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May 27th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Is it me or does anyone else notice that for the past few months, Adam Curry spends at least 5 minutes of his show bragging about his life. The most known member of the podcasting community is also the person who least represents it. Who amoungst you can charter your own jet when an airline leaves you stranded? Adam can and did. Who amoungst you stays at the Beverly Hills Hotel? No problem for Adam and Ron, want a cabana by the pool? That's where Adam is kickin it. When Dave Weiner comes out and tells the truth about what Adam did for podcasting, instead of being a man about it, he just attacks Dave personally and can't counter anything Dave said. So I have to ask, does this guy have any credibility with any of you when it's obvious he doesn't understand the podcasting community or the world any of you live in? He didn't develop the medium or the tools to expand it, so why bother with this guy? Maybe I'm missing something, does anyone see something that Adam is doing on the positive side. Don't count bring publicity to podcasting because if you read those interviews, they are as much about the man than the medium.

kevdo
May 27th, 2005, 12:56 AM
Did you hear how he said they'd be staying at cheap places recently and decided to splurge (incl. the hotel near the airport in Phoenix).

I grew up in Palo Alto and I can tell you that the Creekside Hotel he was staying at is no five star hotel. So, in this respect I do "buy" the argument.

At least he's open about what he's doing. Think of the CEOs that stay at five star hotels ALL the time! Cut Adam a break.

jimk
May 27th, 2005, 01:18 AM
he just attacks Dave personally and can't counter anything Dave said

That's just a blatant lie. The woman who gave the interview that sparked Dave's rant said that Adam gave Winer a ton of credit, it just didn't make the article. Dave is being...well...a winer. Without the H.

You know what's truly pathetic? There were people doing internet amateur radio in the mid 90's. Where was Winer then?

He did NOT invent this medium. He helped get the subculture going and helped develop the tools...but the credit he wants doesn't belong to him...or Curry.

The difference is, Curry isn't trying to TAKE it.

RoadUP
May 27th, 2005, 02:14 AM
I think AaronfromQC is onto something. I don't want to hear podcasts from anyone that isn't as dirt poor as the average podcaster! I only want to hear from people that are like me, that speak my language, that expose me to nothing new about the world.

Look, no offense meant man...just a friendly dig. But frankly, I don't really care who started podcasting. Those folks can fight amongst themselves. At this point that's a soap opera I don't want to be involved in.

I'm relatively new to this whole podcasting subculture, but I entered in time to catch the back and forth between Curry and Winer in their respective podcasts. And although it's by no means an exact analogy, ya know who they remind me of? Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Jobs was the face of Apple Computer, the media man, the visionary. Woz was the engineer, the tinkerer, the one that actually put the technology together. Although one now keeps a lower profile than the other, in The Big Picture of Apple they aren't mutually exclusive. Without Jobs, Woz would've had the tech but no avenue to market it. Without Woz, Jobs would have nothing to hype, nothing to market...he probably would've moved in another direction. Together, though, they made Apple Computer.

Seems like Curry and Winer have the same dynamic going on. With lots of media experience, Curry seems a natural choice as the "face of podcasting". He has the vision and the contacts to fulfill that vision. Winer seems to have been involved more in the actual coding, the tinkering, the elbow grease, and appears to have a legion of fellow tinkerers willing to help him build the roads on which we're going to be driving. Both helped make podcasting what it is today. Both bring something to the table. But the nature of the beast is, one will be quoted, be profiled, be associated with podcasting by Big Media more than the other. It's raw, it's unfortunate, but it's true.

I can't say I wouldn't feel a bit slighted if I was in Winer's shoes. Like Woz, though, I wonder... if Winer had the type of celebrity-style recognition he seems to be lamenting in Curry would he really enjoy it? I don't know the guy from Adam, but I have a feeling he probably wouldn't. He wouldn't be able to take those nice long walks I hear him taking. He wouldn't be able to tinker as much. He wouldn't be able to be....him.

Again, I don't know these guys....just a bit of conjecture. I wonder how many other duos there are in history like this?

Peace...

