Finally listed on iTunes

[no1slistening]

Well, after a few days iTunes listed my podcast earlier today. When I searched for my show, my info page doesn't reflect my up-to-date rss feed, but seems like everything imported OK. When I subscribe to it though, it imports all the current info and shows. And I'm not listed in my category yet, but I'm sure all those bugs will be worked out. I'm just happy to be listed finally! So, who knows? Maybe they're not holding off on importing podcasts...maybe it's just a slow process.

[celerityfm]

Wow! Congratulations!!

I right clicked on your podcast in the subscriptions folder and chose "show description" and it shows that the feed they are using for you is http://www.no1slistening.com/listening.xml

Is that the one you submitted to them?

Mine still isn't showing up :P

[no1slistening]

Wow! Congratulations!!

I right clicked on your podcast in the subscriptions folder and chose "show description" and it shows that the feed they are using for you is http://www.no1slistening.com/listening.xml

Is that the one you submitted to them?

Mine still isn't showing up :P

Thanks, Celerityfm!

Yeah, I'm using one feed for everything. It's not so much of a hassle to keep using the iTunes tags. I just copy and paste the previous show and fill in the tags. But I'm just hoping my category tags are OK. I'm not sure if that's why I'm not in my category, or if they haven't the categories yet.

BTW, you casts look sweet. Love the chapters and the format. I just wish they made a PC process for chapters.

Are you listed yet?

[celerityfm]

Question for you sir, is the feed that Apple has for you, http://www.no1slistening.com/listening.xml - is it that the same url you've been using since May or is it one you've recently created? I'm trying to figure out if they listed you based off of your submission to them through the "publish a podcast" link in iTunes or if they had your feed from before and just now got around to publishing it :)

BTW, you casts look sweet. Love the chapters and the format. I just wish they made a PC process for chapters.

Are you listed yet?

Thanks! I spent alot of time getting those chapters and stuff together so I am glad it is appreciated :)

I'm sure a PC process will come out soon, iTunes is capable of creating AAC files so its just a matter of time.

And no, I'm not listed yet :( I submitted my 'cast on Tuesday at around noon eastern-- they say they've recieved it though (the directory says its already been submitted when I try to resubmit).

Guess I'll have to sit tight and see what happens!

[no1slistening]

Question for you sir, is the feed that Apple has for you, http://www.no1slistening.com/listening.xml - is it that the same url you've been using since May or is it one you've recently created? I'm trying to figure out if they listed you based off of your submission to them through the "publish a podcast" link in iTunes or if they had your feed from before and just now got around to publishing it :)

BTW, you casts look sweet. Love the chapters and the format. I just wish they made a PC process for chapters.

Are you listed yet?

Thanks! I spent alot of time getting those chapters and stuff together so I am glad it is appreciated :)

I'm sure a PC process will come out soon, iTunes is capable of creating AAC files so its just a matter of time.

And no, I'm not listed yet :( I submitted my 'cast on Tuesday at around noon eastern-- they say they've recieved it though (the directory says its already been submitted when I try to resubmit).

Guess I'll have to sit tight and see what happens!

This is my feed I've been using since Day 1. I went and added all the iTunes tags when 4.9 came out. There were problems with me submitting it, so I left all the iTunes tags out and submitted it. Then I resubmitted it with the iTunes tags in and it took (but I think I messed up the submission process the first time, so it didn't take). But it never told me that my feed had already been submitted, even the first time I entered it. So, to make a long story short (too late) I may have just been lucky and got listed. Who knows whats going on on Apple's end.

[celerityfm]

*snip*

I may have just been lucky and got listed. Who knows whats going on on Apple's end.

****. Thats what I thought. But thanks for the report anyways!

As far as knowing what's going on on Apple's end, check out this post on the Apple discussion forums: http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13@87.elSAah4uV7N.2@.68b34b86/6

We're reviewing all podcast submissions as quickly as possible. Due to the incredible response to our new podcasting feature, it may take one to two weeks for your podcast to be listed.

Thanks for your patience,


!!!

[no1slistening]

As far as knowing what's going on on Apple's end, check out this post on the Apple discussion forums: http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13@87.elSAah4uV7N.2@.68b34b86/6

We're reviewing all podcast submissions as quickly as possible. Due to the incredible response to our new podcasting feature, it may take one to two weeks for your podcast to be listed.

Thanks for your patience,


!!!

At least it came for the horses's mouth ... or the Apple's, I should say.

[VxJasonxV]

I'm curious as to how Apple went about this, and if submitting it is the ONLY way to get your feed listed.

Myself and one of the actual station's on-air talent went through and put in the iTunes tags when they released their specs, the first day 4.9 came out, we were already there!

I think Apple took lists from other popular sites (iPodder, audio.weblogs.com, etc.) as the intial base of podcasts.

[notyourusualbollocks]

At least they sent a message telling us what's going on......

