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DVDTalk
Apr 29th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Though I'd split this list out from the thread on DSC clogging servers...

For those of you who Don't want to download a 100MB file or spend 2 hrs getting this info.

Here's the announced line up for Podshow (no real shockers - excuse any spelling snafus)

Dawn and Drew
Rock N' Roll Geek
Yeast 2 (Richard Bleustein from Yeast Radio)
Madge Weinstein
The Skinny on Sports
The Gilmore Gang

Also... Some talk about PodsafeMusic Cast
CC Chapman - Accident Hash
Chris Rockwell - Daily Download

And... Podcast Alley is going to be part of the PODSHOW universe.

What's NOT there (some notable podcasts which are glaringly not part of the line up)

The Bitterest Pill
Croncast
Coverville
Reel Reviews
Anythig from IT Conversations
Evil Genius Chronicles

ferg
Apr 29th, 2005, 04:46 PM
Interesting...I wonder how that's going to work in terms of frequency. I mean - 6 podcasts?

Thanks for saving me from having to listen to the whole thing.

Noebie
Apr 29th, 2005, 05:04 PM
here's what i fail to understand...what does this mean to the listeners? we can get all these podcasts now

all due respect, but one of the things that's cool about podcasting is that it's direct from producer to listener...i guess i should try to listen to the whole thing at some point, but so far i just don't get it

casthole
Apr 30th, 2005, 01:22 AM
That Accident Hash BS!! has anyone heard this show? I mean this guy needs a lesson in broadcasting before he can take this any further...you get a bunch of "reason their not signed" bands stuffed between drips of deep cerebral generalizations like "this band tawtolly rocks", "I really dig this song", "this band tawtolly rocks" and the dreaded but oh so LAME, "chill" and if I here one more "but its all good"....eeeegh, can anyone say turd in the talent pool?

allthewhile
Apr 30th, 2005, 09:00 AM
And... Podcast Alley is going to be part of the PODSHOW universe.

What exactly does this mean?

jawbone
Apr 30th, 2005, 09:26 AM
I, for one, am glad that Brian from Coverville is not a part of Podshow. Brian has done a remarkable job on his show and he has demonstrated that you can do a great podcast AND get lots of listeners without selling your soul to AC.

When it comes to the guy who is going to be pushing podcast forward to the masses, I'm still in Brian's corner. :D

jeffoest
Apr 30th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Guess I need to find some time to listen to the Adam Curry latest podcast to understand more about this. But what's the take from people that have heard it? Is Podshow going to be a significant thing? Should I worry that my podcast is not on the list, for example? Or try to get in?

I guess at this point I'm not caring too much either way, but I probably need to get myself edumacated lol

Marius
Apr 30th, 2005, 12:13 PM
This podshow thing could be really bad news. I've been doing some speculation and talking to someone (who will remain nameless) who was approached by Adam Curry about being in the podshow lineup and rejected it. While the person couldn't confirm or deny what i was saying because he respects Curry's confidence, some ideas and predictions about the podshow thing came out that are really potentially frightening.

First, lets look at what we know Adam is doing
-comes up with a new name for a new type of podcast, calling them podshows
-creates a new podcast player for his podshows, odeo, that will be used instead of ipodder
-plans to monetize podcasts by adding adds to them or by requiring a subscription payment, or by sponsorship
-creates new tool for creating podcasts called podshows
-creates a new music pocaster group that is in opposition to AMP (notice how he talked about a podsafe music organization but avoided referring to amp?)

At first glance what Curry is doing seems relatively harmless. So what that he's creating a new podcast aggregator, or podcast creation tools? There are already great ones out there. Why would people need Curry's stuff. And how could he use a subscription fee for popular podcasts? people will buy one copy and then pirate it like crazy. How could he insert adds? Anyone could use a cue file and a wav editor to cut out the adds out.

And then it hit me. How Adam could add advertising to podcasts that is unremovable, make paid subscription podcasts that are unpirateable, and make his new software relevant, while still making it possible it download the casts to a portable player. Only one model I know of can fit these and that is a Napster (the new napster) model. Unlimited downloading of audio files, and the ability to transfer them to a portable player, yet the files can't be transferred to another user, pirated or burned (i'm talking about the napster audio files that a person gets as part of the unlimited songs plan, not songs that are individually bought).

