What's Your Biggest Gripe With Pride?

[no1slistening]

We all have it. And we've all had to swallow it a few times in our lives. A friend recently CB'd me from dating her friend because of pride. I hate being CB'd.

Let me know what you think, for next week's show:

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[rookiee]

One who is truly proud would never indignate another's pride. Those that are "too proud" in the sense that they automatically refute others' free will and dignity aren't proud; they're insecure.

[erynlynn]

you're insecure. you have to f u c k kids to feel "loved". douchebag.

and yes, i still want to to get hit by a bus...

or a train...i like the train better though...

yeah, let's go with that...

[The Truth]

you're insecure. you have to f u c k kids to feel "loved". douchebag.

and yes, i still want to to get hit by a bus...

or a train...i like the train better though...

yeah, let's go with that...

Second post and it's quite a doozy!

[erynlynn]

i had plenty of other posts last night...

but they got deleted...banned...erased...whatever the frick ya wanna call it...

too bad ya missed it...really

[The Truth]

To be honest I'm not really all that broken up about it.

[erynlynn]

like i really care anyway?

[The Truth]

Yes. You do.

[erynlynn]

i'm sarcastic and i hate pretty much everyone.

deal with it or go cry about it...like it makes a difference to me?

[erynlynn]

i really care that you don't care about the posts i made last night that you missed...you're just as retarded as the other guy

[The Truth]

i really care that you don't care about the posts i made last night that you missed...you're just as retarded as the other guy

You mean Patrick?

[erynlynn]

patrick? who the frick knows, who cares

some kiddy f u c k e r...

n you're not too bright yourself...

i hate you already...congrats.

[The Truth]

You didn't capitalize properly and your grammar is terrible.

[erynlynn]

omg! call in my second grade teacher!!! i don't capitalize...my grammar is terrible...and this guy's a frickin moron...cause this site means nothing...it's 2am...i just got in from work...n i like startin **** with idiots...

[yaz]

hey truth, why do you think that everyone cares about what you think soooo much...

is this an attempt for some kind of life??? because i could give a s h i t what you say, i just like telling you to go f u c k yourself...

hey truth, i think its time to venture out of your mom's basement...

[Hittman]

i had plenty of other posts last night...

but they got deleted...banned...erased...whatever the frick ya wanna call it...

too bad ya missed it...really

Welcome to Podcast Alley.

[Version3]

anybody see a pride discussion around here? I came looking for it, but it seems to be gone.

Did someone delete the gripes about pride discussion?

[erynlynn]

We all have it. And we've all had to swallow it a few times in our lives.

i don't swallow my pride. not for you, not for anyone.

i got a pm to be good...ha! :twisted:

but i'll tell ya somethin...the truth is still annoying and i still hate child molestors...they should both just curl up n die end of story

[Hittman]

At the risk of violating custom, I’m going to get back to the intent of the thread.

My biggest gripe with pride is people who are proud of things they have nothing to do with. “I’m proud to be black/Hispanic/Irish/Italian/whatever.” Really? What did you do to become one? Being proud of the heritage of your ancestors is almost as ridiculous.

“Gay Pride.” Again, not something someone chooses or does on their own. What’s if there to be proud about? You can be proud of overcoming obstacles inherent with the lifestyle, but being proud of being gay is dumb.

Pride over looks is stupid. (With one Exception – Sarah K, who makes it funny.) So you got good genes. Big deal.

The dumbest of all is pride over not being something. Canadians who are proud they’re not Americans. Fundies who are proud they’re not atheists. Nicotine Nannies who take great pride in not smoking. These are people whose source of self esteem comes almost entirely from looking down at others. A few decades ago, they would have been racists and homophobes. They’ve abandoned that, not because it’s wrong, but because it’s unfashionable, and have chosen other people to look down on. Their pride is the shallowest and most artificial.

Then there are those who can’t handle their booze/pot/tobacco/whatever whose primary source of pride is that they haven’t done something in X days/months/years. OK, OK, it’s tough not to succumb to temptation, especially when it’s everywhere, but we’re tired of hearing about it. I’d have a lot more respect for twelve step programs if they included a thirteenth step – now that you’ve conquered your addiction, get over it, put it behind you and get on with your life, instead of being obsessed with it forever.

Almost as dumb is pride in one’s own stupidity. “I’m no good at that” or “I don’t know anything about that” said as if it were a real accomplishment.

Pride should be about something you’ve accomplished. Something you’ve accomplished. Something big, something small, something in between, it doesn’t matter. Hell, even failure can be a source of pride: “It didn’t work, but I learned something.” (Not that failure should be easily accepted, it just shouldn’t be feared.)

Do stuff. I really doesn’t matter what, just get out there and do stuff. Do anything you find remotely interesting. When you get tired of it, move on. You’ll build up a rich store of experience, stories to tell, and most importantly (to this discussion) a sense of pride that’s based on real, justifiable self-esteem.

