podcastpickle mod Says I Must Stop Bein cynical & Sarcas

[youngblood]

hello all,

the following is a private message i just got from podcasting pickle moderator docsnavely
(of the josh in japan podcast).


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private message recieved edited until lawyer consulted.
sorry for the inconvience....
....this just in:
"put it up for all to see, i don't care. i know what i said, and i trust that you will post it in it's entirety and unedited if you honestly care that much...."

he agreed in written form, my atty. says thats about as good as your going to get, so here it is....

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please quit with the synical sarcasm! it's really starting to get annoying! i understand that all you're trying to do is get a reaction, but i'm letting you know now, that if you're just here to troll and start sh[**] with other posters, it will not be tolerated....


i'm fair, and if this is a simple misunderstanding, please let me know now. i don't want to have to be an a[**]hole, but i think i know what kind of path your postings are trying to go down....
docsnavely


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the following was my response:

dude, i am a cynical sarcastic guy. the people i'm being sarcastic to are
supposed to find it annoying....i'm being sarcastic to them b/c i find them
annoying!

i am on my best behavior here and at the podcast alley.

if i was here to just start sh[**] with other posters, you would def. know it.
the last place i did that, i got death threats...i learned my lesson.

im just expressing my self in the most un-offensive way that i can.

by nature i am a provacateur. i'm curbing that nature as best as i can
to suit the delicate sensabllities of the 'community'.

so, i cant cuss or make fun of podshow inc. products at podcast alley and
here i cant be 'cynical and sarcastic', least i 'annoy' a moderator.

atleast podshow inc.'s policy's i can understand. i can see why they take down posts that rag on podshow incs. products, they have a bizness to run...a
noble cause i totally understand and support. i'd do the same if i were them.

but what is podcastpickle's policy? to not 'annoy' the all mighty moderators
with cynical sarcasm? censoring for a profit is far better than censoring b/c
someone doesnt want to be annoyed.


i'd rather deal with podcastalley's censoring in the name of capitalism than
podcast pickle's censoring in the name of fascism any day.

and i know you are going to blacklist me from the pickle b/c i stood up to your
harrasment.

that sux for me as a podcaster but i will not be bullied to stop being sarcastic.

-youngblood

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what do yall think of this?

the slap on the wrist i got from the podcast alley moderator basicly just
said dont be rude and dont cuss. very professional (a good thing since he
is!)

it was much more professional than the podcastpickle guy, docsnavley email
to me felt like harrasment from an insecure and childish guuy on a power
trip.

but whatever, i just have my MA in psych. perhaps if i had my Doctorate i
could figure him out....

but, i'm switching back to podcastalley.

id rather not be able to cuss and not be able to make fun of podshow inc. products
than not be able to 'annoy' some childish-immature guy on a power trip.

in short: id rather deal with CHAIRMAN CURRY than the PODCAST PICKLE
GANG OF FOUR, any day!

[can anyone tell that i'm reading a book about the chinese cultural revolution?]

i'd rather post on a message board with rules that make sense (ie: whatever helps the bottom line) than on a board with rules that are dictated by the personal
whims of power tripping ego maniacs.

this type of thing just confirms my belif in free market capitialism and bizness.

a board run by a company is ultimatley going to be much freer than a board run by a bunch of individuals with 'idealistic' motives.

oh, how quickly idealisim turns to facsism....


and btw, the sarcasitc cynical posts that annoyed him are as follows:

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thats right youngman! cussing is not allowed!!

one more cuss word out of you on this forum and i will have to send you to detention!!

the podcasting community is one of pupy dogs and pistol lillies!!

and dont forget furry little kittens!!

nd dont forget furry little kittens!!

happy emoticons only!

got it youngman?

hope so, cuz i sure dont.
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pistol lilies, sunshine and puppy dogs (3 diff. times

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i think the future of video podcasting is full of pistol lilies, sunshine and puppy dogs.

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i guess...as they say...'the tribe has spoken'....the podcasting community is a place of pistol lillys and puppy dogs.

