best site host?

[ElNacho]

I'm going to buy a domain for my site, but I want a good amount of bandwith and storage. I also want kinda cheap site, not one too expensive like geocities...which sucks anyways. So, any good recomendations? And this is what I want, so don't give me a link to a $5 redirect, Google blogger, and Feedburner.

[O.C. Chris]

I'm going to buy a domain for my site, but I want a good amount of bandwith and storage. I also want kinda cheap site, not one too expensive like geocities...which sucks anyways. So, any good recomendations? And this is what I want, so don't give me a link to a $5 redirect, Google blogger, and Feedburner.


My friend works for http://ipowerweb.com/

$7.95 a month. 95 a year. Good deal. Check it out.

[ElNacho]

i looked at the thing looks pretty good anyone else? If you agree with him about the best I want to hear that too, I want to hear all your opinions, or sumpthing that you've heard or anything. I want to know and I want to know now because I want to have my site up and running by the end of today :twisted: I'm impatient. I already have all my files and everything so waiting makes me bored.

I want forums, they can be routed if neccesary, so give me your opinions on that too.

[ElNacho]

www.site5.com looks good, the Horsepower. any1 else got an opinion?

[kickasspodcast]

Check out


http://aitcom.net/
or
http://www.bluehost.com/

There are lotsa good ones, always a trade off though. I have yet to find the perfect, affordable web hosting service.

Best of Luck!

JackB

[TheBigFish]

Hello,
I run switchpod.com For $6 per month we give you unmetered bandwidth and a free wordpress blog. We have a feed builder as well. Just uploard your podcast and we do the rest.

[docsnavely]

i use site ground (http://www.siteground.com) for my website, and then libsyn for file hosting.

you can get 100 gig of bandwidth a month with 1000 meg of storage for $5 a month with a 1 year contract with site ground. they have a 15 minute or less turn around on trouble tickets, and can load prety much any scripts you want them to......

as for libsyn, i would reccomend them only for the actual hosting of your files if you feel you'll use more than the 100 gig.

[ElNacho]

dont think ill b usin that much storage, and 1000mBs of bandwith probably wouldn't cut it. I'll probably go with site5 cause it has all the features I want, if someone can find another site with equal features but cheaper that'd be great, thanks

[docsnavely]

oops, sorry, my bust..... 100gig bandwidth, and 1000mb stor.....

original edited to reflect correctness.......

[ElNacho]

hm...5$...price is good bandwith is fine, is 2 gigs more storage worth the 24 extra dollars a year from site5...hm

[ElNacho]

hm...5$...price is good bandwith is fine, is 2 gigs more storage worth the 24 extra dollars a year from site5...hm

How much memory do you feel I would be using hosting all my casts, movies, swfs, etc....and a forum?

[docsnavely]

how big are your files? how frequently are you recording.

if you ever reach the 1gig limit, archive your older files to one of the free archive sites.....

can't think of the names, but they exist.....

[ElNacho]

well lets see i make a 30-60 minute podcast every couple days, probably about 3 times a month. Do the archive sites allow for, like, access through an RSS or anything?

[docsnavely]

3, 60 minute shows a month?

if that's the case, you have no worries about storage for a while to come.....

and yes, if you can link to the file when it's archived somewhere, there should be no problems with it in your feed.

[ElNacho]

then how can the archives be free? that's like free infinite storage...

[ElNacho]

that's only 6 months...probably 5 or less if I add other files. I want the site going for a year without many changes...But hm tell me about theses archiving sites...because 24$ is a TON of money (lol) and I will not be needing 3 gigs until March of 07 (hoooly poop...can i curse on the forums?) so yah the siteground is looking better, but i wanna hear about these archive sites. (I can always still upload my oldest files to, say, blipmedia and have them hold them...) oh yah so siteground is gonna b the one, but first i wanna hear bout those archivers...is rizzn what you're talking about?

and does anyone know how to make a forum? can you help me once i get the site?

[shepdave]

In seems no longer fashionable to say so, but Liberated Syndication (http://libsyn.com/signup.php?ref=216830853763514547489ee8ffa71c0f) (LibSyn) certainly does the job. Cheap, easy to use, unmetered bandwidth.

For $5 a month you get 100 Mb of storage for that month. For $10 you get 250 Mb. After a file has been up for a month, it is archived (for free!) and you start over.

Some people have complained about problems, but I have had none serious enough to warrant looking anywhere else. The team is very responsive to direct email inquiries.