RoadUP
May 27th, 2005, 02:22 AM
BTW, I know there are many MANY more people involved in the history of podcasting than these two gentlemen. They are the two this thread seems to be about, though.

I hope everyone that works for a shot at podcasting fame gets and enjoys it...even if it's just for the proverbial 15 minutes.

dcolanduno
May 27th, 2005, 02:50 AM
I'm not claiming to have invented anything. But, at my last job, for a large government agency. We did a morning radio show, was about 10 mins each day. Since there were over 30,000 people in our group it was pushed out to desktops in, at the time, real media format. No, not streaming, a downloaded file to the desktops.

Over time, we setup an intranet page where people could subscribe to different shows, since there popped up about 10 other shows from other groups across the entity.

Totally what podcasting is, on a closed group scale. We thought we were inventive, but it wasn't really something we thought we invented at the time, just a way to use the recorded media in a logical fashion.

For almost 6 years, (until 2002), I did a downloadable MP3 radio show from my personal webpage. "Duno's Audio Log". There was no RSS feed system or subscription vehicle, and why would one be needed since it was just my one little show.

A long time before any of this, back in the early-mid 90's me and two other people had a web-business where people could come, and pay, and subscribe to audio content that would be pushed to them via a reminder email. The system zipped up all the audio programs they subscribed to, and then sent them an email with a link to download it. We weren't the only ones with stuff like this...

When I saw podcasting, I *seriously* thought it was just another cool use of RSS and the aggregators were neat since they just added in the downloading of files.

Not sure how any of this was 'invented', by Curry, Winer or any one in particular.

I can give credit to Winder and Curry for pushing out a cool application, 'iPodder' and giving a name to the little downloadable shows. But, not sure that is anything but saying they are 'application pioneers', even then... it was just built on RSS, which existed.

It's the 'fame' and 'buzz' around it right now more than the invention itself. It would be like crediting Bill Gates for inventing the computer. He just got it out into more peoples homes, with a particular 'application/os', he didn't invent personal computing, just was one of the people that got it into the limelight.

vox_monitor
May 27th, 2005, 06:08 AM
If he's irritating to you though, I'd recommend not giving him the serious privaledge of your attention. It's too valuable to waste on people who make you angry.

You could always listen to vox monitor instead, if you'd like. We'd really appreciate it and we definitely can't charter planes. (I'm not sure we can even fly coach.)

well, just a thought, anyways.

;-)



eric

robulon
May 27th, 2005, 07:39 AM
my only problems with adam are that a) his show is a bit boring, enough for me to unsubscribe, and b) he doesnt seem to actually have any 'input' with the community. granted he may glance at these forums occassionaly, but when was the last time you saw him post, or ever? it seems like he is podcasting in his own little world, and only has contact with his little clique of 'higher' authority podcasters. obviously this is just my opinion, and he's probably a nice guy when you get to know him, i just wish he was a bit more umm 'integrated' with the community. just my 2p


Rob

toiletduck
May 27th, 2005, 03:36 PM
AaronfromQC, what do you care what hotel he's staying in or if he's charttering a jet? Why are you so bitter that he's done well for himself. He's not bragging about his life, he's narrating his experiences. If you don't like it don't listen. Do you really expect that others are going to customize their podcasts to your satisfaction? Regarding your complaint that he's not involved enough in the community, what makes you think he owes you something?

Insomnia Radio
May 27th, 2005, 03:43 PM
Personal opinions aside, every new medium needs a celebrity to represent it. Curry is doing that. Whether or not we choose to listen to the Daily Source Code (whatever happened to users and developers partying together, btw...) is our choice.

Bottom line is that Adam Curry, as a person, is expanding the public mindshare of podcasting. That's good for everyone.

alissa
May 27th, 2005, 04:10 PM
i'm outta the loop.

i missed all this drama.

all i know is adam curry had really bad hair in the 80's

paul
Jun 1st, 2005, 10:07 AM
I really agreed with the original poster, and I rarely have the stomach to digest the DSC.