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do yall think the above posts warrent the response i got from josh in japan's
docsnavley-the podcastpickle moderator?

[unknownsoldier]

Not sure what country you live in, but in mine its a violation of privacy laws to publish what you just did in a public forum. Perhaps there is a reason why some countries have these laws?

[Patrick]

Not sure what country you live in, but in mine its a violation of privacy laws to publish what you just did in a public forum. Perhaps there is a reason why some countries have these laws?

Are you kidding me? Get real. It's like getting a letter in the mail. It's yours. You can do anything you want with it.

Second, that Josh guy is a giant **** anyway. Who cares.

[kcrockett]

I second that. I couldn't begin to count how many times I have seen posts like that on here anyways. Someone making a PM they recieved public.

[youngblood]

Not sure what country you live in, but in mine its a violation of privacy laws to publish what you just did in a public forum. Perhaps there is a reason why some countries have these laws?


emmm, not sure if in my country its legal..ill edit the thing and consult my
lawyer....

what repressive and facsist country do you live in anyway?

[OuterLimits]

We had our first run-in with the kosher pickle crowd.

Consider yourself lucky to have gotten a 'warning'. In our case we were banned without notice, our threads disappeared and our comments on other threads -- as well as the responses to those comments -- were deleted.

When I think of a cynic I think of a philospher. I think of a higher soul. One that has discarded superfluous ideas and rules. So to be called a 'cynic' by the herdfolk is about as close as they can get to a compliment.

That the word 'cynic' has largely negative connotations shows that most people don't want to have their worldview challenged. They want to believe good things about themselves. And not being philosphers, they aren't bettered by criticism, but deeply offended and hurt by it.

In their daily lives they avoid people who disagree with themselves and migrate towards 'like-thinking' cliques. In cyberspace they're able to take the bull by the horns and 'deep-six' anything or anyone they find offensive and as you witnessed with 'pistol lillies' the sky's the limit. To label this 'fascism' is to be very unfair to Mussolini.

As for our treatment by Curry, it is disappointing that he caved into joo blackmail and is censoring podcasts from his directory. This only means that his will not be 'the' definitive directory, but someone who isn't afraid of content or podcasters. We are already seeing yahoo and google get into the game.

As for the alley behind podcasting, he has left this forum relatively free, so maybe it will continue to be a useful resource. Who knows? It's all about whims these days...

Cheers,
:)

[youngblood]

Not sure what country you live in, but in mine its a violation of privacy laws to publish what you just did in a public forum. Perhaps there is a reason why some countries have these laws?

Are you kidding me? Get real. It's like getting a letter in the mail. It's yours. You can do anything you want with it.

Second, that Josh guy is a giant **** anyway. Who cares.

ill keep it out until my attorney tells me what the law says. but i think youre
right.

my lawyer includes the following in his emails:

THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL TRANSMITTAL IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL USE OF THE DESIGNATED RECIPIENTS NAMED ABOVE AND SHALL NOT BE ADMISSIBLE IN ANY COURT WITHOUT THE PRIOR EXPRESS WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE TRANSMITTER.

Since this transmittal may be a confidential attorney/client communication
or may otherwise be privileged and confidential, if the reader of this
transmittal is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you
have received this transmittal in error, and that any review, dissemination,
distribution or copying of the transmittal is strictly prohibited. If you
have received this in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (call
us collect at XXXXXXXXX. Thank you.

and i think since he didnt include one of those then i'm doing nothing legally 'wrong'.

and i'm not even sure if the above 'disclaimer' will really keep an email
out of court...a 'disclaimer' might be just a deterent, but thats all.

[podcastrant.com]

I would hate to meet the voices in this guy's head in a dark alley.

[kcrockett]

Don't worry man your doing nothing wrong

[youngblood]

Don't worry man your doing nothing wrong


thanks for the supprt dude. i know i'm doing nothing wrong, but with the law,
you never know..

looks like ive gotten locked out from the forum over there so ill just post my
response to p. dilly (the moderator) here.

p. dilly's comments are designatted with ">"

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>I am confused?

