Poop man has been removed from itunes store!

[camilian]

I have been removed from the itunes store. Why? I am guessing it is because I poop and I was in the top 100.

The only way you can find me now is in the audioblog section. No keywords, nothing... And if you click on my icon in the top 100 it reads "not availible in the us store" Now I am dropping out of the top 100 super fast, want to bet I get added back after I am off the list?

[jeffoest]

What the......?

[owyn]

You will have lots of company. iTMS has started policing the podcasts and removing any that are "unsuitable".

Unsuitable also includes casts which might be RIAA infringing.

Apple is also reacting to comments (http://www.ipodlounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/editorial-apples-porno-podcasts-explicit-and-unlabeled/).

[waynealanharold]

:evil:

[podcastshuffle]

I have been removed from the itunes store. Why? I am guessing it is because I poop and I was in the top 100.

You've got the explicit tag and your show despite its "venue" its probably less "objectional" than other shows in the Top 100. My guess is that its some sort of error. Oprah had a doctor on her show the other day talking about "poop". Red Bar Radio had it on their show laughing about it a week or so ago. If Oprah can talk about hers... ;)

[camilian]

It is now removed from the top 100 now. Was #68 15 minutes ago. They have still not removed me from the audio blogs, but that will be soon.

Guess Apple are not fans of poop.

[waynealanharold]

Everybody poops. Even Steve Jobs. :P

I guess it was nice while it lasted--I can't tell you how psyched I was when i saw you high up on that list, Chris.

I wonder if there's going to be a massive deletion of podcasts?

[timn]

Mistake? Ummm, maybe not. Perhaps Apple is showing us they are not ready for podcasting -- that perhaps Apple's reach exceeds its grasp.

See, the problem with allowing listeners to decide what is popular is that the results can be unpredictable... and controversial. For years now, the merchandisers avoided this by controlling what is and what is not popular.

I have a number of additional comments about this but I think I'll hold off until we're sure it's not a mistake. But I think I see Rod Serling emerging from smokey shadows saying...

"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, smells - to be found only in the minds of men and in Chris's small studio. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone."

[allthewhile]

Okay maybe there's just an error with iTunes. Are we absolutely sure they purposely removed the podcast? I mean feast of fools is a highlighted show for heaven's sake. Just search for the word "sex" in the search bar, there's quite a few "explicit" shows.

[justSue]

I noticed that at about 4:30 today - trying to re-subscribe to the ones I had before this new harddrive. Couldn't find you by searching by name, couldn't find you in music, etc etc. When I finally did find you, it wouldn't let me subscribe. I rebooted, found you in the top 100 (barely) and had to click "GET" instead of subscribe. It worked but don't know for how long.

TOTAL CRAP! (no pun intended). Why would they censor you like that? Someone else in this thread made the point that there are much more objectionable podcasts listed. Its true.

Shaking my head and firing up iPodder....

[jimk]

That's just not cool.

Is there ANY chance that it's not due to content but rather due to potential RIAA infringement?

[dcolanduno]

Doesn't make sense... Dawn and Drew do far worse things on their show. ANY chance of RIAA ANYTHING on your show?

If not... this is sad.

[Jellicle]

Okay maybe there's just an error with iTunes. Are we absolutely sure they purposely removed the podcast? I mean feast of fools is a highlighted show for heaven's sake. Just search for the word "sex" in the search bar, there's quite a few "explicit" shows.

The biggest laugh for me is that a show called "Sex Talk" is at 39 in the top 100. Sex Talk is a political podcast about gender issues. It isn't podcast porn.

[timn]

OK, Assuming this is not a mistake, what should be the reaction from the podcasting community?

Since Apple is a corporation and iTunes is a commercial endeavor, they clearly are under no obligation whatsoever to be 'all inclusive'. They are free to include or exclude whatever they choose based on any criteria they choose. You can't even really call it censorship -- it's not like the FCC came down on Apple.

Disappointing? Perhaps, but maybe what it really represents is an opportunity. An opportunity for a company with more foresight than Apple.