[erynlynn]

Nicotine Nannies who take great pride in not smoking. These are people whose source of self esteem comes almost entirely from looking down at others

well, i'm **** frickin proud to be straight edge!!!

and once again, i'm not going to swallow my pride...not for you, not for anyone.

so what if i look down upon the losers who feel that they "need" a substance to get over small problems of everyday life? if anyone feels bad or guilty about what they do...they **** well should...n they should do somethin about it...end of story.

*and i was even good in this post.*

[The Truth]

*and i was even good in this post.*

I'm so PROUD of you!!!

[tipsychicks]

i'm sarcastic and i hate pretty much everyone.

we might be soulmates. except there are times when i'm pathetically earnest as well. does that ever happen to you?

[tipsychicks]

Pride should be about something you’ve accomplished. Something you’ve accomplished. Something big, something small, something in between, it doesn’t matter. Hell, even failure can be a source of pride: “It didn’t work, but I learned something.” (Not that failure should be easily accepted, it just shouldn’t be feared.)

Do stuff. I really doesn’t matter what, just get out there and do stuff. Do anything you find remotely interesting. When you get tired of it, move on. You’ll build up a rich store of experience, stories to tell, and most importantly (to this discussion) a sense of pride that’s based on real, justifiable self-esteem.

is there any proper pride? isn't pride defined as "the quality of having an excessively high opinion of oneself and one's accomplishements"? my advice is, do not have pride. pride is an obstacle because the moment you are too proud you will stop trying. my advice is - never be satisfied.

and also - if you want to fight, check out the spatcast forums! why post vicious and sarcastic comments in a place where they are so routinely resented? at spatcast, we have an entire category in our forum dedicated to insults! check it out! we'll only delete your posts if they're bad - and by 'bad' we don't mean offensive, we mean witless.

www.spatcast.com/forum

[tipsychicks]

one of the worst forms of pride is the pride that causes you to judge another and refuse to change your hastily formed opinion.

it takes a lifetime to know another person.

equally bad, or worse, is to hurt another and refuse to apologize or make amends because of your 'pride.'

this is something akin to crime.

[Hittman]

and once again, i'm not going to swallow my pride...not for you, not for anyone.

But would you swallow my pride?

so what if i look down upon the losers who feel that they "need" a substance to get over small problems of everyday life? if anyone feels bad or guilty about what they do...they d*mn well should...n they should do somethin about it...end of story.

Thanks for proving my point. Losers get their pride by looking down on other people and bragging about not doing things.

Now, if you had actually accomplished something in your life, you’d know what real pride feels like. Instead, you’ll have to do with the cheap imitation.

is there any proper pride? isn't pride defined as "the quality of having an excessively high opinion of oneself and one's accomplishments"? my advice is, do not have pride. pride is an obstacle because the moment you are too proud you will stop trying. my advice is - never be satisfied.

Good point. Pride and self-esteem are often confused. I don’t think pride necessarily has to be a bad thing, unless it’s overdone. Perhaps pride should be short term, a feeling of exhilaration that fades into healthy self-esteem.

[tipsychicks]

Perhaps pride should be short term, a feeling of exhilaration that fades into healthy self-esteem.

i like that. that is very well said. you should write that down.

[no1slistening]

Jeezus, what happened to my thread?

[erynlynn]

I'm so PROUD of you!!! Go kill yourself truth...no one likes you.

i'm pathetically earnest as well. does that ever happen to you?
nope.

But would you swallow my pride?
no, but i'd be more than happy to kick your frickin teeth in...

Thanks for proving my point. Losers get their pride by looking down on other people and bragging about not doing things.

Now, if you had actually accomplished something in your life, you’d know what real pride feels like. Instead, you’ll have to do with the cheap imitation.

i've accomplished a lot in my life...and that's nothing that i have to prove to you or anyone else...i know what i've done is good.

among many things...one of them is that i didn't fall victim like all the others, (i call them losers), to weakness and peer pressure...

now if you feel as though that's not a valid, or good enough accomplishment...well, i really don't care what you think anyway...

[Hittman]

Losers usually refer to people who make choices they disagree with as “victims.” If I choose to enjoy a fine cigar, I’m a victim of the tobacco industry. If I eat to much and get fat, it’s not my fault, I’m a victim of the fast food industry. If I drink, then I’m a victim of the evil . . . and so on.

This evening I’ll be meeting up with some good friends I haven’t seen in a while for cigars, steak and beer. It will be a blast. Far more than you’ll ever have with tofu and sun tea.

So you go ahead and continue to feel good about yourself for not doing things. Look down on people who do things you can’t/won’t/don’t have the guts to do. Feel proud about accomplishments that are nothing close to real accomplishments. Meanwhile, those of us who have done things in our lives will be enjoying ourselves far more than you can even imagine.

[Chuck_Justice]

Losers usually refer to people who make choices they disagree with as “victims.” If I choose to enjoy a fine cigar, I’m a victim of the tobacco industry. If I eat to much and get fat, it’s not my fault, I’m a victim of the fast food industry. If I drink, then I’m a victim of the evil . . . and so on.

This evening I’ll be meeting up with some good friends I haven’t seen in a while for cigars, steak and beer. It will be a blast. Far more than you’ll ever have with tofu and sun tea.