This explains so much of what Adam is doing. Podsows would have to be of a different, proprietary format, hence the new name. They would only be listenable in odeo, and since Curry has the best podcasts, everyone will have to get and use odeo. If people want to make podshows, they will be forced to use curry's tools. This also explains why Adams podshows need a new podcasting client instead of ipodder. Since podshows would be in a proprietary format, you wouldn't be able to remove adds or transfer them to other people, so the subscription model would work.

This is specultion at this point, but if this is Curry's plan, I understand now how Curry plans to make money. It would be bad for podcasting, but i don't think anyone could compete with him.

kris
Apr 30th, 2005, 02:10 PM
. . . but i don't think anyone could compete with him.

We'll see.

I think your speculation is very astute and on the money from what was laid out from the "strategy cast" and your inside information. But I think one of the reasons for doing what Adam and Ron did this publicly is to ask for competition. Competition will push podcasting farther and faster than anything, look at people now competing for votes.

Wait to til more and more producers and shows start cropping up with talent. Show production quality is only going to improve (and has been) as time goes on and people will learn from one another all the other tricks that make shows sound good.

There is no way that Podshows can shut down podcasters. Podcasting is an amalgam of many technologies and skills and if Adam and Ron want to call them Podshows it is only fitting since they will own the name. There is no harm in trying. I think it is great. Look what Adam has been able to do for podcasting; the press, the vendors, tools and a loose community. We'd be hard pressed to attain this level of public awareness without him or Dave.

As podcasters we are the same as the day this began, on equal ground, we can still buy mics, software and server space to distribute our shows internationally. Yes most of us don't have millionaires with connections backing us but there are plenty of other connections to be made that will compensate those who are looking for it.

There has been a lot of silence on all of these subjects since yesterday as we are all still processing the implications of Podshow making their various strategies and roster known. A bit of it I think has been fear (which I think was intended in the many "don't be left behind" remarks) and another bit of wonderment as they discussed the connections they were making and meetings they were attending, Sony and Universal to mention. But ask anyone who has been podcasting for a while with a quality show to tell you who has been talking to them or who they are working with and jaws would drop.

The money for now is in services and software with advertising lagging behind as podcasters have yet to produce the numbers and models that advertisers feel comfortable with. Podshow seems to prepared to build from the services and software base and then bring the advertisers in but in that time there will be other who figure out how to make it work.

My take is that being a first mover is very important, especially in this space and the mistakes that will be made by Podshow will benefit everyone else who comes along after. We're all learning from one another, a community of individuals with the same interest sharing (even if for a price).

Will-Casel
Apr 30th, 2005, 02:31 PM
And... Podcast Alley is going to be part of the PODSHOW universe.

What exactly does this mean?

Yeah, Adam didn't go into that great of detail on this. He talked about how they flew Chris up to New York to discuss a few things like the voting process, but didn't go in depth on how PodcastAlley fits into PodShow. I think that it will become the new directory, since Adam's version is pretty ugly.

I found the "Strategy Cast" quite interesting and motivating myself. I like how they talked about building community among the different genres. I like how "Dawn and Drew" and the other casters will now be producers of other podcasts in their genres and how the producers will bring in and create new shows.

I like how there will be a free version of CastBlaster and a subscription version with "extras" like sound effects, music library, etc.

They also mentioned that these intial 6 or 7 crews are not the end and that they will bring in more from different genres. Who knows maybe I'll be approached to produce the poetry section of PodShows! ....yeah right.

Just my 2cents.

Will-Casel

Edwin
Apr 30th, 2005, 05:34 PM
-creates a new podcast player for his podshows, odeo, that will be used instead of ipodder

I thought odeo.com was a competitor of podshow. Are they working together now ??

Brian
Apr 30th, 2005, 07:24 PM
First off, Len, thank you for your really nice comments above. I wasn't approached by Adam, and invited to the "party", nor was I really expecting to be. Adam and I have sent a couple emails back and forth, and he (very generously) offered some bandwidth for my show back in November when it was creaking under the weight of its own downloads. But he's got some history with the folks he mentioned, so I wasn't surprised by the list.