In my opinion, LibSyn has made it easy for a lot of podcasters to get started, and has made a huge contribution to the explosion of podcasting. And a lot of the PCA top 50 podcasts are on LibSyn.

And yes, I will get a credit if you click through on the above link! :D

Dave

[shepdave]

Oh yes: there is no forum built in to LibSyn (http://libsyn.com/signup.php?ref=216830853763514547489ee8ffa71c0f), but there is a good, spam-protected comment feature.

For the purposes of serving a podcast, they are great (in my opinion).

Dave

[kickasspodcast]

In seems no longer fashionable to say so, but Liberated Syndication (http://libsyn.com/signup.php?ref=216830853763514547489ee8ffa71c0f) (LibSyn) certainly does the job. Cheap, easy to use, unmetered bandwidth.

For $5 a month you get 100 Mb of storage for that month. For $10 you get 250 Mb. After a file has been up for a month, it is archived (for free!) and you start over.

Some people have complained about problems, but I have had none serious enough to warrant looking anywhere else. The team is very responsive to direct email inquiries.

In my opinion, LibSyn has made it easy for a lot of podcasters to get started, and has made a huge contribution to the explosion of podcasting. And a lot of the PCA top 50 podcasts are on LibSyn.

And yes, I will get a credit if you click through on the above link! :D

Dave


Libsyn is not a hosting service. Sorry.

ITs a 3rd party Syndication Service.
Its also instantly makes your podcast commercial because other people are suddenly making money off your show.

Now there are certainly benefits to libsyn, but don't think its much different than Feedburner, Odeo, or any other service that "does it all" for you. Even if you pay them to take care of it, they still are syndicating your content. The only reason they do this, is to make money. Alot of the top 50 podcasts are so overtly commercial that libsyn makes sense, and if you want to make money on your podcast by giving libsyn a cut, then by all means. However... libysn is NOT a hosting company.

I think all of their services should be free because they are making money of YOUR content.

BTW- if you use 3rd party services you can no longer use incredible resources like http://archive.org/ nor can you claim to be non-commerical.


I am not slamming libsyn, but since you ran an add for them in your last post, I wanted to get on and give my views on it. Its great- if it works for you- GREAT. But its WAY,WAY,WAY over priced and severely limits your ability to remain independent. Not to mention their servers really AREN't that fast.


Jack B.

[ElNacho]

I tried to repost earlier the site was being stupid.

Yah 2 things, libsyn or however u spell it wasnt even opening, and id get more storage per year for less with siteground.

Does archive.org let u host things already hosted and then take them down from the already hosted sites? What's it do? I want to know about these archiver things.

[kickasspodcast]

Archive.org is not a hosting service at all.

You can give them persmission to archive your stuff, if they want to archive it they will.

Audio at Archive.org
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree.php

What archive.org has is massive audio section that lists everything by band.
You can click on each band and view their policy. Not to mention these audio guru's use high fidelity formats for best quality of the songs. Not like the shitty compresssed MP3s you get from some other sites. Archive.org actually offers loss-less audio, for free and WITHOUT some shady "register today" method! Just browse and download!

Here is the general policy for etree and archive.org


Welcome to the Live Music Archive. etree.org is a community committed to providing the highest quality live concerts in a lossless, downloadable format. The Internet Archive has teamed up with etree.org to preserve and archive as many live concerts as possible for current and future generations to enjoy. All music in this Collection is from trade-friendly artists and is strictly noncommercial, both for access here and for any further distribution. Artists' commercial releases are off-limits. This collection is maintained by the etree.org community.


If you use a 3rd party syndication service that makes money distributing your content. It is no longer strictly noncommercial. Not to mention Archive.org has some of the worlds best music inside. They are well established bands who are nice enough to be trade-safe.

Jack B.

[shepdave]

Libsyn is not a hosting service. Sorry.

ITs a 3rd party Syndication Service.
Its also instantly makes your podcast commercial because other people are suddenly making money off your show.

Now there are certainly benefits to libsyn, but don't think its much different than Feedburner, Odeo, or any other service that "does it all" for you. Even if you pay them to take care of it, they still are syndicating your content. The only reason they do this, is to make money. Alot of the top 50 podcasts are so overtly commercial that libsyn makes sense, and if you want to make money on your podcast by giving libsyn a cut, then by all means. However... libysn is NOT a hosting company.

I think all of their services should be free because they are making money of YOUR content.