After hearing Rob's interview on Podcast411.com though, it really changed my mind about him. He's a genuine geek who was building modems back in the day--I was of the opinion up til then that he didn't really get it, but that interview changed my mind.

The disillusionment with his success is natural.

You don't have to like it, but hating the fact that many people like it is counter-productive at best, and you know...it's not helping anyone.

Curry being the ambassador to the world of podcasting is a hell of a lot better than Paris Hilton or some other jackass.

mental-escher
Jun 1st, 2005, 10:13 AM
Adam Curry has a podcast- go figure!

timn
Jun 1st, 2005, 10:53 AM
Goodness gracious, do you not have an unsubscribe button?

Personally, I don't find much value in the Dawn & Drew Show, but that's OK. I'm not forced to subscribe. No one is. That's the beauty of this system.

Dawn and Drew are free to publish exactly the kind of show they really want to publish and I'm free to completely ignore it if I choose. No compromises. No adjusting content to satisfy the mass market or appease the FCC. That's a REAL win-win. It just doesn't get any better than that!

dymind
Jun 1st, 2005, 11:15 AM
Oh yeah absolutely, I completely agree with timn and insomnia both. we have a voice to the media (which you know once it hits the media it is it's "watered down" version anyway in a quick digestable format that fades quickly, not necessarily a true representation) and we also have the choice to listen or not. if we don't want to listen we don't have to and that's the beauty of it. the freedom we have each one of us to actually guide this thing based on our own opinions. If you don't like something then everyone of us is more than able to do something about it because we all have voices.

JesusGeek
Jun 1st, 2005, 01:30 PM
I still can't believe that the biggest dork VJ I can remember from the MTV of my youth is loaded ($$). At least he didn't buy an NBA team that constantly loses in the early rounds of the playoffs (like another guy that made killing on the broadcast.com bubble). :)

The only problem I have with the DSC is the blowing smoke into the mic bit and dropping f-bombs in shows he knows his family is listening to, but that's just personal preference.

Other than that, I actually respect Curry a lot for what he's doing for podcasting. If I hadn't heard him on Leo's KFI show several months ago, I would probably still have no clue what this new medium is all about. Plus, he seems to try to use cheap "everyman" equipment for his soundseeing tours, which is cool. I'm sure he could buy all the Marantz solid state recorders he wants with super duper mics, but he gets by with an iriver and griffin lapel mic.

He's still a slightly arrogant dutch dork, but there are worse things to be. :wink:

Hittman
Jun 1st, 2005, 02:01 PM
He's still a slightly arrogant dutch dork, but there are worse things to be.

It's at least a little bit arrogant for anyone to do any kind of performing publicly. You have to have at least a little "Hey, Look at me attitude," in any kind of performance venue, or you’d never get over the fear most people have of getting on stage, publishing your writing or peaking into a mike.

JesusGeek
Jun 1st, 2005, 02:13 PM
He's still a slightly arrogant dutch dork, but there are worse things to be.

It's at least a little bit arrogant for anyone to do any kind of performing publicly. You have to have at least a little "Hey, Look at me attitude," in any kind of performance venue, or you’d never get over the fear most people have of getting on stage, publishing your writing or peaking into a mike.

true.

I try to take the approach that I admit that in the grand scheme of the universe, I'm a complete idiot and you can think so all you want (a lesson I learned listening to Les "Primus Sucks" Claypool CDs over and over in HS).

I guess I was thinking more about the "well, I've been famous since the 80's" comments he sometimes makes... I mean, where does the cutoff line for "famous" end and "somewhat well known" begin? :P

RenoDust
Jun 1st, 2005, 03:16 PM
I guess I was thinking more about the "well, I've been famous since the 80's" comments he sometimes makes... I mean, where does the cutoff line for "famous" end and "somewhat well known" begin? :P

I hate to break it to you, he's famous again.

I guess it's natural to take sides when it comes to the Adam/Dave slapfest. I guess I would side with Adam because he's not the negative Nancy that Dave has become. Dave's comments reek of jealousy and whining. Both helped evolve podcasting. Both deserve credit.

What makes you think, in a thousand years, that either would willingly jump into this den of lions to have their heads bitten off by the bitching "community" of podcasters.

I think Adam is smart to stay out of here.

thinkfuture
Jun 1st, 2005, 06:06 PM
Or as I like to call him "The New Robin Leach"

"Well, the Beverly Hills Hotel was a great place, but I will never stay there again. The internet access is just too slow" - while nubile young women light his cigarettes, massage him with oil and give him a pedicures while he's recording. Ya, life sucks for the podfather. The next time I hear "Podcasting IS Adam Curry" will be a long time out - I've unsubscribed from DSC, maybe permanently.

Keeme
Jun 1st, 2005, 07:39 PM
Say whatever you wish (good or bad) he IS the one in the limelight. He is helping to "cast" that light over the entire medium. Since he was on MTV a lot of people from that generation and newer are going to look at it more closely (because of his celebrity/credibility = CELEBABILITY).


LOL.. I am coining that phrase CELEBABILITY

WyethDigital
Jun 2nd, 2005, 12:42 AM
Say whatever you wish (good or bad) he IS the one in the limelight. He is helping to "cast" that light over the entire medium. Since he was on MTV a lot of people from that generation and newer are going to look at it more closely (because of his celebrity/credibility = CELEBABILITY).


LOL.. I am coining that phrase CELEBABILITY
Screw coining it! Trademark that baby and put together a website, or lecture series around it! Even if you never give a lecture, at least you've documented a use for it on the trademark application (which means someone will have to pay you to use it)!

:D

WyethDigital
Jun 2nd, 2005, 12:52 AM
Just to weigh in really quick before bed...

I see this argument going back and forth in different forms. This week it's complaining about Adam Curry and his celebrity status (or Podshow). Next week it will be about selling out the medium with commercials. The week after that, someone will bitchslap Dawn and Drew because they're in the Top Ten and (presumably) someone that "should" be isn't.

I have a challenge for you guys! Instead of bitching about Who and What are bad for Podcasting, try posting something that you think has strengthened the medium, and has been good for Podcasting! Seriously, why so negative all the time :?:


Eric

jgreenwald
Jun 2nd, 2005, 10:49 AM
Here's something positive:

If you haven't already caught up with this, check out Rex Hammock's series of articles entitled "How Apple will change everything about Podcasting."

He is up to article number three.

feed://www.rexblog.com/xml/rss.xml

Enjoy.

F7sound
Jun 2nd, 2005, 11:44 AM
<snip>....I try to take the approach that I admit that in the grand scheme of the universe, I'm a complete idiot....<snip> :P

Hey, in the grand scheme of the universe WE ARE ALL complete idiots! I like your attitude.


Michael Oster
F7 Sound and Vision
http://www.F7sound.com
the Difficult Listening Channel - http://www.F7sound.com/podcasts.htm
my blog - http://michaeloster.blogspot.com

donna
Jun 5th, 2005, 10:48 AM
...
The only problem I have with the DSC is the blowing smoke into the mic bit ....

He's still a slightly arrogant dutch dork, but there are worse things to be.

Curry blows smoke into more places than just his mic. :| the reason i removed DSC from my fav podcast list.

and, btw, Curry is the personification of the arrogant american.... he's only a Dutch-wannabe :roll:

Jun 5th, 2005, 12:11 PM
I'm actually glad this post hasn't died. I made a formal apology to Adam on my show because after listening to him on Podcast 411, I figured out his problem is that when he's not held down to topic, he goes off on major "I'm loaded, look at me" tangents. But Rob kept him on topic and he actually impressed me with some of the things he wants to do for podcasting. I say some because I disagree with some of his ideas. But he does want to make podcasts easier to understand for the lay person and that is important to all of us, and he's trying to make the RIAA see that we aren't all pirates with a digital parrot on our shoulder. So I stand corrected, sorta.

Check out my podcasting point on show #10 for the whole scoop, bigshowradio.blogspot.com

Patrick
Jun 5th, 2005, 01:17 PM
Sounds like a ploy to get more listeners, Aaron.