MK

[cdoelle]

Does anyone know what to put in the rss feed for a movable type template to make it iTunes compliant?

I have taken each of my shows into iTunes itself and added the graphic, category, author etc... but done nothing with tags in the xml file.

[thefly]

Does anyone know what to put in the rss feed for a movable type template to make it iTunes compliant?

I have taken each of my shows into iTunes itself and added the graphic, category, author etc... but done nothing with tags in the xml file.

If you have the MT Enclosures plugin installed, I can send you a copy of my template with the iTunes stuff installed.

thinkanddrive (at) Gmail (dippitydot) com

[Hittman]

I'm curious as to how Apple went about this, and if submitting it is the ONLY way to get your feed listed.

Nope. Mine is in there, and I never submitted anything.

I think Apple took lists from other popular sites (iPodder, audio.weblogs.com, etc.) as the intial base of podcasts.

That seems likely, but then why were some of the most popular ones left out?

[celerityfm]

That seems likely, but then why were some of the most popular ones left out?

I've seen atleast 2 reports indicating that Apple just wasn't finished going through its list of podcasts to add to the directory-- Basically there are atleast two people I know of who'se podcasts were added to the directory a few days after the initial release of iTunes 4.9, but they, and I, strongly believe based on the evidence we have that it wasn't from submitting their podcasts through the "publish a podcast" link on iTunes.

There are alot of other indications showing that this was a rush job by Apple, one of the major ones being that they said last month to expect this in "2-3 months" and then suddenly releasing it a week after they were beaten to the punch on iTunes podcast integration (http://badfruit.com/). They probably decided to release it ASAP in order to stop that company from stealing their thunder. It seems that everyone, including Adam Curry, was caught by surprise on this one. Not that I'm complaining, I've been waiting for this for a long, long time. Plus I LOVE the new enhancements they've given podcasts! Despite the fact that its only AAC encoded ones... But its not a challenge to run 2 different streams.

The final piece of the puzzle is all the reports I've read saying that Apple is going through each podcast submitted by hand, checking to make sure that people aren't violating copyright, slowing the entire process even further. They are dreadfully afraid of people trying to turn podcasts, and therefore them, into the next Napster. PodSafe music on the other hand is AOK.

So there you have it, it appears that the reason popular podcasts weren't included is because they simply just haven't gotten to them on their "to do list" yet, had iTunes been released at a later date they probably would have been included from the start. They are being added even as we type :)

am i rite?

[dcolanduno]

So there you have it, it appears that the reason popular podcasts weren't included is because they simply just haven't gotten to them on their "to do list" yet, had iTunes been released at a later date they probably would have been included from the start. They are being added even as we type

am i rite?

I've heard a bunch of stories now, even from one person working at Apple. No matter the different story. They all center around the software being pushed out pre-maturely.

Mine is up, but not in the category it has as listed. That could be for a million reasons though, considering the different feedback I have heard.

I think they intended on having more rotating content in that indie feed banner on the front, and they got pushed out so fast, there were a lot of shows lined up that didn't make it on the first day. So, they rushed to just get it all in quickly in the end.

Not sure if it was worth it for Apple, I don't think that little bolt-on application would have trumped a built in iTunes solution. Millions of iTunes users would have never gone to get that plug-in.

I think it was pressure from places like Odeo and such that made them nervous. Or, the hype after Gnomedex maybe?

[jimk]

Not sure if it was worth it for Apple, I don't think that little bolt-on application would have trumped a built in iTunes solution. Millions of iTunes users would have never gone to get that plug-in.

I think it was pressure from places like Odeo and such that made them nervous. Or, the hype after Gnomedex maybe?

I have to agree there. BadApple stinks like rotten fruit and doesn't work. I doubt it was anything remotely like a factor in the decision to release early.

[celerityfm]

Not sure if it was worth it for Apple, I don't think that little bolt-on application would have trumped a built in iTunes solution. Millions of iTunes users would have never gone to get that plug-in.

I'm treating it like a beta at this point until they start running advertisements for "iTunes+Podcasts" or something, which I'd love to see.

I wonder what those will look like :P

[thefly]

I'm treating it like a beta at this point until they start running advertisements for "iTunes+Podcasts" or something, which I'd love to see.

I wonder what those will look like :P

It will be a mono-chromatic video of some poor shlub sitting alone in his basement in front of a Powerbook; can of cola in hand, USB microphone on his desk. :wink:

[docsnavely]

It will be a mono-chromatic video of some poor shlub sitting alone in his basement in front of a Powerbook; can of cola in hand, USB microphone on his desk. :wink:

OMG were you that dude on the ground peeking in last night?????

[celerityfm]

!!! I just made it into iTunes as well!

Here I am: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=73799229

Freaky! I guess I'm the first "definetly added through the publish a podcast link" podcast to get added that has reported here. Anyone else get added?