I am certainly intrigued by this concept of "PodSafe music." You'll notice that his StrategyCast mentioned that he had met with Sony Music, and was going to be meeting with Time Warner. Neither of these are indie labels. So, specuiation that these meetings were to make RIAA-licensed music podsafe for BoKu-umbrella shows would be my first guess. When he's talking about Podsafe music, I don't think he's talking about the stuff that AMP plays.

But that's just my thought. I could be wrong.

amyloo
Apr 30th, 2005, 09:44 PM
I thought odeo.com was a competitor of podshow. Are they working together now ??

No, I don't think so.

allthewhile
Apr 30th, 2005, 10:50 PM
odeo is a venture by jason williams, the guy who started blogger.com and who also worked at google for a while. I do believe that they're completely unrelated.

Marius
May 1st, 2005, 01:18 AM
oh you're right. Odeo is by a different group. I tink that curry is working on a new player, but it isn't called odeo. Sorry about that.

Catholic Insider
May 1st, 2005, 02:28 AM
Although I understand the strategic value of a special Podshow group of sponsored producers to attract a lot of new people to the phenomenon of Podcasting, I am a bit puzzled by some of the choices in that list.

If you want to attract a large mainstream audience to podcasting, I wonder if some of the shows that are now in the list are able to achieve this, because of their 'mature' content.

Imagine you have a family. You've heard about this Podshow initiative through the mediahype, and you decide to subscribe to the recommended podcasts of the producers in the current line-up, to listen to them with your family during the long trip to Disneyland next weekend... Can you see the problem?

I'm not saying that there's no large audience for some of these podcasts because of their contents - the stats show otherwise - but I am just wondering if the current selection has the broad appeal that podshow hopes for.

How do you think this current line up will be perceived by the masses? Especially in a country like the US where 'Nipplegate' dominated the news for weeks?

I'm just wondering...

Edwin
May 1st, 2005, 03:10 AM
@ marius: No problem, I read a little more about Odeo now and they seem to be on the right track.

@ Roderick: switching to dutch for a second :wink: Ik wil je even laten weten dat ik je show erg graag beluister. Ben niet gelovig, maar heb intresse in de wereld waarin ik leef en daar maakt het geloof natuurlijk onderdeel van uit. Heerlijk om te horen hoe iemand uit Amersfoort zo'n breed publiek kan bereiken. Keep it up!

joelthecomic
May 1st, 2005, 10:29 AM
I'm guessing that Curry's idea is that once he has the software to create and listen to shows, the various directory websites that allow people to find shows, and deals in place to allow access to things like music and other royalty-free content, that the entire thing would be bought by a big internet company. Think Google, Yahoo, AOL, Apple, MS, the usual supects. It wouldn't be any different then something like Blogger or Picasa on Google, right now.

I don't believe there's a good way to make money providing podcast content or software at the moment, but selling assets off to a media company who thinks podcasting is the next big thing would pay off handsomely.

This is how Mark Cuban made his billion $$. He sold broadcast.com, which sucked, becuse no one had broadband, to Yahoo. Of course, that was during the 90s boom, but something similiar could happen today. Things like Podcast Alley, as we know it, could be extinct fairly soon.

podx
May 1st, 2005, 11:02 AM
Although I understand the strategic value of a special Podshow group of sponsored producers to attract a lot of new people to the phenomenon of Podcasting, I am a bit puzzled by some of the choices in that list.

If you want to attract a large mainstream audience to podcasting, I wonder if some of the shows that are now in the list are able to achieve this, because of their 'mature' content.

Imagine you have a family. You've heard about this Podshow initiative through the mediahype, and you decide to subscribe to the recommended podcasts of the producers in the current line-up, to listen to them with your family during the long trip to Disneyland next weekend... Can you see the problem?

I'm not saying that there's no large audience for some of these podcasts because of their contents - the stats show otherwise - but I am just wondering if the current selection has the broad appeal that podshow hopes for.

How do you think this current line up will be perceived by the masses? Especially in a country like the US where 'Nipplegate' dominated the news for weeks?

I'm just wondering...

The masses who are internet viewers in general like adult content. Nipplegate was typical right wing crazy people doing thier media hype/morals act on the airwaves they control. ( imho)

sweek
May 1st, 2005, 02:07 PM
The masses who are internet viewers in general like adult content. Nipplegate was typical right wing crazy people doing thier media hype/morals act on the airwaves they control. ( imho)
I have to agree... the audience will not be that general. We're talking people that are on the Internet a lot and probably have mp3 players. Looking at top keywords at search engines like Google shows that adult content is usually what people want.