Frankly, I've always been much more impressed with garageband.com than with iTunes. DRM? Who needs it. An increasing percentage of the music I listen to comes from garageband.com My last 5 albums were purchased from artists on garageband.com

I not seriously suggesting that the 'end is near' for iTunes or commercial music labels or that we're entering some kind of podsafe nirvana. Clearly that's not the case. But what I am seriously suggesting is that there are now viable alternatives for people who want them -- and I personally recommend these alternatives to people I know every day.

So with respect to Apple iTunes and podcasting, its possible they may be judged and found obsolete. I would not waste time being angry -- I suggest we simply figure out the fastest way to route around the damage.

PS: Chris: I never thought I find myself defending a poopcast. But first they came for the poopcasters and because I was not a poopcaster I did not speak up.... (apologies to Martin Niemöller)

PS2: Can someone check and see if Yeast is listed -- maybe they think it's a show about baking bread.

[owyn]

The iTMS approval and review process is at the same time it's strength and it's weakness. Unfortunately, it is probably a legal necessity for iTMS to be proactive and reactive in removing "unsuitable" content from it's directory. Consider the impact of the Grokster decision.

For myself, I will continue to use directories which are both open and accesible. At this point I find Podnova to be the most open as it is based on Spidering opml trees. Accesible means supporting feed manager dynamic opml and/or rss. Podnova, Podcast Pickle, and PCA My Alley provide this support.

I know that iPodder Lemon supports this protocol. iTunes definitely does not. Not sure about the other podcatch clients.

eg. Has anyone used Podnova with iPodderX or Doppler?

[waynealanharold]

I'm subscribed to Chris' show and I just clicked on the button next to the title in my Podcast playlist. Instead of taking me to The Daily Download's listing in iTunes' podcast directory it just goes to Chris' domain--like it's a site that not's been listed yet! :evil:

[Jellicle]

OK, Assuming this is not a mistake, what should be the reaction from the podcasting community?

Since Apple is a corporation and iTunes is a commercial endeavor, they clearly are under no obligation whatsoever to be 'all inclusive'.

The hypocritical thing is they sell songs that include hateful comments about women and which incite violence, as well as being sexually explicit.

[justSue]

The hypocritical thing is they sell songs that include hateful comments about women and which incite violence, as well as being sexually explicit.

Exactly!!!! Don't even make me bring up the whole "n" word issue.

Its POOPING for chrissakes. Its funny and entertaining and real. Its not violent or sexual or prejudiced in any way. The folks responsible for filtering these shows obviously aren't listening.

[camilian]

I received an email from apple saying they have the right to remove questionable content. But it looks to just be a form mail that is sent to anyone who asked why they were removed. Anyone happen to have a connection at Apple? I would like to find out what is going on.

[camilian]

I really don't want to make too much of a big stink until I know Exactly what happened..... but if I find they pushed me out for pooping, man o' man will I stink.

[djacobs003]

Gee Chris, doesn't your friend Adam have a good connection at Apple?

Hey Apple, can you please finish ADDING the podcasts that are not in yet before you start deleting!!!

Rock and Roll Jew Show is NOT in yet and I am all podsafe, WTF! Oh and by the way, Rock and Roll Geek show is in and it's NOT always podsafe.

If Daily Download is out then I expect Dawn and Drew to go soon. I think on their last show they talked about anal sex. If you're f**cking it or pooping out of it, an *** is an ***.

[jimk]

What baffles me is how shows that have TRULY perverse and way over the top content, content that comes close to offending even me (and that;s almost not possible) is still in. Some of it is FEATURED.

I'm getting angrier and angrier with Apple. And with Curry for being such a whore for this nonsense.

[djacobs003]

Curry obviously did a hell of a deal with Apple for his podshow "family". Virtually all of his podshow podcasts are featured, including the newly added Mommycast.

Anyone notice they also took down the "indie" features and replaced it with "comedy". That whole front page of the iTunes podcast directory, makes me sick to look at it.

This is something I am going to start talking about in my podcast and I encourage others to as well. We need to educate the new iTunes listeners who, by some miricle of God, may find one of our little "indie" podcasts and let them know there is a much bigger world out there than what they see on the front page of iTunes podcast directory. Show them how to find the real podcasts, even point them to Podcast Alley, a much better resource than iTunes.

[ferg]

I see it under Politics, Comedy, etc...but I can't subscribe - it says it's not available in the US music store. For what it's worth - I had this problem with my podcast at one point early on, but it went away...

[Insomnia Radio]

Anyone notice they also took down the "indie" features and replaced it with "comedy". That whole front page of the iTunes podcast directory, makes me sick to look at it.

Yes. Apple was starting to win me over until I saw this. No indie category anymore? Chris' show HAD an explicit tag next to it, just as all the absolutely WORSE music that iTMS carries...

This is baffling. Fan or not of the Daily Download, this is ridiculous to be removed when you label your content correctly.

And no, I don't think it has anything to do with RIAA infringement...

Well, maybe ODEO can do better...

[richpav]

Apple probably removed Chris's show because it might create bad press for them. Let's face it, if a journalist is going to write about the iTunes podcasting directory, they're going to highlight the ones most likely to illicit an emotional response. Apple doesn't want the public associating dookie with podcasting and iPods.

Also, I can't blame them for featuring professional content on the front page. People are getting their first taste of podcasting, and Apple wants them to come away with a good first impression. Also, I suspect they're either selling spaces on the splash page or featuring corporate produced content as a way to strengthen their ties. Apple will treat the indy podcasters as bad as they can get away with. We're just fodder.

Who knows, things might change drastically in the future. Apple's still figuring things out, someone else might be put in charge of categorizing, fed up indy podcasters bitching about the situation might make Apple re-evaulate things, a site like Odeo might end up being more valuable and user-friendly than iTunes, etc. I think an equilibrium will eventually be found, but for now I'm enjoying all the fun and excitement. There's something new out there every day.

[dcolanduno]

Apple probably removed Chris's show because it might create bad press for them. Let's face it, if a journalist is going to write about the iTunes podcasting directory, they're going to highlight the ones most likely to illicit an emotional response. Apple doesn't want the public associating dookie with podcasting and iPods.

I'd buy that, if it wasn't for shows like Dawn and Drew NOT being removed. Not that I mind Dawn and Drew, I listen. I'm just saying that... On their show, they talk about Far, Far, Worse things than the #2 Humor on the Daily Download.

It is either a mistake, as Ferg pointed out, it happened to him for a brief moment. Or, this is a real issue. Because that would seem like blatant favoritism, to a completely different level.

I'm still holding out on this one... But not for long.

[timn]

Curry obviously did a hell of a deal with Apple for his podshow "family". Virtually all of his podshow podcasts are featured, including the newly added Mommycast.

That must mean that Yeast is still up and flying on iTMS, no?

If Apple thinks it's avoiding a PR nightmare by excluding TDD while still including D&D and Yeast, it's living in a delusion. Just wait till the first 12 year old boy gets caught sharing Yeast with his classmates at school. Some self-righteous member of Congress will go apeshit and demand 'controls' on podcast distribution to 'protect the children'.

Of course this is all speculation at this point. But I think only Curry might stand a chance of getting a real answer from Apple on this.

[dcolanduno]

[quote="timnIf Apple thinks it's avoiding a PR nightmare by excluding TDD while still including D&D and Yeast, it's living in a delusion. Just wait till the first 12 year old boy gets caught sharing Yeast with his classmates at school. Some self-righteous member of Congress will go apeshit and demand 'controls' on podcast distribution to 'protect the children'.[/quote]

Someone should start a countdown clock for this one.

Heck we can even take odds on which side of the isle does it first. I can see almost an even set of reasons and events that could occur that might set off one side or the other.

If it isn't the 'vulgarity' reason... it will be something else.

[djacobs003]

Also, I suspect they're either selling spaces on the splash page or featuring corporate produced content as a way to strengthen their ties. Apple will treat the indy podcasters as bad as they can get away with. We're just fodder.

I'm not interested in being fodder. Curry told the community this was a revolution of unique voices and content. How many times has he made fun of the big time radio boys that are now so featured on iTunes. So song as his podshow podcasts are on the corporate train, I don't know how much he cares really.