[Marilynfan]

I was listed from the get go (but in the wrong category). I updated my RSS feed with itunes tags right after the launch and finally today I see my image and description is up and I am showing up in other categories!

[celerityfm]

I was listed from the get go (but in the wrong category). I updated my RSS feed with itunes tags right after the launch and finally today I see my image and description is up and I am showing up in other categories!

Congrats! I see you in there too :) And hey what a cool idea for a podcast, going to have to give it a listen :)

Cheers

[cdoelle]

There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the podcasts they list... there are some really poorly produced stinkers (present company excluded) who are not even serving up their shows and there are people who submitted well after I did, yet I am nowhere to be found.

Am I on some blacklist? I don't recall any rants against Apple in my casts. Is it because they fear me taking over the podcast world? Maybe there is a vast podspiracy (I officially coin that term) to keep me off the airwaves.

AAARRGGGHHGH!! :lol:

[celerityfm]

Am I on some blacklist? I don't recall any rants against Apple in my casts. Is it because they fear me taking over the podcast world? Maybe there is a vast podspiracy (I officially coin that term) to keep me off the airwaves.

AAARRGGGHHGH!! :lol:

Doh! Huhm. Well the official word from apple was "1 to 2 weeks" and as far as I can tell I'm the only one actively reporting in having been added after the debut, so maybe its just a fluke or I was always in there and I didn't notice before?

Huh. It will come in time, unless you are playing full length copyrighted music tracks on your show or something :)

[cdoelle]

Huh. It will come in time, unless you are playing full length copyrighted music tracks on your show or something :)

Nope... but I do have to say that I added you to my listening list last night and will check out your show in a bit when I go do my training ride. (How can I NOT like it - its about dogs!!!)[/quote]

[jbisjim]

WOOT

Finally listed !!

[celerityfm]

Huh. It will come in time, unless you are playing full length copyrighted music tracks on your show or something :)

Nope... but I do have to say that I added you to my listening list last night and will check out your show in a bit when I go do my training ride. (How can I NOT like it - its about dogs!!!)[/quote]

Aww :) I like the shot of your dog in that pic-- I've also subscribed to your podcasts, going to check them out :)

And you too jbisjim. As a diver I'm definetly there. And congrats on getting listed, Cdoelle I'm sure you're listing will come soon! When did you submit your links?

[Dave]

Huh. It will come in time, unless you are playing full length copyrighted music tracks on your show or something :)

I'm wondering how many music podcasts might be rejected for that reason. I was already rejected from the iTunes Affiliate Program for "inappropriate content," even though all of the music I've played has been podsafe. Maybe they don't want indie music to succeed. Hrmm...

Oh, and Apple also inferred that my web site is ugly. Is the LibSyn template really that bad?

-Dave, hoping my paranoia isn't justified.

[celerityfm]

I'm wondering how many music podcasts might be rejected for that reason.

I wonder the same thing regarding copyrighted music. Though I haven't heard anything official from Apple one way or the other, just rumbling in forum posts.

I was already rejected from the iTunes Affiliate Program for "inappropriate content," even though all of the music I've played has been podsafe. Maybe they don't want indie music to succeed. Hrmm...

I dunno, they definetly talk up indie music and in their iTunes New Music Tuesday podcast they've done the same. Though who knows if they are self-checking themselves as to how much they talk about it/promote it as to not step on the RIAA's toe's and lose rights to sell all those iTunes..

As to the inappropriate content, maybe it was the quit about "I'm considering doing the same thing for iTunes, but I'm not so sure I want to promote DRM-wrapped music, even if it does support the artists. What do you guys think?" that they thought was inappropriate. Bah I say to them if thats the case.

Oh, and Apple also inferred that my web site is ugly. Is the LibSyn template really that bad?

-Dave, hoping my paranoia isn't justified.

Dude. Anything compared to Apple is ugly :P Don't sweat it man, I can't believe they would do something like that. The libsyn template is not ugly! Maybe they took offense that you used a "template"? Maybe they wanted your site to look more unique amongst the other libsyn sites?

In any case I'm definetly going to check out your podcast though :)

[celerityfm]

WOOT

Finally listed !!

Congrats!! May I ask as to when you submitted your podcast?

[notyourusualbollocks]

Oh, and Apple also inferred that my web site is ugly. Is the LibSyn template really that bad?

Did they REALLY say that? That's shocking! There are hundreds of people out there with bog standard libsyn templates so who cares? And when is a site supposed to be more important than what you actually produce in your podcast?

I'm very, very surprised.

MK

[amyloo]

I was beginning to wonder if my podcast ever would be listed, too, but it finally showed up just this afternoon.

I just realized that the lag time plays havoc for my game. If listeners rely on iTunes to catch their casts, they can't play.

My blog post about the problem: http://www.learnandteachonline.com/pmach/comments.php?id=174_0_1_0_M