:lol:

dcolanduno
Jun 5th, 2005, 02:11 PM
Sounds like a ploy to get more listeners, Aaron.

Kind of like all of our sigs! ;)

Patrick
Jun 5th, 2005, 02:14 PM
Shhhh...

Jun 5th, 2005, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence. Whatever.

kevdo
Jun 5th, 2005, 05:53 PM
I made a formal apology to Adam on my show because after listening to him on Podcast 411, I figured out his problem is that when he's not held down to topic, he goes off on major "I'm loaded, look at me" tangents. But Rob kept him on topic and he actually impressed me with some of the things he wants to do for podcasting. I say some because I disagree with some of his ideas. But he does want to make podcasts easier to understand for the lay person and that is important to all of us, and he's trying to make the RIAA see that we aren't all pirates with a digital parrot on our shoulder. So I stand corrected, sorta.

Check out my podcasting point on show #10 for the whole scoop, bigshowradio.blogspot.com

That was hardly an apology. Firstly, you were technically inaccurate when you noted that he brags about flying first class when he goes out of his way to say he never flies first or even business class, except when he's upgraded. He flies a lot, but so do a lot of people in business. Secondly, he also doesn't brag about staying in first class hotels. He noted that he stayed at the Beverly Hills Hotel but only because in the past few days they had been staying at some really cheap places. So what?

I'll grant you that he does have a different lifestyle than most of us (I don't own an airplane) but I'd argue strongly that he doesn't throw that in our face. In fact, I feel there are plenty of opportunities to mention his fame on his show and he rarely does that.

Jun 5th, 2005, 06:58 PM
I agree to disagree, don't want to have a flame war.

radioclash
Jun 8th, 2005, 09:19 PM
Only 5 minutes? :roll:

I used to think that AC was a nice easy-goong bloke...but the SENSEO mentions started to SENSEO bug me as the SENSEO kept happening SENSEO allover the SENSEO place until PODSHOW came along and PODSHOW took over and PODSHOW was all PODSHOW time so PODSHOW Daily Source Code PODSHOW seemed like one PODSHOW big PODSHOW advert.

See what I mean?

Did I mention the coffee?

If he's kept on track - ie developers and users partying together - I'd still be listening. And if you want the lowdown on Dave vs Adam listne to the Morning Coffee Notes from May 26th (?) where Dave Winer says that he had a 50/50 agreement to go into business with Adam and he reneged and avoided the issue.

Nice....podfather is a very apt term. What next a horses head in your blog?

kickasspodcast
Jun 8th, 2005, 11:13 PM
Is it me or does anyone else notice that for the past few months, Adam Curry spends at least 5 minutes of his show bragging about his life. The most known member of the podcasting community is also the person who least represents it. Who amoungst you can charter your own jet when an airline leaves you stranded? Adam can and did. Who amoungst you stays at the Beverly Hills Hotel? No problem for Adam and Ron, want a cabana by the pool? That's where Adam is kickin it. When Dave Weiner comes out and tells the truth about what Adam did for podcasting, instead of being a man about it, he just attacks Dave personally and can't counter anything Dave said. So I have to ask, does this guy have any credibility with any of you when it's obvious he doesn't understand the podcasting community or the world any of you live in? He didn't develop the medium or the tools to expand it, so why bother with this guy? Maybe I'm missing something, does anyone see something that Adam is doing on the positive side. Don't count bring publicity to podcasting because if you read those interviews, they are as much about the man than the medium.


Don't hate the man, hate the system.

radioclash
Jun 9th, 2005, 10:05 AM
Don't hate the man, hate the system.

the man is a product of the system, and a self-confessed fan of it...

kickasspodcast
Jun 9th, 2005, 11:52 AM
...I was referring to the system of projection where people focus their negativity onto people in the limelight.

It is easy to pick someone apart, it is far harder to accept their contributions. I appreciate and accept the contributions of Mr. Curry. But I don't like everything about him- neither do I like everything about my Fiance' or Mother.