I always thought to myself, oh wait until the "real world" gets a load of Dawn and Drew or Yeast radio, the ultra conservatives are going to flip out. i still think this will happen, like was said, when mommy finds Yeast radio or Dawn and Drew on 10 year old Bobby's iPod.

But the unwashed need to know that podcasting also includes Rev Tim and Lifespring and Catholic Insider. But if the "indie" podcasts keep getting squished in the corner how will they ever know? They will think it's just a bunch of regurgitated radio shows, some tech shows and people who talk about poop.

[ferg]

I think, at this point, we need to keep our eye on this. I do find it VERY strange that Dawn and Drew are unaffectected, but Rockwell takes a fall. I'm holding out hope that this is just a glitch in the system.

I have to confess, though, especially with the removal of the "indie" thing on the front page of the store, I'm feeling less and less optimistic....

[jimk]

They will think it's just a bunch of regurgitated radio shows, some tech shows and people who talk about poop.

::looks at subscription list::

::walks away muttering "hey, what's wrong with all poop shows and tech stuff?"::

(kidding!)

[ferg]

Wait a second...I just realized something...

Remember how I said AirFerg was getting that "Not Available" message in the iTunes store?

Well, it just occured to me that that happened after I had submitted an alternate feed. A day or two after I submitted the new feed, the OLD feed started generating that message...a day or so after that, the new feed showed up, and the old feed was gone.

This makes me think that the Daily Download has actually been removed from the directory altogether...even though it still shows up in the lists. I can no longer find it in searches, and other than seeing it in the results list, I can do nothing with it.

Uh oh.

[RandomChatter]

The frustrating thing is that the podcasting community started this whole thing up, and Apple was "hands-off" for its birth. Then, for obvious reasons, we "handed it over" to Apple. And because podcasting has the word "pod" and constantly references iPods, everyone's natural assumption is that Apple is THE place to go.

Too bad we didn't call it something different. Like "feedcasting" or something. Something more accurate and not directly associated with a trademark or brand.

It bugs me that Apple SEEMS to be behaving this way (I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until we clear up whether this is more technical issues or a pathetic form of censorship), but they can choose to list whatever they want to list.

What REALLY concerns me is that they're not PodcastAlley, Podcast Pickle, or any of a number of other podcast directories. They're Apple, the maker of the devices we named this distribution method after. They've taken "ownership" of podcasting.

And sure, we in the podcasting community know better. But the general populous is going to see Apple as THE source for podcasts. And the big fear we're facing is whether we'll become "nobodys" if we're not listed there.

So... The real question here is this: If Apple really IS streamlining their offerings and weeding out what they're not interested in, what does that mean for the "indie" podcast community? What do we do? IS there anything we CAN do?

[timn]

Just saw this:

from: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05187/533660.stm


"The only twist to the iTunes podcast experience stems from Apple's decision to ban from its listings podcasts it deems to be pornographic, or to contain hate speech, or copyrighted material, such as music, which the podcaster lacks the right to distribute."

"Apple also labels some podcasts it accepts as "Explicit," if they contain obscenity or sexual content, but aren't considered pornography. To enforce these rules, Apple reviews each submitted podcast. But there are flaws in that system. First of all, it delays the appearance of podcasts for as much as a week after they are submitted. Secondly, it means some podcasts won't ever be included on iTunes, and will have to be located manually. Third, at least in its first week, Apple applied its own standards haphazardly."

Let me get this straight, Apple intends to review each and every podcast? ROTFLMAO! They really don't get it do they?

This is a tremendous marketing opportunity - a really big stumble by Apple. Oh, if I were only in a position to take advantage of it. ****, if the folks at garageband.com are listening, a window is opening.

[camilian]

This makes me think that the Daily Download has actually been removed from the directory altogether...even though it still shows up in the lists. I can no longer find it in searches, and other than seeing it in the results list, I can do nothing with it.

The way it disappeared little by little is what concerns me, sure seemed like I was removed.