So you go ahead and continue to feel good about yourself for not doing things. Look down on people who do things you can’t/won’t/don’t have the guts to do. Feel proud about accomplishments that are nothing close to real accomplishments. Meanwhile, those of us who have done things in our lives will be enjoying ourselves far more than you can even imagine.

Well said Hittman, I like your style....


Chuck Justice

[mental-escher]

This evening I’ll be meeting up with some good friends I haven’t seen in a while for cigars, steak and beer. It will be a blast. Far more than you’ll ever have with tofu and sun tea.

Ummm- sounds like you've never had the special, for friends only, "Haight-Ashbury" tofu and tea before! More fun that a Mendocino brownie party!! ...and the colors...

[bazookajoeshow]

My biggest gripe with pride is that my leather chaps make my legs all sweatey. Oh, wait, you're not talking about Gay Pride?

Bazooka Joe

[pwfenton]

At the risk of violating custom, I’m going to get back to the intent of the thread.

My biggest gripe with pride is people who are proud of things they have nothing to do with. “I’m proud to be black/Hispanic/Irish/Italian/whatever.” Really? What did you do to become one? Being proud of the heritage of your ancestors is almost as ridiculous.

Dayum... that is a bizarre remark.

If you are part of a team, and a team member wins a competition, you can't be proud of that member's accomplishment?

Can I be proud of my daughter? Can I be proud of my father? Can I be proud of my Grandfather? Why can't I be proud of my whole family tree? If I can trace my family back to a signer of the Declaration of Independence... why wouldn't I be proud?

I'm proud of every one of those things, and I find it bizarre that you would find fault with that. You don't understand the concept of being proud of an associate's accomplishments?

You must be very lonely.

[Hittman]

I’m just saying I find it bizarre that many people’s biggest (and sometimes sole) source of pride is things they have nothing to do with.

If I can trace my family back to a signer of the Declaration of Independence... why wouldn't I be proud?

Because you had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Kids, of course, are a different story. If you raise kids who turn out to be decent people, that’s a big accomplishment. It’s not easy, takes nearly two decades of hard work, an obnoxious amount of money, and a very significant amount of your time. You have every right to be proud.

Likewise, if your kids have great kids, it’s at least partly because of the your parenting skills and the values they learned from you. Be proud, because you were part of it.

I didn’t say anything about teamwork. If you’re part of a team, and someone in the team excels, at least part of that is because of your effort and/or support. When one of my actors does brilliant Improv, they’re combing their personal talent with some of the training I’ve given them (not to mention providing a troupe and a venue) and I feel rightfully proud. It’s their accomplishment, but I was part of it.

On the flip side, couch potatoes who are proud that “their” team won are a joke. They had nothing to do with it.

Lonely? Hell, I don't have enough time to hang out with all my friends.

[erynlynn]

Losers usually refer to people who make choices they disagree with as “victims.” If I choose to enjoy a fine cigar, I’m a victim of the tobacco industry. If I eat to much and get fat, it’s not my fault, I’m a victim of the fast food industry. If I drink, then I’m a victim of the evil . . . and so on.

This evening I’ll be meeting up with some good friends I haven’t seen in a while for cigars, steak and beer. It will be a blast. Far more than you’ll ever have with tofu and sun tea.

So you go ahead and continue to feel good about yourself for not doing things. Look down on people who do things you can’t/won’t/don’t have the guts to do. Feel proud about accomplishments that are nothing close to real accomplishments. Meanwhile, those of us who have done things in our lives will be enjoying ourselves far more than you can even imagine.

well if you think i'm a loser, like i said before, i could care less.

i never said anyone was a victim. i don't care if you get drunk, fat, n stupid cause you're not me...

i will continue to feel good about not doing things that i feel aren't worth my time...to each their own you dumb ****...for me...i like being me...just the way i am...

i'll look down on whoever the frick i feel like...and i can, will, and do have the guts to do whatever i feel like ****in doin...

again, i don't have anythin to prove to you as far as my accomplishments in my life cause you mean nothin to me...and for those of you who have done things in your lives...congrats to you too...cause i enjoy doing what i do very much...

i'm quite content actually...

n if none of this makes any sense to you idiots...whatever, i don't care, it's late, i'm ****in tired...i basically came on here to dick around before i start my studies...

[tipsychicks]

i was thinking about this thread today because i got an essay that i wrote for one of my classes back from my instructor...an "A" of course...and my instructor wrote that my "honest, quietly modest voice" was one of my "greatest strengths." as soon as i read this, i felt a rush of pride and called up darlisha bragging about how modest i was in my writing.

of course, i felt the irony - and i felt guilty. i am waiting for my pride to fade from that initial sense of exhilaration into healthy self-esteem, as hittman says. i've never had healthy self-esteem and i'm excited to see what it's like.

[kinkysex]

We all have it. And we've all had to swallow it a few times in our lives. A friend recently CB'd me from dating her friend because of pride. I hate being CB'd.

Let me know what you think, for next week's show:

Well, I hope you've learned you lesson. :roll: