Don't you hate people with too much free time?

[kickasspodcast]

I do.

[audiocollective]

I do.
I know exactly what you mean. Maybe the best thing to do is just ignore them.

[jeffbearer]

That's what you get for feeding a troll.

[comedy4cast]

Maybe the best thing to do is just ignore them.

Let's all try to keep that thought in mind.

[kickasspodcast]

I don't think there is anything you can do
to encourage that kinda behavior, nor can it
be stopped if someone like Mike decides not
to take his meds ands looses it.


Jack B.


Glad I got SS's of it all.

[Version3]

I don't think there is anything you can do
to encourage that kinda behavior

Without encouragement, there are just people that seek out negative attention and call it entertainment. I guess they don't understand that no amount of treating other people poorly will win back daddy's love, or fix whatever other mental baggage they are lugging around.


Glad I got SS's of it all.

Why is that?

[kickasspodcast]

No version 3, you were gone the entire time.
When there should have been a mod on to
stop this guy from libeling the entire podosphere
there wasn't. He asked to be banned when mods
were on, nobody took him seriously.

I got SS's because it was kinda a freakish event,
all of the sudden you see dozens and dozens of posts
by one guy all libeling someone or another. 2, because
I get SS's of lotsa stuff that I know will be deleted. Not
to mention how funny it was watching his adolescent
creativity dwindle to the point where he was simply
picking advertisements and attempting to make fun
of them. It was totally illustrative of Mike's overall
personality. Did anyone else grab SS's? If I didn't-
the world would all forget and then we couldn't

a: laugh about it later
b: make fun of someone with it later

ok?

How about the next time a known jackass like Mike
begs to be banned, you just ban him. 100's of
people witnessed the scandelously juvenile rampage
that was last evening on PCA. I would be remissed
not to have taken SS's for documention. Version 3
I think you argue too much for a mod. You pick
fights with lotsa people, and if you don't start them
you completely join hands in the tango. It ain't
my forum but, it seems that the bar that mods live
up to should be a bit higher than the rest.

If you wanna razz someone about 'winning back daddy's
love'. Maybe you shouldn't be a mod. That doesn't seem
like something a mod would say and that's just 1 example
in this thread. Theres lots other. Just a suggestion though ok?


Jack B.

For everybody sleeping away the insanity here's a taste
http://kickasspodcast.com/mikesrampage.jpg

[jeffoest]

Yep - I must have been sleeping as well. Didn't see any of them. Looks like Ferf cleaned it up. Thanks Ferf!

[Version3]

I've been moderating for some years... I think I've got a handle on it, but thanks for the info. Typically the only people that find me 'too confrontational' are the trouble makers, but that varies from place to place, and situation to situation. Remember, I'm not here to 'run the forum' nor do I claim/want to. I'm here to help out with a few things that need to be done, and typically that is just to be eyes and ears, and on occasion to handle a simple task. My level or involvement here does not require me to make enough judgment calls to vanilla down my personality to what you ask. If that were the case, I'd have a different profile for moderating.

I think you missed the point of my 'why' question, but I get the general idea. I wouldn't assume that nobody else got what was needed before action was taken.

As far as the advice about what to do about the situation, I don't have the ability to do what you suggest, so whether I would, or think I should wouldn't even come into play.

[kickasspodcast]

I've been moderating for some years... I think I've got a handle on it, but thanks for the info.
I love it when people say that... as if it means anything "I've been moderating for years" Really? PCA hasn't been up for years, wouldn't you need to apply different methods for different forums based on the rules?

Typically the only people that find me 'too confrontational' are the trouble makers, but that varies from place to place, and situation to situation.
Thanks for callings us fine users trouble makers, another clear line in the sand.

Remember, I'm not here to 'run the forum' nor do I claim/want to. I'm here to help out with a few things that need to be done, and typically that is just to be eyes and ears, and on occasion to handle a simple task.

Nobody suggested you run the forum. As a mod you do what your instructed and your judgement is trusted. BTW- Your Eyes and Ears could have been helpful last night for about an hour. Any Mod's Eyes for that matter.

My level or involvement here does not require me to make enough judgment calls to vanilla down my personality to what you ask. If that were the case, I'd have a different profile for moderating.
Lol- OK man... its about not calling people "trouble makers" and not blatantly ignoring the very rules posted on these board.


I think you missed the point of my 'why' question, but I get the general idea. I wouldn't assume that nobody else got what was needed before action was taken.
Maybe I did miss the point of your "Why is that?" question, perhaps it was too wordy for me to understand. I think that freakishly random public acts of obnoxiousness should be documented by some of the users. There were 150+ unregistered users on last night during the whole stunt, all those people think very little of PCA right now.. is that good for anyone? Well, maybe the Pickle.

As far as the advice about what to do about the situation, I don't have the ability to do what you suggest, so whether I would, or think I should wouldn't even come into play.
So we get that you can't ban people, no prob, I understand that completely. I am just saying that if you know someone like mike is just begging to be banned, one can't exactly suggest that he would have to get "Kicked off" in order to be removed.

Look Vers3. I have no beef with you man. Let me make that clear, its just that last night did happen and people will talk about it. You know this, we all do. Its those 150 people who think PCA is a total sick joke that i'm thinking about. How many will never come back? I just think that if you wanna be a mod you have to be **** good at making a great case in your debates WITHOUT pissing people off. Craig was the best at this, I think we
all agree. Every mod has their own style.. the "I've been moderating for some years... I think I've got a handle on it..." is obviously your style. But you have to know that borders on arrogance and confidence right?

I am all good with the insanity. The best forums I know of have virtually no moderation at all. But they don't have so many rules either... its the consistancy that maybe could be addressed. If I were a mod I wouldn't do anything unless it was well.. what Mike did last night.... but like Cops, there's never a Mod when you need one.

Jack B.

[Version3]

I'll play Jack's little debate game one post deep... but I'm already bored with it, so don't expect much from me on the subject.


I love it when people say that... as if it means anything "I've been moderating for years" Really? PCA hasn't been up for years, wouldn't you need to apply different methods for different forums based on the rules?

It simply means I'm not a newbie. Many people say it in the context of telling others how they ought to be doing their mod job. I only mention it to quell the experience discussion.

Yep, every forum takes slightly different approaches to help enforce any policies and help it's users, and every moderator has their own variation on how they do their job. I've seen your debates a lot on this forum, and you only want people to be flexible to your idea of how things should be, and never you to theirs. Every forum, and every moderator is different.


Thanks for callings us fine users trouble makers, another clear line in the sand.

I've gotten used to the fact that you'll take whatever you want from a discussion, and completely ignore the rest. The word typically is a qualifier that means in the majority of instances this discussion has come up. If you can really make that into a clear line, then you have a very broad brush and thin selection of colors with which to color your world, and that's just sad. I labeled nobody a trouble maker.. I've seen enough discussions to know that 1) I can easily see who needlessly stirs up trouble in this forum and 2) I can see who other users repeatedly label as a 'trouble maker'. Both of these remove any need for me to point fingers.

[/quote]


Nobody suggested you run the forum. As a mod you do what your instructed and your judgement is trusted. BTW- Your Eyes and Ears could have been helpful last night for about an hour. Any Mod's Eyes for that matter.


I'll just stop sleeping, or hey I know... I'll PM everyone on the forum with my cell number and you can just keep me on call 24/7. Does that meet your approval?

Moderators are not present all of the time, and with only a few, there ARE going to be stretches of nobody being available. Unless you and everyone are going to pay for forums like this, to afford them a budget to pay for 24/7 moderator services, you'll just have to pocket that issue and live with it. It's just a fact of a huge free community.



Lol- OK man... its about not calling people "trouble makers" and not blatantly ignoring the very rules posted on these board.



And where exactly did I do that? I posted nothing inflammatory, and rarely call anyone else on doing it when it happens.

As far as my daddy love comment, if you are gonna attempt to call that inflammatory, how would you describe the fact that there just simply are people that feel the need to piss people off? The need to dominate others, push people around or just stir crap up develop these needs from somewhere... I simply mad a general statement, with an example for a so-called explanation. The message is that there are people that just crave the attention, and they don't always need encouragement to act. Maybe not trying so hard to take more than black and white text from everyone's post will avoid some confusion?


Maybe I did miss the point of your "Why is that?" question, perhaps it was too wordy for me to understand.

Maybe, was it?
I think that freakishly random public acts of obnoxiousness should be documented by some of the users.

I've noticed that you think that... and I simply asked a question out of curiosity. Maybe you'd be involved in less debates if you asked people what they mean by stuff, instead of jumping in the middle of them with posts flying. You have a history of these debates here, and I have nothing to do with that.

There were 150+ unregistered users on last night during the whole stunt, all those people think very little of PCA right now.. is that good for anyone? Well, maybe the Pickle.


I missed the part where 150 PCA users elected Jack from the "kickasspodcast" as their spokesperson. I believe that you speak for you, but you really should quit making a habit of stating what 'the users' want or feel. You don't know, you just simply assume. Maybe you even know what 2 or 3 of your friends here think... but I don't think you personally embody the thoughts and feelings of those 150 people... so you shouldn't claim to be in touch with how they feel about last night's situation. There are a lot of people here that find these events entertaining... it may not be right, but this place didn't get this fierce because everyone hates it.

So we get that you can't ban people, no prob, I understand that completely. I am just saying that if you know someone like mike is just begging to be banned, one can't exactly suggest that he would have to get "Kicked off" in order to be removed.