I work in marketing and understand why I would be removed. If I was ABC/Disney and was paying to be in iTunes I would not want a show of a fat guy pooping with me on the same list, and on some days beating me. I doubt I was really pulled because of content, I bet I was pulled because what corp. wants a dude taking a dump kicking their ***?

I just wish they would tell me exactly why I was pulled.

BTW - The Daily Download is not a podshow. I built my my own feed, changed it to work with iTunes and pay for the host myself. Is this why I am gone and D&D are still around.... don't know, wish I did.

Can anyone confirm that some sex shows were pulled? If so can you list them?

Talked to Apple support this AM... the only option is to contact them with this form:
http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/windows/downloads.html

[RandomChatter]

Who cares if ABC/Disney paid money to be there? First of all, it's a free listing, so they shouldn't have paid to be able to "get in."

If they paid in order to get top billing, that's just as messed up, because iTunes should have offered to sell the REST of us feature spots too.

And hell, *I'VE* got to compete with a show about poop too! I've got no sympathy for them just because they paid money. If they don't like competing with what's out there, they should leave. Don't come into someone else's game and think you get to change the rules because you don't like the players.

[sigh] This sucks. I know, I know... despite the way things SHOULD be, that's not the way reality works.

I've not heard of any other shows being pulled for ANY reason, whether sex-related or otherwise. If I hear anything, I'll post it here.

[ferg]

[quote="RandomChatter"]Don't come into someone else's game and think you get to change the rules because you don't like the players.[/quote.]

Ah, but the reality is that iTunes is Apple's game, and the players are whomever they say are the players.

It's their store, and they have every right to do what they want. They don't owe us a spot in the top 100 or even a listing at all, and they don't have to even allow people to manually subscribe to feeds which are not listed.

All of that said, it's very disheartening. I agree with Chris - I don't think it had so much to do with content as it does with theme. There are certainly more insipid, vulgar or otherwise unappetizing podcasts out there than The Daily Download, and if they were actually listening to CONTENT, they'd know that. I think we were all excited by the prospect of new iTunes listeners...I know I was personally excited to see TDD doing so well...

Also, though, I'd just like to know

a) was he removed, or is this a glitch. Seems like the former, but we don't for sure.

b) why he was removed.

Maybe as a test, I will implement something a suggested earlier, and start my own podcast called The Daily Downstream, because peeing is generally less offensive to people than pooping, and see if that stays up there.

[camilian]

Airferg presents:

The Daily Douche

[ferg]

Airferg presents:

The Daily Douche

Hmmm...well, we sort of do that already...although, it's not daily. I think that douching daily could result in some irritation...

[jeffoest]

Also, it sounds like that TDD perhaps only got pulled as it started to do well on the very public top 100. They were probably averting the blog/news articles written about thier new product being dominated by stories of some guy pooping. TDD probalby would have been fine if they weren't so darn popular.

Because of that I'm going to do all I can to stay out of the top 100. See how successful I have been!! Believe me, it's hard work.

When I saws the new "comedy" category and the podcasts showcased (the morning shows) I DID listen to a couple of them. I think I'd rather listen to the worst 'amateur' podcast around than these shows. On the Danny Bonaduce show they actually had fake giggles throughout the show - I couldn't take 5 minutes.

This shows me that Apple has quite a bit of learning curve to go on understanding consumer's behaviour to non-music audio content. I truly believe they thought these shows would do well and be popular and reflect what people wanted. Daily inspection of the top 100 clearly shows these programs slowly sinking (that even with the propping-up that Apple is doing for them) - just we all probably were predicting.

They didn't anticipate a show about poop to do so well. Of course the irony there is that Chris makes the show's descriptions make it sound kind of lame but, as we all know, the reason it's so successful is because Chris is so articulate, interesting, and funny - poop's just his prop of choice.

So, Applle will climb the learning curve of understanding what drives podcast listeners. I guess, in a way, so will we - it's all evolving so quickly. If Apple starts taking out content, the free market has ways of dealing with that. There will always be distribution for all shows. Some channels for this distribution will be more open than others.