>You come to this board and do what I would consider whinning. That is what I would call it if >my kids were doing what you are doing.


ok, so i'm a whinner....is that not allowyed on this forum as well as sarcasm and
cynicsim?


>Then when some one send you a personal messeage instead of trying to call you on it in >public, instead of answering, you make their personal message public.


i answered privately and answered in public. i think he thought i would be embarrsed, and
instead i made the whole thing public b/c i'm not. i think he should be the one who is
embarrsed. the private message he sent me was immature and harresment. he was
trying to bully me to act like he wanted.

>Then when other people on the forum disagree with you, and agree with josh, you talk about >attorneys and legalities.

i did that b/c someone on podcastalley said i violated laws in their country by posting
docsnavley's PM....so i took it down until i hear back from my atty. and/or docsnavely
says i can post it.


>The thing is all this is going on because we said you could use curse words, but would prefer >you did not.

yeah. and i thought that was silly. so i just tried to bring that precieved 'silliness' to the
fore.


>It seems like you think you are the king of causing trouble.

i honestly didnt set out to cause trouble, quite the opposite, thats the hell of it. i have done
that on boards in the past...one time i almost got kicked out of grad school and had
death threats against me when i conciously tried to cause trouble....b/c of that, and b/c
i dont want to get kicked off this forum or burn bridges, ive been trying to be on my
best behavior...but when is see what i precieve to be stupidity i just can't hold my
tounge...so the least rude, offensive thing i could post was the thing about the
'puppy dogs'....sarcasitc yes, annoying maybe, but certainly not offensive or 'flaming' so
thats why i decide it was the best alternative in my self expression.

but, it honestly seems like i, indeed, am the king of causing trouble. and i honestly
dont even mean too in this instance...i'm trying to be low key but still express my self.

i was just posting three words and some emoticons...and then a moderator harresses me
and bullies me.


> I agree with Josh , you were getting annoying. I personally would not of used the same > words he did. Thats not my style.

yeah. the main thing i found offensive, immature and bullying were those words you
say you wouldnt use. and that is a big reason i 1st posted the PM in the public forum.

so, you found me annoying? maybe thats because i'm an annoying guy? does the podcasting
community not have room for annoying people? if youre annoying, you are kicked out?

i'm not flamming anybody. i was just talking about 'pistol lillies and puppy dogs.


> What is you agenda?

to have fun, to express myself in the podcating community, to attract like minds who might
enjoy my show, to pass time, to put meaning in a meaningless existence, to be silly,
to try and be funny, to point out stupidity, to show how smart i am, probably the same
'agenda' as everybody has...its just that everybody's agenda is expressed differently.



>To cause trouble?

>To piss people off?


like i said, i'm not trying to do that...last time i did that i got death threats and was
almost kicked outof graduate school.


> or to just annoy the hell out of people?

i'm not trying to annoy anybody, per se. but if my posts annoy people i find annoying then
so be it.


> I think to make a private message public instead of just responding shows a lot about your > style to me.


yes it does. that was also part of the point. you dont like my style. but does that mean i cant
post here?

and docsnavley's style was apparent to me in his mean spirited PM to me.


>As I said I am confused as to what your problem is. I assume you are mad because there is >not a lot of figting here.

i'm not mad or angry at anything...i've explained this in another post in this thread.
and i've explained what my 'problem' with the podcasting community discourse in
another post in this thread.


>I like it that way, and hope to keep it that way.


i wasn't fighting w/ anybody. i was just making posts about pistol lillies and kittens.

how is that fighting? looks like your fellow moderator was 'fighitng' with me when he
made a mean spirited, bullying PM.

you dont want fighting and cussing. fine, i'm following those rules.

are the rules also to not be 'annoying', cynical, sarcastic, and a whinner?

if so, i'll follow those rules too.

[coreytronic]

Puppies are neat! Kitties are fluffy and I just want to hug them all day.
Yay I love rainbows!! Yay Koala Bears and lollipops!!
This appears to be the current level of acceptable discourse in the "community".

