Nobodies #11 - Venting on an Uncool Racial Comment.

[Kell]

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[OuterLimits]

To be a "wigger" you have to be biologically white and culturally Afreakan. "Oreo" is the term used for Afreakans that try to act white.

[Kell]

Actually when you say wigger you are saying white nigger. When you call someone a wigger it's not like what up wigger. It's a term stating that they are a white person behaving or dressing like a nigger.

So, if a "person" regardless of color acts in an urban way arcording to you they are acting like an African American, because aparently urban is limited to a specific color.


Actually the defination of nigger is a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people.

Would you actually be comfortable using the term in front of African Americans?
An "Oreo" as you state is just another insulting term to refer to a mulato.
1/2 black, 1/2 white or any other mixed race. I think someone else had the same narrow mentality as you umm his name was George Jefferson. Glad to see we have came so far.

Sincerely sickened & depressed by the ignorance,
~Kelli~

[OuterLimits]

Actually when you say wigger you are saying white nigger. When you call someone a wigger it's not like what up wigger. It's a term stating that they are a white person behaving or dressing like a nigger.

So, if a "person" regardless of color acts in an urban way arcording to you they are acting like an African American, because aparently urban is limited to a specific color.

I think you are confusing things with 'urban'. That could mean anyone living in a city anywhere.

You might not like the words 'white' or 'nigger' for personal reasons but they are used in the real world to describe real things. And before you get on your soapbox to lecture 'us' (your presumably white audience), keep in mind that blacks use the term all the time.

Actually the defination of nigger is a disparaging term for a member of any socially, economically, or politically deprived group of people.

I've heard better definitions...

Would you actually be comfortable using the term in front of African Americans?

What would be the point?

An "Oreo" as you state is just another insulting term to refer to a mulato.
1/2 black, 1/2 white or any other mixed race. I think someone else had the same narrow mentality as you umm his name was George Jefferson. Glad to see we have came so far.

Oreo can be used for a mulatto, but also metaphorically. Think about the cookie itself: black on the outside (physical appearence) and white on the inside (culture or programming); cf. 'Uncle Tom".

From the Urban Dictionary:

Term for African Americans that the black community is generally offended with for betraying their roots usually for dating caucasion girls, dressing too white, talking too white, etc. The term is branded OREO since they are "Black on the outside, White on the inside""**** Marcus, have you seen Deon lately? The brother is a total Oreo, he's all drivin' a BMW with his white biatch. The brotha forgot where he came from!"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oreo

[Seuss]

http://racist-****s.urbanup.com/244801

[Kell]

Dear Outer Limits,
There is honestly no use in trying to reason with someone who has an anti-semetic web site linked on their profile.

Just because people say things doesn't mean that it's acceptable.

It seems your ideals & way of thinking may be more appreciated in your anti Jew forums. :wink:

Peace Out
~Kelli~

[Lizard King]

I find this to be a really interesting thread.
It seems to me that Kelli has asked a valid question. The question as I see it is this, how do obvious racist terms become common, acceptable slang?
I for one am not okay with the trend. It desensitizes us to a problem that is too easily ignored.
I also think that Outer Limits has some interesting things to say. "You might not like the words 'white' or 'nigger' for personal reasons but they are used in the real world to describe real things" was a really interesting quote. Frightening, really. Am I the only one to notice that she is calling black people "niggers" in this quote?
Wow, Outer Limits. Combine that quote with the fact that you actually DO have an Anti-Semetic website link, (which I checked out and it has a nice big header talking about "Hammering One Jew at a Time") and you are one sick lady in my opinion.

[Lizard King]

OH! And one other thing...
Outer Limits, What the hell is an "Afreakan"?
That one is really a new one to me.

[Seuss]

Re: "Afreakan" It is likely too ignorant to spell African/Afrikan correctly and/or inserting freak into it made it's black heart happy.

[Hittman]

I for one am not okay with the trend. It desensitizes us to a problem that is too easily ignored.

OTOH, is defuses the word, lets the insulted take possession of it. When blacks call each other the N word (personally I don’t even like typing it) they make it much less powerful out of the mouth of a racist like Outer Limits.

OTOOH, other people’s language has no power over you unless you let it affect you.

OTO,O,OH, I the word wigger is pretty descriptive, and while some people might take offense to it, if they wants to get all up in yo’ face about it, they better have a replacement word that’s just as descriptive.

Wiggers don’t realize what a pathetic, effen joke they are.

[Lizard King]

Why is a white person who speaks or dresses "urban" (for lack of a better term) more foolish than a black person?
My feeling is, descriptive or not, Wigger means "white nigger". Since I would not call anyone a nigger, I would not call anyone a wigger.
So I guess my point is, why do you need a replacement for that word? What does it matter if a person is white and they dress or talk hiphop? (There, maybe that is a better word than "urban".) Yeah, Vanilla Ice was worth quite a few laughs, but not because he was white, but because he was a remarkable dumbass.
A poser is a poser, regardless or their skin color. I've known some suburban black kids who try to claim street creds that are as big a joke as anyone.

[SPThom]

I would never use the term "nigger" except in discussions such as these, but I think the term "wigger" is an entirely different situation.

"Nigger" is, clearly, a racial slur. It is generally used to describe people of a certain skin color. (Unless you're Chris Rock, and you distinguish the difference between a black person and a "nigger". But only Chris Rock can get by with that.) The urban concept of a "nigga" has also become its own sort of stereotype.

"Wigger", on the other hand, is a term based on a person's actions and behavior. Yes, it's used about a white person, but that white person isn't impersonating a black person, he's impersonating that SAME stereotype of the "nigger/nigga".

So that's my theory.

Also of note that there are considerable differences of implication between the words "nigger", "wigger", "nigga", and "wigga".

[Hittman]

Why is a white person who speaks or dresses "urban" (for lack of a better term) more foolish than a black person?

I never said they were more foolish than a black person. Anyone, of any color, who devotes time to the gangsta look and lifestyle is an idiot. And they’re doubly stupid if they whine about being discriminated against because they’ve chosen to look and act like losers.

A poser is a poser, regardless or their skin color. I've known some suburban black kids who try to claim street creds that are as big a joke as anyone.

Eggs-Zactly.

[Kell]

I thought we used the term poser for someone that "acted" like someone other than they are. Is that not racially discriptive enough to satisfy people? SPThom you keep telling yourself it's an entirely different situation, so it's okay. I'm sure Outer limits has your back on that.

I live in the midwest, and had never heard that term used in my life, until now. I'm surprised, shocked and saddened that people are comfortable using derogatory terms to describe any race or group of people.

[yaz]

ha! wiggers, niggers, chiggers...you people all need to fukkin relax and realize they are just words and when those ignorant words get to you that means that the ignorant people that use them are beating you...c'mon now...

if those words have a negative connotation and it bothers you, it must be because it describes you, if it doesn't then why should you give a shite???

[Kell]

It's not the words that get to me -
I guess I was more surprised by the podcaster that said it. I honestly thought better of them.