I think it's too early to write Apple off but clearly they are going to be learning a lot of about the audio market in the next six months and will surely end up making some broader policy as a result.

[Illinoise]

Just got off the phone with Jobs.

He said The Daily Download got cut because of effort, not decency. Steve said that Chris has just been "phoning it in" lately, not really "pushing" himself. Canned groans on the last couple shows. Small pebbles instead of huge logs. Dabbing instead of wiping. Bush league stuff.

Anyway, just a heads-up to you, Chris. If you want to get back into Apple's good graces, I suggest really blowing out an O-ring on this next one.

[djacobs003]

Disney/ABC maybe was upset because DTD was beating them in the top 100. Chris, I think it's time for a remote podcast. You need to do a Daily Download from Disneyland/World. If you can't beat 'em, poop on 'em.

As for what we can do, I would suggest letting listeners to your podcast know there are other places to find podcasts (podcast alley, podcast pickle) and let them know how to subscribe manually. They can still use iTunes as a podcatcher, but they don't have to rely on the iTunes store to find podcasts.

[camilian]

Steve said that Chris has just been "phoning it in" lately, not really "pushing" himself. Canned groans on the last couple shows. Small pebbles instead of huge logs.

****... should have never borrowed the SUE9000 automation system from Extra Super Action Show. Its' just too easy to let it do all the work for you... and it has metal boobs!

[camilian]

Disney/ABC maybe was upset because DTD was beating them in the top 100. Chris, I think it's time for a remote podcast. You need to do a Daily Download from Disneyland/World. If you can't beat 'em, poop on 'em.

I love it!



As for what we can do, I would suggest letting listeners to your podcast know there are other places to find podcasts (podcast alley, podcast pickle) and let them know how to subscribe manually. They can still use iTunes as a podcatcher, but they don't have to rely on the iTunes store to find podcasts.

Here is what really sucks, many of my listeners don't listen to podcasts. So having iTunes, no matter how screwed, was a nice way to get them more involved in the scene.

[camilian]

This was posted in another thread:

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/07/flap_over_adult_podc.html

[justSue]

Steve said that Chris has just been "phoning it in" lately, not really "pushing" himself. Canned groans on the last couple shows. Small pebbles instead of huge logs.

****... should have never borrowed the SUE9000 automation system from Extra Super Action Show. Its' just too easy to let it do all the work for you... and it has metal boobs!

Mike loaned the SUE9000 to you??? No wonder my *** is sore.... but clean and minty fresh! Love that washer you have, Chris.

Oh, and they're titanium alloy, thankyouverymuch.

[timn]

Curry is focused on the stupidity in London right now -- as would be expected if 45 people had just been killed where you live -- but when things start to get back to normal in a few days and he has time to think about other things, I'll be curious to see his take on this issue. Hopefully, no one close to him was hurt.

oooooo, I see I just earned my "Alley Regular" merit badge! And to think, a year ago I couldn't even spell podecast... :wink:

[camilian]

The Poopman returns!

Ok got an answer from Apple. Was told that I was kicked because "explicit tags" were not included in my feed. I replied "bullshit" I had explicit tags before even Dawn and Drew did. Heard nothing, was contacted by a writer for a MAJOR tech magazine. I told him the deal, said I was not going to make a big deal about it unless I didn't hear anything from Apple before next Wednesday.... and bam, I am back up tonight... same link and everything. I of course lost my footing in the top 100, but at least they put me back...

VIVALAPOOP!

[Keeme]

Congrats man! Hope it does not happen again... That was pretty messed up and made me pretty angry (your) removal and what a lame excuse as to why.

[Michael1]

Congrats Poopman!

I guess Apple probably discovered their error and only said what Emily Letila on the old Sat. Night Live used to say - "Never Mind" ;)

[waynealanharold]

Good, good news! :D

[docsnavely]

And the poop goes ploop once again! Congrats Chris!!

[Hittman]

Airferg presents:

The Daily Douche

The Evening Enema

As for what we can do, I would suggest letting listeners to your podcast know there are other places to find podcasts (podcast alley, podcast pickle) and let them know how to subscribe manually. They can still use iTunes as a podcatcher, but they don't have to rely on the iTunes store to find podcasts.