Would be glad to run your promo clash! Send it here kickasspodcast@gmail.com
ours is at http://kickasspodcast.com/kickasspromo.mp3


Shameless, I know.

bramley
Jun 9th, 2005, 12:18 PM
What next a horses head in your blog?

:lol:

radioclash
Jun 9th, 2005, 12:37 PM
...I was referring to the system of projection where people focus their negativity onto people in the limelight.

It is easy to pick someone apart, it is far harder to accept their contributions. I appreciate and accept the contributions of Mr. Curry. But I don't like everything about him- neither do I like everything about my Fiance' or Mother.

I accept that Adam Curry has done a lot to promote podcasting, and was part of the team of people who invented it - he didn't come up with the term (which is most of the reason it became big as it had a catchy name - Dannie Gregoire and a journalist at the Guardian did that) or the technical side (Dave Winer) - he did the implementation and became the 'face' of podcasting.

But he didn't invent it alone - that's not being negative, it's the truth...and like with Edison and Logie-baird, being there at the start does not mean you get dues for the rest of your life other than recognition as being an innovator - it doesn't make your magically 'protected' from criticism. As soon as he did the strategy cast 2.0 and podshow I think then his personal gain rom podcasting meant that he stopped innovating - fair enough, there's enough innovators that never saw a penny from their inventions; but don't tell me he's still 'the podfather' and still controlling where podcasting is going - he's now the 'podshowfather' and has gone back to his warm comfortable old media.


Would be glad to run your promo clash! Send it here kickasspodcast@gmail.com
ours is at http://kickasspodcast.com/kickasspromo.mp3
Shameless, I know.

not shameless - it's how podcasting started I seem to remember (ooh I feel old, from last year -aeons ago! :D ) - happy for you or anyone to play my promo http://www.mutantpop.net/go.php?url=54 - cool promo by the way, happy to play it....

Tim

Keeme
Jun 20th, 2005, 07:58 PM
Nice....podfather is a very apt term. What next a horses head in your blog?


LMAO!

[looks at blog... breathes a sigh of relief]

Keeme
Jun 20th, 2005, 07:59 PM
OH! I want to prostitute the KeemeCast so many millions of listeners can come listen and be confused.

pwfenton
Jun 20th, 2005, 08:18 PM
Or as I like to call him "The New Robin Leach"

"Well, the Beverly Hills Hotel was a great place, but I will never stay there again. The internet access is just too slow" - while nubile young women light his cigarettes, massage him with oil and give him a pedicures while he's recording. Ya, life sucks for the podfather. The next time I hear "Podcasting IS Adam Curry" will be a long time out - I've unsubscribed from DSC, maybe permanently.

Well that must be why you sent him a promo for your show... which he played.

Frank J.
Jun 20th, 2005, 09:08 PM
I had a problem with blogfather (Glenn Reynolds of instapundit.com) not giving me enough attention, so I spread a rumor that he makes smoothies by putting puppies in blenders. For years now, he's been known as the puppy blender in the blogosphere. Didn't really achieve anything, but it got me more attention.

So all you need is a vicious lie about the podfather...

richpav
Jun 20th, 2005, 10:27 PM
One thing I've realized is that if you're going to podcast, you'll need to learn how to let criticism roll off your back. No matter what you do, there will be people who love it and people who hate it.

Basically, I think the people who complain do so becuase they have a need to complain and you're a convenient outlet; it's not particularly because you've actually done something really terrible.

dcolanduno
Jun 21st, 2005, 12:19 AM
Well that must be why you sent him a promo for your show... which he played.

Hey, since I sent in a promo and it wasn't played... does that mean I can complain?!

Actually, my addition to this thread is that folks should listen to the Podcast411 interview with Adam.

I say that because you might go back to realizing that everyone is 'just a person' behind the podcasting microphone. It is hard when you are at the top of the heap, because then everyone is peeking at you.

I remember those days when Dawn and Drew were constantly #1 and people kept complaining about the fact they didn't like the show. It is a product of publicity. I am sure you would dislike other podcasts far more than Curry's if you listened to lots of them...