I don't quite understand some of what you wrote, Jack. Specifically, how are they "making money" off me, other than selling me server space?

It doesn't seem quite right to me that somebody should simply give me server space for my media files and/or rss feed. If by "making money syndicating my content" you mean I pay them for something I could possibly get elsewhere for free, well, yeah, I pay them for the server space. And they archive my old stuff for free (that is, included in my $10 a month).

But their servers do cost money, and so I pay them a little bit each month for the storage. Yeah, I know storage is relatively cheap nowadays, but it's not free.

Are you saying they're making money "off my content" in some other way? I'm not sure exactly how. They're not re-selling my content or anything like that nor using my content for their advertising purposes, just hooking my domain name to their server and helping me put out a podcast.

I certainly don't mind that.

If I'm missing something here, please tell me.

Now--the fact that ElNacho couldn't get their server to respond when he went looking...well, that is a problem. Equipment shifts have caused the server to be down sometimes lately (but not as much, say, as Podcast Alley, as far as I can tell). But that's a different issue. It hasn't been a problem for me, but YMMV.

Dave

[shepdave]

I was thinking about this some more while I was out mowing the lawn.


Libsyn is not a hosting service. Sorry.

ITs a 3rd party Syndication Service.
Its also instantly makes your podcast commercial because other people are suddenly making money off your show.

Jack B.

:?:

A 3rd-party syndication service?? No, it's not. Are we talking about the same company?

LibSyn is precisely a hosting service. As far as I know that is all they do.

I take it, Jack, you are not a currently LibSyn customer. Have you ever been one?

They are not a "3rd-party" anything. They are not anything at all like Odeo. Despite what you might infer from their name, they themselves do not commercially "syndicate" anybody's content.

Rather, I assume they got their name from the third "S" in "RSS"=Really Simple SYNDICATION, referring to the process of your "syndicating" your own content to users who subscribe to it.

I've been a LibSyn customer since March. I pay them $10 a month and upload my sound files to their server.

I don't work for them, nor do I have stock in the company, nor anything like that. At times in the past two months I've actually gotten pissed at them for servers being down and such. Yes, if you subscribe by clicking on the above link, I will get a little kickback. You know how much? If you stay with them for two months, I get your first month's fee--that's it.

So far I have made exactly $20 through that arrangement.

My podcast is not commercial, although it is currently in the PCA top 25. (Thank you, loyal listeners!) I and my partners make not one thin dime from The Word Nerds. So far the net outlay is about $1,000.00--wait, my brother in North Carolina just got a good mike and mixer, so we're up to a net cash OUTFLOW of $1,150.

There are exactly two "business entities" involved with my podcast: (1) myself (I bought a domain name for $12 a year, I pay LibSyn $10 a month to host my files, and I have spent WAY too much free time doing my podcast); and (2) Liberated Syndication who--yes indeed, this is the deal--HOST my mp3 files on their server every month, and then serve them to my listeners.

That's all they do. They host media files and have a little automatic RSS engine that cranks out the RSS file for you.

So, yes, once again, i'd recommend LibSyn as a podcast HOSTING service, since that is what they do.

Dave

[kickasspodcast]

Libsyn is a hosting company?

LibSyn is precisely a hosting service. As far as I know that is all they do.

Really? That's not what they say.. but i'll get to that.


But if your Right! Cool!

I just bought 12345.com How long will it take for my new libsyn server to propagate so that I can start editing, ftp-ing and uploading html or php files to my new libsyn server? Is my libsyn server a Windows Server or is it Linux or what?

Well to cut to the chase- I just got off the phone with "Dave" from the company that owns Libsyn. The company is called "Webmayhem".
http://webmayhem.com/simple/mainframe.html

He was very nice and helpful. I called him at his listed number of 412.298.1254 I asked him; "Is libsyn a hosting company?" he said "no, libsyn is a podcast syndication company." I went on to ask if libsyn could
provide web hosting for my new .com and he said, "no".


I have heard lotsa people (probably those who want those kickbacks you mentioned) say that libsyn is a hosting company. Its not.

You don't even have to call and ask "Dave". You can tell its not webhosting company because they don't say anywhere on the website that they are a hosting company.

Before you sign up- you have to agree to these terms:



. Regarding copyrighted material or music covered under the umbrella of the RIAA: LIBSYN FORBIDS THE USE OF SUCH MATERIAL IN ANY BROADCAST SYNDICATED ON THIS NETWORK. In the event of a violation regarding these issues, Libsyn retains the right to cancel an account at our discretion and the user may have to forfeit his/her enrollment cost for our services if such actions are deemed necessary by our management. In addition, users are hereby notified that violation of any copyright or intellectual property law could result in civil / legal action; users hereby acknowledge that they are responsible for observing U.S. and International copyright laws and while Liberated Syndications observes and complies with such laws, so shall each user observe and comply with U.S. and international copyright laws and statutes.

No web hosting company in the world would have include this as part of the terms unless, the are Odeo or Feedburner or some other company that makes money syndicating content.
If you actually use a real hosting company- they don't care. It's your *** if you do something illegal- not them.

The real dead give away is this

As with any new distribution technology that involves artistic content, the future of an involved regulation by organizations such as the RIAA are imminent, so we will have to take steps to protect ourselves

Aha! They are a syndication company afterall!


The songs on Archive.org are techincally copyrighted- BUT the owners of the copyrights have given permission for certain use and that varies by band.


Hey- I am not trashing libsyn. I like them even more since I got off the phone with "Dave" and he was so friendly and helpful- even at work on Saturday! I say whatever makes podcasting stronger- Be it Libsyn, Odeo, Feedburner...whatever... as long as people know what they are getting in to and what limitations they have when they commit to a 3rd party web syndication service like libsyn.


This is the language you see in lotsa the music on Archive.org


No commercial gain may be sought by websites offering digital files, whether through advertising, exploiting databases compiled from their traffic, or any other means.

Well that pretty much eliminates the entire itunes database, google ads, blogads, odeo, feedburner AND libsyn!
Some people wanna throw directories like PCA in with that- BUT my lawyer has told me that basic web directories aren't technically exploited databases. Besides- PCA doesn't offer the files. I do. Thats the difference. You don't offer the files, libsyn does.

Its a small price to play for getting to play some of worlds best music without forking over your life's savings to the RIAA,ASCAP,SESAC,BMI and the rest of the Copyright Cartel.

;)

Have fun Word guys!

Jack B.

To the thread starter- you get what you pay for in life- web hosting is no exception.


PS- lotsa people are trying to cash in on podcasting- I am not one of them.

[shepdave]

Well, okay...

I don't play RIAA/ASCAP music in my podcast anyway, because, well, it's copyrighted. As I said above, I don't make a penny off this podcasting thing, and I can't afford to pay license fees.

I've published things before (books and songs) that I wanted to protect, and I'd probably pursue legal action if those copyrights were violated. I now offer my podcast under a Creative Commons License, making clear that the GarageBand music I use is solely owned by its creators.

As I read (both present and past tenses) LibSyn's terms of service, they are trying to indemnify themselves against damages sought for misdeeds committed through their service. That seems to be a standard condition in most Terms of Service agreements I've seen.

Okay, you're right, LibSyn is not set up to host big websites that handle e-commerce and so on. They cater to podcasters who need to upload big(ger) mp3 files.

But I still say they're not a 3rd party anything. They do not re-sell nor re-market nor re-syndicate my stuff. They just host it. They are not like Odeo; I don't really know Feedburner, but I am pretty familiar with Odeo.

So, original poster, if you have a .com domain and you need a place to host a website (as opposed to a podcast), LibSyn is not for you.

if you have a domain and you want to use it for a podcast (and nothing else), I'd say LibSyn's your place.

Jack, I'm not sure you really read what I wrote about the "kickbacks" to which you refer. They are minuscule. I got the equivalent of free hosting for two months, that's it so far. (And my hosting costs the equivalent of three Starbucks Grande Mochas a month.) The fees came from a couple people who heard my podcast and signed up with LibSyn. We are not talking big bucks. It's a rather standard affiliation agreement (like Amazon or iTunes).

Dave

[docsnavely]

ya, i use libsyn strictly for file storage since i exceeded my 100 gig of bandwidth from my host a while ago.....

i do like the unmetered bandwidth, but miss the accurate stats that my host could give me on each file i had.....

plus the libsyn servers are a bit slower, but that's to be expected.....

if they would move into the hosting realm, i would seriously consider them as long as i could load any script, and access my cPanel....

[ElNacho]

stop arguing with eachother and help me with which is the best site. From what i understand siteground is the way to go, and if one day, like in 6 months, find that ive run out of storage...take my older episodes and shove them onto libsyn? or is there a free archiver or what?

[kickasspodcast]

Look Nacho-

there is no "best" host. Every host has different pro's and cons.
Seriously man- you get what you pay for- Libsyn does a ****
good job for people, I know people that are also equally pleased
with other services like Feedburner and Odeo. Those work great
for 1000's of people. They have their limitations, but make it
easy, and affordable. You can go to the sites that we mentioned here
already. I checked them out- they seem to be all good leads.
Truthfully it is fairly expensive to get a ton of bandwidth with
plenty of storage on fast servers.

Best of Luck!

Jack B.

[ElNacho]

I guess you're right.

Siteground it is

thanks everyone and bye

[docsnavely]

:?

[ElNacho]

hahaha wait a second...I had forgotten why I made this post lol.

It was to find some good site hosts...cause I knew none.

So lemme redo that above post...

...well hm I'll just say...i already said it and...um

So now i no wut i'm gonna do thanx and u can stop postin on this thread now.

[celerityfm]

I know this thread is technically over, but I wanted to chime in and plug my favorite webhost, 1and1/SCHLUND+Partner (http://www.1and1.com).

I've been using them for over 3 years now, at my place of business I have 1 linux shared hosting account and 1 top of the line dedicated server with them. For my K9Cast (http://www.k9cast.com) podcast I have a top of the line linux shared hosting account and it works GREAT.

Here's the #1 reason you should consider 1and1:
They have the most bad ***, unstoppable, secure datacenters you could ask for (http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/DataCenter).

Seriously. Watch the flash movie about their premiere data center and ask yourself if YOUR webhost has stuff like that behind YOUR server!

[docsnavely]

they're the ones who have been advertising in the back of wired for the last 4 years.......

[celerityfm]

they're the ones who have been advertising in the back of wired for the last 4 years.......

And thats how I found out about them-- when they started their small business/consumer hosting business in the US they did a promotion, that is unfortunately long over, where they gave away 3 years worth of hosting with no obligation to renew after the 3rd year to anyone who wanted to sign up. In my case their bet payed off :) They had ads running in wired/pc magazine/etc ... everyone thought there was some kind of catch.. there was no catch, only superb service.

I've been dealing with hosting companies for 10 years and these guys are definitely tops on my list!

[texafornia]

What do you guys think of these AIS dudes?

I just got an email from the guys at Apple saying that they're going to "feature" my podcast on a banner on their podcast directory. I'm just about max out my 75 gigs of transfer as it is, and this will most definitely black out my service for good. Does AIS or libsyn actually tag your shows with ads? How long has AIS been around?

[Pats Podcast]

Hi everyone:well lets see i make a 30-60 minute podcast every couple days, probably about 3 times a month. Do the archive sites allow for, like, access through an RSS or anything?My shows are hosted by the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/). I use FeedBurner for RSS and FeedBurner pints to the posted MP3 links I from the IA.

Hope this helps :)
Cheers for now http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/ernaehrung/food-smiley-004.gif

[Pats Podcast]

Hi everyone:then how can the archives be free? that's like free infinite storage...That's exactly what the Internet Archive (http://www.archive.org/) provides.
Cheers for now http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/ernaehrung/food-smiley-004.gif

[raghavsuri]

You may want to try 1and1.com for web hosting, the basic package has 1000MB's but for uploading audio files you can use archive.org, it's free and unlimited bandwith.

[littleflurry]

In seems no longer fashionable to say so, but Liberated Syndication (http://libsyn.com/signup.php?ref=216830853763514547489ee8ffa71c0f) (LibSyn) certainly does the job. Cheap, easy to use, unmetered bandwidth.

For $5 a month you get 100 Mb of storage for that month. For $10 you get 250 Mb. After a file has been up for a month, it is archived (for free!) and you start over.

Some people have complained about problems, but I have had none serious enough to warrant looking anywhere else. The team is very responsive to direct email inquiries.

In my opinion, LibSyn has made it easy for a lot of podcasters to get started, and has made a huge contribution to the explosion of podcasting. And a lot of the PCA top 50 podcasts are on LibSyn.

And yes, I will get a credit if you click through on the above link! :D

Dave
I haven't been able to login to my libsyn account for 3 days.
I have emailed 3 times in 3 days and no reply still!

Littleflurry at candidradio.com

[womengrow]

My friend works for http://ipowerweb.com/

I like the too. I have used them for years, even prior to using them for my podcast. Incidentally, Podcast411 uses iPowerweb.

[ElNacho]

hory ****!
i remember when i made this thread