An absently excellent idea.

If everyone mentions alternative ways to find podcasts in their show, it will sneak around Apple's picking and choosing. You don't have to do it all the time, maybe once every three or four shows. And you don't need to bash Apple (unless you want to). Just something like "For those of you getting this through iTunes, I'd suggest you also check out Podcast Alley, Podcast Pickle, and {any other directory you like}, where you'll find more comprehensive listings that are easier to search, and more shows than are available on iTunes."

The Poopman returns!

Nice! Amazing what a little media attention can do, isn't it?

[jimk]

Hmm. I have explicit tags in my channel AND item areas. I can't get listed OR get a response from Apple.

[Hittman]

What do they consider Explicit? I occasionally, casually curse in my show, does that count? Sorry, there's just no other word with the same meaning as "Bullshit." Nor is there a replacement for "*****le," although I don't think I've used that one yet.

[jeffoest]

This is really good to hear. It makes me breathe a little better. Hopefully it was all just a big mistake.

[jeffoest]

What do they consider Explicit? I occasionally, casually curse in my show, does that count? Sorry, there's just no other word with the same meaning as "Bullshit." Nor is there a replacement for "*****le," although I don't think I've used that one yet.

It is kind of weird that there isn't ANYTHING published regarding how we self-police and use the explicit tag. Admittedly it's always going to be somewhat subjective, but a bit of guidance by Apple for their store would be helpful to us and them.

Also, the next generation of directories need to have adult filters in them. The explicit podcasters don't want to be censored obviously and they don't want their content available to children. Neither would the directories in the future. Adult filters of some kind are obviously a win-win for all.

A big mistake on Apple's part? Please spare me the agony. Apple kicked his show off because they got negative comments. If the media hadn't started to blow up their skirts, they wouldn't be moving an inch. This is the standard response any company has to bad press, fix it immediately and blame the problem on something else. This is nothing against the Daily Download, I've never listened to the show because it's not my thing, but I still think he's got the right to say what he wants. But let's stop giving Apple so much credit for "fixing their errors" this was a simple matter of PR.

[Big Mike]

YEEEEEE-HAWWWW!!!!

Now, get on that toilet and PUUUUSSSHHHHH!!!!

[jimk]

I propose the next challenge be pooping in a public place while podcasting it. A bowling alley maybe. Or a Chinese buffet at lunch rush. :)

[justSue]

You could always poop in the Apple store. You don't have to do it with the poop pants, either. I'm sure they have employee restrooms. I would just love the irony of it.

[jimk]

You could always poop in the Apple store. You don't have to do it with the poop pants, either. I'm sure they have employee restrooms. I would just love the irony of it.

Best, Idea. Ever. Dooo it! Doooo it. Hey. Do it. /newstarsky.

[dcolanduno]

You could always poop in the Apple store. You don't have to do it with the poop pants, either. I'm sure they have employee restrooms. I would just love the irony of it.

That would be the best...

[Big Mike]

Come to San Francisco, poop in the S.F. Apple Store. You can crash at our Extra Super Action House.

[camilian]

I propose the next challenge be pooping in a public place while podcasting it. A bowling alley maybe. Or a Chinese buffet at lunch rush. :)


I have done that a few times.... you should really check out the one where I eat funyons and offer them to people in the other stalls.


I love the Apple store idea.... now to get to SF.

[allthewhile]

I have an apple store less than a mile from my house here in Cincinnati. I would normally happily offer you the spare bedroom, but I'm not too sure my wife would appreciate your mission.

:P

[podcastshuffle]

Ok got an answer from Apple. Was told that I was kicked because "explicit tags" were not included in my feed.

How did you get in touch with Apple? Is there an email address or web form that you can share in case others have questions to ask Apple?

Jeff

[camilian]

After talking to tech support, the only address they would give me was this form - http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/windows/downloads.html

They do reply, but it it almost always a form mail. Just reply to that email as many times as it takes.

[kickasspodcast]

I am not suprised at all.

Sorry bout the raw deal..



jack