But your post indicated that you do think I should have. You don't know what my message to Chris said about the situation, and you never asked me where I stand on last night's stunt. You made an assumption because he wasn't removed... and it was wrong. Just ask man, I'll tell you. But don't assume things and try to paint me with that broad brush of yours. I'm thick skinned enough to not cry about it, but I'm not going to be colored as anyone other than who I am. It's just a simple truth.

Look Vers3. I have no beef with you man. Let me make that clear, its just that last night did happen and people will talk about it. You know this, we all do. Its those 150 people who think PCA is a total sick joke that i'm thinking about. How many will never come back?


that's an interesting question Jack. How many people have 'left' and still come here? You want to know how many people will be back... I say well more than half will be online at the same time again tonight. The people who don't hate this place, love to hate this place and still come here. You included.

Just because PCA kicked a pedophile podcast does not mean this environment will change overnight. It's been very user run as far as mood and dynamics... that is how PCA got how it is, not from Adam Curry, Podshow or anything else. Instead of pointing fingers at the easy targets, people should quit trying to make this political, or debate alley. Not just the Admins or Podshow, the MEMBERS should care enough.


I just think that if you wanna be a mod you have to be **** good at making a great case in your debates WITHOUT pissing people off. Craig was the best at this, I think we all agree.


There you go speaking for everyone again. I think Craig is a GREAT guy. But I can name 5 previously active and pretty well respected podcasters that were very happy to see him go. You don't know what everyone did, and Craig pissed several people off. The Mod jobs just does it. The unwilling recipient of a Mod duty will likely not agree, and the people that need to stir up crap about it won't either. It happened plenty before, and it will happen again. But you don't speak for everyone on this, you really should quit assuming you are that 'in tune' with the PCA posting world. Have you talked to everyone that sits there quietly never speaking their mind? Nope. You do best talking people that agree with your point of view, then you call it everyone, most or all. It's very misleading.


Every mod has their own style.. the "I've been moderating for some years... I think I've got a handle on it..." is obviously your style. But you have to know that borders on arrogance and confidence right?


Interesting that you decide to recognize that point when it suits you. My style is my style. If you are unhappy with it, Podcast Alley encourages you to let them know. However, that response was tailored just for you, you were fishing for it anyway.



I am all good with the insanity. The best forums I know of have virtually no moderation at all. But they don't have so many rules either... its the consistancy that maybe could be addressed. If I were a mod I wouldn't do anything unless it was well.. what Mike did last night.... but like Cops, there's never a Mod when you need one.

Jack B.

Most forums on this planet are interest oriented... the broader the subject of their common tie, the broader the scope of personalities. The broader the scope of personalities, the more that the body needs help keeping things civil. Anarchy simply does not work. However, if you get enough like minded individuals in one place, it will run pretty smoothly with no help. That simply does not include PCA. It was tried with little to no rules, and it didn't work. It was tried with guidelines that were not enforced, and even more people were unhappy. You, Jack, want rules when they serve you, and curse them when they oppose your views. You can't possibly be blind to the problems this creates.

Well, like I said, I stated what I felt like I needed to, in as clear a fashion as I could while doing my job. You'll pull a few things you like out, and throw away the rest, but I'm more concerned about being able to say what I think I needed to say to those quietly reading, than I am about ever trying to sell you on why what I do works for me. You'll never agree with me anyone, and insanity would be watching me even attempt it.

[The Truth]

No version 3, you were gone the entire time.
...balh balh balhdiddy blah...

Wow.

[yaz]

****, i thought i was bad, there is way too much to read in there and i don't have the patience, ill just have to ask jack out in cali about it, ahhh...three days...looking foward to it...

btw...check out my new "big signature"...like you can avoid it...

[kickasspodcast]

****, i thought i was bad, there is way too much to read in there and i don't have the patience, ill just have to ask jack out in cali about it, ahhh...three days...looking foward to it...

btw...check out my new "big signature"...like you can avoid it...

That is the greatest forum sig yet... bigger though for sure..

[The Truth]

Jack B pwned by Version 3.

[Hittman]

I love it when people say that... as if it means anything "I've been moderating for years" Really? PCA hasn't been up for years, wouldn't you need to apply different methods for different forums based on the rules?

I moderated one of the first multi-line tech support BBSs in the country for years. I moderated forums on Genie and Compuserve for years. I ran a 21 line BBS out of my home for years.

Yes, Jack, it is possible for someone to have moderation experience elsewhere. Duh.

[yaz]

people with too much time suck...

[Fueled By Beer Radio]

people with too much time suck...

Yeah! And people with really big sigs, RULE!!!

[yaz]

holy fukkin shite, im gonna have to work on mine when i get back to nj...