[irobeth]

aparently the level of acceptable discourse in the community involves running to the 'other' directory to whine when a directory offends you.

Your probelms aren't with Podcast Alley, so I don't see much of a reason for you to bring them over here. Likewise, your problems aren't with the users of Podcast Pickle, so there isn't much of a reason to make a public post about a private concern.

Podcast Pickle doesn't support Podcast Alley hate-talk, and I'd hope PCA stands up for the same policy.

[podcastrant.com]

Just like last week when he was over at the pickle whining about the alley.

I'm sensing a pattern here.

[jimk]

I have to admit, I don't really get what the conflict is here.

Oh, and there's that not caring part too.

[podcastrant.com]

I think that's what everyone is trying to find out.

Bring a machete/high boots it's going to get thick.

[irobeth]

I have to admit, I don't really get what the conflict is here.

Oh, and there's that not caring part too.

someone had their pride hurt by a private message, and the damage is spilling out into public view?

[Hittman]

I think we can sum up Youngblood’s whining on both this forum and over at The Pickle (the only place it belongs (and even that's debatable)) with just three words, repeated several times.

Look at me! Look at ME!

Look!

Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[coreytronic]

This madness for the "Pickle" reminds me of when masses of people who spent their whole day there and wrote love songs in tribute to it, suddenly decided that Friendster was total rubbish and jumped over to Myspace.
I see most of the same names on other podcast boards so what's the big deal?

[Concerned Listener]

I think YOUNGBLOOD is a hick.

A white trash gentleman.

[docsnavely]

Second, that Josh guy is a giant **** anyway. Who cares.

thanks patrick. that's awfully nice of you.

i'm glad that you regard my phalus as being so large!

maybe one of these days i can aspire to be a porn star!

(if you folks looking for somewhere peaceful to discuss podcasting, I suggest visiting http://www.podcastpickle.com)

have fun over here youngblood. just know that you're more than welcome to return to the pickle anytime if you want. the lockout from gary (as he announced in a public apology thread just for you) was purely accidntal, and has been reversed. he just clicked on the wrong button.

josh

[youngblood]

I have to admit, I don't really get what the conflict is here.

Oh, and there's that not caring part too.

someone had their pride hurt by a private message, and the damage is spilling out into public view?

yes, my pride was hurt by the guy who does the josh in japan podcast,
he is the moderator of podcastpickle and a witty and inteligent guy.

his podcast is topnotch...the show where he tells you how to buy grocries in
japan was mind blowing!

i was just hopeing for a shoulder to cry on here iat the alley.

[youngblood]

I think YOUNGBLOOD is a hick.

A white trash gentleman.


hey, i resemble that remark.

that shotgun in the avatar is how i get my food.

we keep it real down here in the south.

[youngblood]

I think we can sum up Youngblood’s whining on both this forum and over at The Pickle (the only place it belongs (and even that's debatable)) with just three words, repeated several times.

Look at me! Look at ME!

Look!

Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEE!


cant that be said for everyone on the pickle and alley?

and besides, your the one w/ the huge advert. banner, not me.

and why are you obssesd with me hitman?

writing me harraseing PMs and stuff.....do you have a man crush on me?

[youngblood]

This madness for the "Pickle" reminds me of when masses of people who spent their whole day there and wrote love songs in tribute to it, suddenly decided that Friendster was total rubbish and jumped over to Myspace.
I see most of the same names on other podcast boards so what's the big deal?


yeah, i thought they would allow the discrouse to be freer over there but turns
out they are more oppressive than the alley ever thought abut being.

alley's still the best.

i was caught up in the podcast pickle is cool hysteria myself. but those guys are
repressive and restrictive.

all i was doing was posting aobut puppy dogs and pistol liilies and took an
immature and unprofessional PM from a moderator publlic to show their
bog-osity. (ie: how bogus they were).

the touchiness of the 'community' can not be understated.

