me state first that I'm a fan of Dave Winer and his Morning Coffee Notes. I think this just proves that everything is not as black and white as it is made to seem on this board sometimes and that everyone can have their agenda.

This was on podcastingnews:

Winer has previously been accused of the same sort of revisionism as Curry. In 2003, blogger Juha Haataja wrote "Anyone that's tangled with Winer knows how he will write something vicious, and then later delete it or edit it -- after the damage has been done."

Winer recently suggested that Curry owed him equity in Podshow, Curry's podcasting company. When Winer changed his posting, Curry called him on it. Winer explained that "It was a publishing glitch, which I fixed."

You might already know about this. If so, then others might find use in it.

Here's the link of origin:
http://weblog.burningbird.net/archives/2003/07/11/forget-the-law-forget-the-technology-whats-the-decent-thing-to-do

[podcastrant.com]

double post, double post....i know i know...

Days have passed, things have been read and my opinion has changed.

Jack, I have swung more towards your way (not totally, but more than I was).

I know most people won't care, but to those that converse with me on a regular basis.

[ElNacho]

people dont care chad

:roll: hehe

[Achilles]

...washed up mtv guy whose hair is thinning and now needs to take credit for something he didnt do so people will still pay attention.

reminds me of my uncle earl. Used to be a weather man. Says he invented Doppler. I dont really beleive him

[docsnavely]

unless your uncle worked for the department of war naval sea systems division pre WWII, i would bet your premonitions are correct....

doppler is out anyways. phased array is where it's at

[naughty]

The podcast community should gather and thank Adam for starting so much dialouge and buzz. With him pushing the business end of all of this it will only mean that podcasting will become more popular and we all will have more listeners. Wiki is for changing. You dont like it change it to the way you want it. Why should he be perfect? Are any of us? If you are call me. :twisted: I will be waiting-----

[docsnavely]

not to be rude, but i've noticed all of the new people are saying they have only praise for curry, but many of us who have been doing this for a while have some animosity towards the guy.....

give it time, you will see why true podcasters get annoyed with his antics.

[nerdblurb]

Just to teach him a little lesson, we changed all the references to him in the history of podcast to Nerdblurb in the Wikipedia. It actually stayed up for a good 5 hours LOL. We have a pic of the deed on our forums.

http://forums.nerdblurb.com/forums/2786/ShowPost.aspx

Yes it was a little immature but it was still fun and a little ironic :D.

Edgar
www.nerdblurb.com

[Achilles]

good work nerdblurb...ers.

I feel like this is a rap war, and hes sayin he invented the pimp game. And we got lovers and haters but either way, spotlight is on the dude. I'm not sayin somone should cap this guy. Im just sayin someone needs to just get the lowdown dirty behind it. Curry Ressurection: life in the strugle. Direct to video, i could feel it

Phased array represent

[kinkysex]

good work nerdblurb...ers.

I feel like this is a rap war, and hes sayin he invented the pimp game. And we got lovers and haters but either way, spotlight is on the dude. I'm not sayin somone should cap this guy. Im just sayin someone needs to just get the lowdown dirty behind it. Curry Ressurection: life in the strugle. Direct to video, i could feel it

Phased array represent

It's like I've been sayin' for years, "Fo Shizzle."

[docsnavely]

holy ****....

kinky sex....

if you don't listen to bibb and yaz, you should be....

http://www.bibbandyaz.com

werd up yo!

[yaz]

holla, nug...

[garybibb]

Word life yo. If you want da f'real on that shizzle y'all needs to be big pimpin' on ovah to our show yo. Spinners and all.