The only reason you aren't bashing those, usually, is because they don't get the attention from others. Which is fair, I guess, but always keep in mind, the person doing the show is just a person, and the fame of DSC has caused it to change, and evolve. And in such, it leaves less and less room for more and more people and podcasters!

I got off on a tangent here, but in the end... take a listen to the 411 interview, and not just with Curry, listen to lots of them, and you will REALLY start to realize how similar we all are.

Luke15_7
Jun 21st, 2005, 12:42 PM
One thing I've realized is that if you're going to podcast, you'll need to learn how to let criticism roll off your back. No matter what you do, there will be people who love it and people who hate it.

I agree. It's like world peace: you simply can't make everyone happy all of the time. People will take offense because you're successful, yet in their next breath they're inviting friends to come over to discuss some new business model so that they can be succesful.

Basically, I think the people who complain do so becuase they have a need to complain and you're a convenient outlet; it's not particularly because you've actually done something really terrible.

The culture seems to me to also have changed, and encourages complaining. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for freedom of speech (I'll save comments for another time), but the time of "I may not like what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." has passed. Now it's more like "I don't like what you're saying, so I'll cry the loudest about you saying it, or maybe get legislation passed so you can't".

If Adam minded his money wisely from the MTV days and since then, then he deserves to be successful. Not brag about it, but he should be able to enjoy it.

[/rant]

Luke

pwfenton
Jun 21st, 2005, 01:38 PM
Well that must be why you sent him a promo for your show... which he played.

Hey, since I sent in a promo and it wasn't played... does that mean I can complain?!



Actually, I put your promo into a Sirius show this morning (not sure when it will play this week), and I thought it was excellent.

dcolanduno
Jun 21st, 2005, 02:02 PM
Actually, I put your promo into a Sirius show this morning (not sure when it will play this week), and I thought it was excellent.

Wow! Thanks!

Now I have to go purchase a Sirius Radio... AND my right to complain has been removed! ;)

P.W. do you know if the Internet Streaming version of Siruis allows us to pickup the channel PodShow is on?

It doesn't on the 'free 30-day' preview, that is why I ask.

pwfenton
Jun 21st, 2005, 03:54 PM
Actually, I put your promo into a Sirius show this morning (not sure when it will play this week), and I thought it was excellent.

Wow! Thanks!

Now I have to go purchase a Sirius Radio... AND my right to complain has been removed! ;)

P.W. do you know if the Internet Streaming version of Siruis allows us to pickup the channel PodShow is on?

It doesn't on the 'free 30-day' preview, that is why I ask.

I have heard that it doesn't, but I don't know for sure. I may be basing that on reports of others trying the 30 day free trial.

On another note... I just went back and figured it out... your promo gets played during the second hour on Thursday. Maybe you can find a subscriber to listen in with.

P-Dub

sheridan
Jun 21st, 2005, 04:18 PM
i'm outta the loop.

i missed all this drama.

all i know is adam curry had really bad hair in the 80's

If it makes you feel any better, you're more in the loop than I am.

I didn't even know that! :oops:

Of course, that is probably because my parents didn't let me watch MTV until I was 13 so it was the 90's before I ever saw anything on MTV.

I actually googled for his picture a couple of months ago when I started listening to DSC and I was like, "Hmmm, nope. Don't recognize him."

soccershow
Jun 22nd, 2005, 01:17 PM
Personally, I like Adam. I listen to his show. It's good fun for me.

That said, what's with all this hating? If you don't like something, don't do it. But don't sit there and complain about Adam Curry when you and I both know that Adam has gotten where he's gotten because people like him. Nobody, and I mean nobody, forces you to listen to the DSC. If you don't like Adam, don't waste your time on him. Promote someone you like without caring about AC :)

sheridan
Jun 22nd, 2005, 02:16 PM
The first podcast I ran across was the Rock N Roll Geek Show. Nothing against Michael Butler, but his show did not help me to understand what podcasting was (at least the few episodes I heard). I started googling about and looking around for something that would actually make the concept of podcasting clear to me.