[youngblood]

[quote=Patrick]

(if you folks looking for somewhere peaceful to discuss podcasting, I suggest visiting http://www.podcastpickle.com)

have fun over here youngblood. just know that you're more than welcome to return to the pickle anytime if you want. the lockout from gary (as he announced in a public apology thread just for you) was purely accidntal, and has been reversed. he just clicked on the wrong button.

josh


a 'peaceful' place to discuss podcasts = a place where no meaningful discourse
will occur and we will only say nice and happy things about each others
podcasts.

and thanks for the invite back to the pickle...ill come on back. ill keep posting
and try and abide by the rules....however the rules seem to be vague and based
on the individual whims of a few touchy individuals.

i saw that you guys didnt want cussing so i wasnt cussing, just talking about
kittens and puppy dogs. and then you bullied me to stop doing that.
hard to tell what you guys want and dont want.

no sarcasam, no cynicsim, no cussing...sounds real peaceful... just like in 1984.

purely an 'accident'- nice spin...

and dude, i contacted my lawyer b/c i orginally posted your PM and some
dude here said it was illegal in his country.

so wehn i hear back from my lawyer on as to whether or not it is 'legal' or
not (i think its legal) ill either put the PM back up or leave it off.
however, if you just say i can post it in a public forum then it doesnt matter
what the law offically says. so can i?


i thought it prudent to take off b/c judging fomr your PM you didnt seem like
a very reasonalbe person, IMHO, and you seemed like the kind of person
to file a frivoulous lawsuit.

and please notice how other users at pickle are rude to me...thats fine w/ me but
is bogus if i can't defend my self in return.

[youngblood]

In their daily lives they avoid people who disagree with themselves and migrate towards 'like-thinking' cliques. In cyberspace they're able to take the bull by the horns and 'deep-six' anything or anyone they find offensive and as you witnessed with 'pistol lillies' the sky's the limit. To label this 'fascism' is to be very unfair to Mussolini.

Cheers,
:)

when i say this behavior is evidence of 'fascism' i am not reffering to the politial
party of mussolini.

i am reffering to the 'fascist' personality type that psychologists such as
w. reich talked about.

& i wanted to say that while, i disagree w/ your racsist phil. regarding certain groups of people.... i must say, you are all kind of hot!

ever think of a soccergirl-esque podcast?

[youngblood]

Puppies are neat! Kitties are fluffy and I just want to hug them all day.
Yay I love rainbows!! Yay Koala Bears and lollipops!!
This appears to be the current level of acceptable discourse in the "community".

here is my new theory as to why, what do yall think?

and i think ive finally figured out what the motivation of that 'restrictive and repressive' discourse is....i think people are unconsciously trying to put a chill on free and open discrouse in the podcasting community b/c they know that if discourse was free and open then said discourse would quickly turn to personal thoughts on individual podcasts....

and individual podcasts are merely the outward mainfestation of ones own inner being. when somebody podcasts they are putting their individual personality out on display for everyone to see.

if discourse were allowed to be free and open in the podcasting 'community' people would have to be willing to put their inner most beings on the line....they would have to open- the most delicate parts of themselves - to criticsim, ridicule, embaresmment, and scorn.


i'm secure enough with my inner most being, personality and hence my podcast to let discourse in the community be free...b/c i'm not scared of what anyone has to say about my podcast.

others are not so they try and put a chill on discourse...and this is a type of facisim.

all that is allowed is happy talk and mutual intellectual masterbation....any one who steps out of line is quickly put in line by the social mores of the 'community' or by the moderator.

[youngblood]

aparently the level of acceptable discourse in the community involves running to the 'other' directory to whine when a directory offends you.

Your probelms aren't with Podcast Alley, so I don't see much of a reason for you to bring them over here. Likewise, your problems aren't with the users of Podcast Pickle, so there isn't much of a reason to make a public post about a private concern.

Podcast Pickle doesn't support Podcast Alley hate-talk, and I'd hope PCA stands up for the same policy.


i had probs with the alley so posted them on yalls site b/c the alley would censor
them.

i had problems w/ yalls site so i posted them on the alley b/c i knew yall would
censor them.

and now i see that the alley is the best forum (even if we cant bash podshow inc
products like on podcastpickle).

i'm just excersing my freedoms as an american consumer.

and on a personal note, s.thing you might want to ponder, how are you going
to compete w/ podcast alley when you are more repressieve and restrictive
than them?

just seems like you have to watch your Ps and Qs on pickle , 1000% more than
you do over here at alley.

why is podcastpickle the best 'community'? b/c you dont allow goyfire
to post over there?

really, i dont know if that is a sound bizness starategy in becomeing the
'best' podcast community...or whatever yalls site says.

however, i wish you the best of luck.

[youngblood]

I have to admit, I don't really get what the conflict is here.

Oh, and there's that not caring part too.

i just dont get this whole 'i dont care about this post' response used in internet
message boards such as this.


b/c i mean, if you truely didnt care you wouldnt even taek the time to post or
even read the thread....

isnt it obvious that when someone says 'i dont care about this post' -that they
are really sayhing..

"i really care about this post but am finding it hard to contribute w/ an inteligent
reply, so i'll just say i dont care, in an effort to show how detached and cool
i am for being above caring about such petty things."

ive seen this on many boards such as this....just an internet pet peeve.

[youngblood]

Podcast Pickle doesn't support Podcast Alley hate-talk, and I'd hope PCA stands up for the same policy.


emmm, nice technique....you allow people to bash podcast alley on your forum
and then act like you dont when you come running over to alley when people bash pickle on their forum.


emm hmmm, yeah, i'm sure they'll stop podcast pickle bashing, when you guys
are trying to promote your selves as the 'alteranitive' to podcast alley... being
so much better and what not.

and fueling the flames over the whole goy fire thing so pople will be scared to
post over here.

emm hmm, yeah. and now you want them to stop me from pointing out
how lame podcst pickle is??


dont know if curry and the 17 million of air play strapped to his rump will
protect a competitor trying to steal listners away from him....and one who is trying to stir up anomosity toward his product....

eh, i just dont know if that is going to happen...

[docsnavely]

i saw that you guys didnt want cussing so i wasnt cussing, just talking about
kittens and puppy dogs. and then you bullied me to stop doing that.
hard to tell what you guys want and dont want.

i, I said there is nothing wrong with cussing. i informed you that we all use curse words to make a point about something we feel strongly about. i'm in the ****ing navy for God sakes, you think I don't "cuss like a sailor"? all i said was to use it only when needed, and not to just say it on whim cause you want.....


purely an 'accident'- nice spin...


see it as you wish....


and dude, i contacted my lawyer b/c i orginally posted your PM and some
dude here said it was illegal in his country.

so wehn i hear back from my lawyer on as to whether or not it is 'legal' or
not (i think its legal) ill either put the PM back up or leave it off.
however, if you just say i can post it in a public forum then it doesnt matter
what the law offically says. so can i?


i thought it prudent to take off b/c judging fomr your PM you didnt seem like
a very reasonalbe person, IMHO, and you seemed like the kind of person
to file a frivoulous lawsuit.

i'm a friggin E-5 in the navy with a wife and 2 kids. do you honestly think i have the time or money to worry about such a petty ****ing thing as a lawsuit? i'm too busy playing with the kids and making my podcast. put it up for all to see, i don't care. i know what i said, and i trust that you will post it in it's entirety and unedited if you honestly care that much....



and please notice how other users at pickle are rude to me...thats fine w/ me but
is bogus if i can't defend my self in return.

this is the exact reason i locked that thread over there. there was absolutely no reason for anyone to keep bashing you. we don't put up with personal attacks out in the threads over at the pickle. that's why you were warned when you tried going after me. and that's why i locked the thread when i saw the **** that you were taking from everyone over there.

josh[/b][/i]

[OuterLimits]

when i say this behavior is evidence of 'fascism' i am not reffering to the politial
party of mussolini.

i am reffering to the 'fascist' personality type that psychologists such as
w. reich talked about.