THAT is what Adam Curry has done for this community. When I heard the Daily Source Code I finally got it. I understood the current state of the podcasting community and I began to get an idea of the possibilities of podcasting. I started to get excited, and I started looking for other podcasts with both a clear goal and a new fervor.

Now, the Daily Source Code is not the most entertaining podcast I have heard. It is not even the best produced podcast. But, and this is a huge but, it is hands down the best podcast I have heard yet that gives you a clear mental picture of what podcasting means both from the audience perspective and the podcaster perspective.

I have considered pulling him out of my rotation a couple of times, since I have now become a podcaster myself and have found other resources to follow trends in podcasting, but I haven't yet. Even though there are other resources, Adam is not only at the forefront of any podcasting news he is also a human voice which is very good at putting that news into perspective. It is, of course, his perspective and I don't always agree with everything he says, but it is a clear and concise picture.

So, Adam, if you are reading this. Thank you for explaining podcasting to me and thank you for all of the time and energy you put into this. We may not see eye to eye on everything but I respect your work.

kickasspodcast
Jun 22nd, 2005, 03:05 PM
Why can't people just leave Curry alone? Who's Perfect? Listen to our show- its clear we're not perfect. I haven't met anyone who was.
My only complaint is he mentions Senseo too much. Senseo brews horribly bitter weak coffee. Senseo makes undrinkably light coffee that is horribly bitter. Maybe one day other companies will make stronger pods for the Senseo, but every knoweledgable review I have ever read of the Senseo gives it a big thumbs down.

But seriously. its not that big of an issue. Its just coffee.

Check out this terrificly honest review of the Senseo: This is 1 quote from the review for you guys to check If you enjoy the taste of richer brewed coffees, such as those made with french presses, espresso machines or vac-pots, you can stop reading now. If you only drink freshly roasted coffee, you can also stop reading now. You have already evolved further on your coffee journey, there is nothing you will gain from owning a Senseo.
http://www.ineedcoffee.com/04/senseo/


jack

Patrick
Jun 22nd, 2005, 03:14 PM
Who's Perfect? I haven't met anyone who was.

Have you heard our show? :lol:

dcolanduno
Jun 22nd, 2005, 04:34 PM
On another note... I just went back and figured it out... your promo gets played during the second hour on Thursday. Maybe you can find a subscriber to listen in with.

GREAT!

Well, I might just go get the Add-On for my Pioneer Headunit in my car, it's only like 70 bucks... It can keep me company on my road trip tomorrow.

What time is the Podshow on again?

D.

jimk
Jun 22nd, 2005, 08:43 PM
THAT is what Adam Curry has done for this community. When I heard the Daily Source Code I finally got it. I understood the current state of the podcasting community and I began to get an idea of the possibilities of podcasting. I started to get excited, and I started looking for other podcasts with both a clear goal and a new fervor.

Now, the Daily Source Code is not the most entertaining podcast I have heard. It is not even the best produced podcast. But, and this is a huge but, it is hands down the best podcast I have heard yet that gives you a clear mental picture of what podcasting means both from the audience perspective and the podcaster perspective.

I have considered pulling him out of my rotation a couple of times, since I have now become a podcaster myself and have found other resources to follow trends in podcasting, but I haven't yet. Even though there are other resources, Adam is not only at the forefront of any podcasting news he is also a human voice which is very good at putting that news into perspective. It is, of course, his perspective and I don't always agree with everything he says, but it is a clear and concise picture.

I composed like three replys to this, but it all boiled down to finding ways to releat one sentence:

MAN I wish I had written that, it's EXACTLY what is in my head re: Curry.

pwfenton
Jun 23rd, 2005, 06:15 AM
On another note... I just went back and figured it out... your promo gets played during the second hour on Thursday. Maybe you can find a subscriber to listen in with.

GREAT!

Well, I might just go get the Add-On for my Pioneer Headunit in my car, it's only like 70 bucks... It can keep me company on my road trip tomorrow.

What time is the Podshow on again?

D.
Glad you asked... because I figured wrong before... Your promo plays during the first hour tonight 6/23 The show is on 6Pm to 10PM Eastern