Dude, think of it as a sacred duty to stomp out misnomers whenever possible. 'Fascism' is a misnomer in the 'kwa. The Duce and the Futurists were something else entirely. As for Reich's credentials on 'authoritarianism' check this out:

Wilhelm Reich was born in Dobrzanica, a village near Lemberg, then part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, now in the Ukraine. His parents, Leon Reich, a prosperous farmer, and Cecilia Roniger, were Jewish. Shortly after his birth, the family moved south to a farm in Jujinetz, near Chernivtsi, Bukovina. He attributed his later interest in the study of sex and the biological basis of the emotions to his upbringing on his father's farm where, as he later put it, the "natural life functions" were never hidden from him. He was taught at home until he was 13 when his mother committed suicide after being discovered having an affair with Reich's tutor.

In 1940, Reich built boxes — orgone accumulators — to concentrate orgone energy in the atmosphere, some for lab animals, and some large enough for a human being to sit inside. He now believed orgone was a type of primordial cosmic energy, blue in color, which he claimed was omnipresent and responsible for such things as weather, the color of the sky, gravity, the formation of galaxies, and the biological expressions of emotion and sexuality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich



Cheers,
:o

[youngblood]

when i say this behavior is evidence of 'fascism' i am not reffering to the politial
party of mussolini.

i am reffering to the 'fascist' personality type that psychologists such as
w. reich talked about.


Dude, think of it as a sacred duty to stomp out misnomers whenever possible. 'Fascism' is a misnomer in the 'kwa. The Duce and the Futurists were something else entirely. As for Reich's credentials on 'authoritarianism' check this out:

Wilhelm Reich was born October 18, 1852, in Karlburg, Hungary, in the county of Pressburg. (1) He was one of a distinguished family of rabbis, the most famous of whom was his eldest brother, Koppel. (2) The following biographical information about Rabbi Koppel Reich is provided as a likely guide to Wilhelm Reich's own parentage and upbringing.
:o

yo dude, you got the wrong w. reich!

Wilhelm Reich (March 24, 1897–November 3, 1957) was an Austrian-American psychiatrist, psychoanalyst, and author, who was trained in Vienna by Sigmund Freud.

When his Mass Psychology of Fascism, published in 1933, was banned by the Nazis, Reich realized he was in danger; he moved to the United States in 1939, where he continued his orgone research.

In August 1956, several tons of his publications were burned by the FDA. He died of heart failure in jail just over a year later, one day before he was due to apply for parole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

[OuterLimits]

That must of been grand-pa. Check this major quackery...

Died. Wilhelm Reich, 60, once-famed psychoanalyst, associate, and follower of Sigmund Freud, founder of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation, lately better known for unorthodox sex and energy theories; of a heart attack in Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary, Pa; where he was serving a two-year term for distributing his invention, the "orgone energy accumulator" (in violation of the Food and Drug Act), a telephone-booth-size device which supposedly gathered energy from the atmosphere, and could cure, while the patient sat inside, common colds, cancer and impotence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

[youngblood]

josh in japan wrote:
i, I said there is nothing wrong with cussing. i informed you that we all use curse words to make a point about something we feel strongly about. i'm in the ****ing navy for God sakes, you think I don't "cuss like a sailor"? all i said was to use it only when needed, and not to just say it on whim cause you want.....
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and who decides when it is 'needed', you? ones man need to cuss is another
mans egragious use of cussin.

to say it is ok to cuss only when it is 'warrented' , is essentially saying that it
isnt ok to cuss. its 'doublespeak'.



josh in japan said:
see it as you wish....
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i admit he could have 'consciously' been mistaken, but depth psychology shows
us that there is no such thing as a mistake. unconsciously or consciously he wanted me locked out and thats what ended up happening.




josh in japan wrote:
i'm a friggin E-5 in the navy with a wife and 2 kids. do you honestly think i have the time or money to worry about such a petty ****ing thing as a lawsuit? i'm too busy playing with the kids and making my podcast. put it up for all to see, i don't care. i know what i said, and i trust that you will post it in it's entirety and unedited if you honestly care that much....
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i have no idea what an e-5 is. people with wives and kids file frivolous law
suits everday. i dont know you from adam's housecat but based on your
podcast and posts here you did seem to fall in my 'might file a frivoulous law
suit' catagory.

and on one episode of your show you said that you sold a used computer to
one of your fellow shipmates at a new computer price. and since you would
jip one of your fellow shipmates i figured it wasnt much of a stretch that you
might file a frivolous law suit against me.




and please notice how other users at pickle are rude to me...thats fine w/ me but
is bogus if i can't defend my self in return.


josh in japan wrote:
this is the exact reason i locked that thread over there. there was absolutely no reason for anyone to keep bashing you. we don't put up with personal attacks out in the threads over at the pickle.
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locking the thread didnt protect me. it did the opposite, you just tied my hands
while the others whailed away at me.

i'm not against a good cyber fight but its no fun when your hands are being tied
behind your back by the powers that be.

ill keep posting over at pickle some but it looks like ill just continue to get
whailed on while the 'moderators' tie my hands behind my back.

its your community, but just realize your not being fair.



josh in japan wrote:
that's why you were warned when you tried going after me. and that's why i locked the thread when i saw the **** that you were taking from everyone over there.
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my 'going after you' consisted of the following:

"hats right youngman! cussing is not allowed!!
one more cuss word out of you on this forum and i will have to send you to detention!!
the podcasting community is one of pupy dogs and pistol lillies!!
and dont forget furry little kittens!!
happy emoticons only!
no [mean emoticons]
got it youngman?
hope so, cuz i sure dont.


your response to this in a PM was the following

josh in japan wrote:
please quit with the synical sarcasm! it's really starting to get annoying! i understand that all you're trying to do is get a reaction, but i'm letting you know now, that if you're just here to troll and start sh[**] with other posters, it will not be tolerated....


i'm fair, and if this is a simple misunderstanding, please let me know now. i don't want to have to be an a[**]hole, but i think i know what kind of path your postings are trying to go down....
docsnavely
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looks like your 'going after me' was alot more harsh than my 'going after you'.

IMO, you got mad that i made a snide insightful comment a/o your
hypocracy regarding cussing and used your athourity to punish me or get
back at me.

this perhaps worked for you in some ways and back fired for you in other ways.

[youngblood]

That must of been grand-pa. Check this major quackery...

Died. Wilhelm Reich, 60, once-famed psychoanalyst, associate, and follower of Sigmund Freud, founder of the Wilhelm Reich Foundation, lately better known for unorthodox sex and energy theories; of a heart attack in Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary, Pa; where he was serving a two-year term for distributing his invention, the "orgone energy accumulator" (in violation of the Food and Drug Act), a telephone-booth-size device which supposedly gathered energy from the atmosphere, and could cure, while the patient sat inside, common colds, cancer and impotence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich




one person's quackery is another man's innovation.

reich's body armour discovery's are now taken as common fact in psychology.
nobody will dispute that body armour exists...just watch a euro-american
try and dance at a wedding. ...


the jury is still out on his orgoune discoveries....perhaps in 20 years it will
also be as accepted and common knowledge as the notion of body armour.

[OuterLimits]

one person's quackery is another man's innovation.

reich's body armour discovery's are now taken as common fact in psychology.
nobody will dispute that body armour exists...just watch a euro-american
try and dance at a wedding. ...


the jury is still out on his orgoune discoveries....perhaps in 20 years it will
also be as accepted and common knowledge as the notion of body armour.

Come on yb, let's not get glib here. You justified your bogus use of 'fascism' to bogus Reich. I called you on Reich and this is your come back? Come on man. Reich's about as credible, objective and informative as Freud or Boas not to mention the other 'survivors' that got the boot for being their lovable, innocent, fleckless selves.

Cheers,
:D

[youngblood]

[quote=youngblood]

Come on yb, let's not get glib here. You justified your bogus use of 'fascism' to bogus Reich. I called you on Reich and this is your come back? :D

using fascism to refer to a certain personality type is far from bogus.

there is not much to argue a/o regarding reich. some people think he was a
quack. i do not, and i just pointed out where he was and wasn't accepted in
psychology.