I haven't actually listened to Podshow yet... I thought it would also be about giving everyone the chance to plug a show? Is that what they mean by Castblaster, because apparently only a few shows can actually be featured on podshow.com.

podx
May 1st, 2005, 02:41 PM
Obviously no final judgements about podshow and castblaster can be made at this early stage, but parts of the discussion on the strategy cast rubbed me the wrong way. Whatever happens, I have a feeling there will always be some podcasters without advertising putting out good content with more listeners than just family and friends. Others will choose a light advertising approach. Selling out isnt the end of the world for podcasting but the thought of drm podcasts on shows that were once free is depressing. However, there is talent now and more will come. A percentage of them will probably have good shows, decent audience, and wont sell out to drm or advertising like we get on radio. I think there are enough different types of people in different financial situations with different goals that there will always be some good content without a lot of commercials. Fast forwarding is ok, but there's nothing like hearing a interesting or entertaining podcast without commercials in the middle.

amyloo
May 1st, 2005, 03:19 PM
The masses who are internet viewers in general like adult content.
top keywords at search engines like Google shows that adult content is usually what people want.


I don't think you can make blanket statements like that about internet use. While no one denies that porn is a huge part of the internet and certainly a big part of the internet economy, it doesn't logically follow that it's "usually what people want" so it ought to be on the menu for all.

Taking the morality of out it for a moment, and just looking at the logic, it's like saying that because business-to-business sales of things like packaging supplies or metal alloys has a large share of the overall e-commerce market, it's usually what the general public wants, so it naturally should be on the general public menu.

Then stepping back to morality, I gotta say that I listen to Dawn and Drew, but never when my kids are around (I'm a desktop podcast consumer). The things they say embarass me in a way that watching a quick nude scene in an R-rated movie never has if it happens that I'm watching with my 16- and 20-year-old sons. I subscribed to Yeast Radio to see what it was about, but after listening to parts of two of them, I was too embarrassed to listen to it even by myself!

But I'm sure the Podshow folks don't wish to force adult content on kids. They're not pushers. Surely there will be ratings. It would only make sense not to do something that would turn off some of the potential audience, since audience building is part of the scheme, right?

podx
May 1st, 2005, 03:40 PM
I opened a link this morning and thought I must have mistakenly gone to porncastalley.com! How many underage children saw I don't know. Luckily I'm 18... but I wouldn't want to be the one to explain that to a child or employer!.. not after the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction. Could you imagine the shame! :twisted:

Scorpio Moon
May 1st, 2005, 04:48 PM
Fr. Roderick wrote:

but I am just wondering if the current selection has the broad appeal that podshow hopes for.

It absolutely does not have broad appeal. I don't know what Adam Curry was thinking. It obvious he made his choices based on long-standing relationships he had with these podcasters and that's about it.

If I remember correctly, him and Ron Bloom were complaining that the only people listening to podcasts were other podcasters. Yet he chooses these shows that are only well-known in the podcasting realm. The list would have been more palpable if he would have added even just a few more podcasts to add diversity.

podx wrote:

The masses who are internet viewers in general like adult content.

But I don't think any marketer gives a crap about what viewers like. The most important thing is money. And the money comes from advertisers. Not all advertisers are going to be comfortable attaching themselves to many of the adult-oriented shows in the Podshow "family".

sweek
May 1st, 2005, 04:49 PM
The masses who are internet viewers in general like adult content.
top keywords at search engines like Google shows that adult content is usually what people want.


I don't think you can make blanket statements like that about internet use. While no one denies that porn is a huge part of the internet and certainly a big part of the internet economy, it doesn't logically follow that it's "usually what people want" so it ought to be on the menu for all.

Taking the morality of out it for a moment, and just looking at the logic, it's like saying that because business-to-business sales of things like packaging supplies or metal alloys has a large share of the overall e-commerce market, it's usually what the general public wants, so it naturally should be on the general public menu.

Then stepping back to morality, I gotta say that I listen to Dawn and Drew, but never when my kids are around (I'm a desktop podcast consumer). The things they say embarass me in a way that watching a quick nude scene in an R-rated movie never has if it happens that I'm watching with my 16- and 20-year-old sons. I subscribed to Yeast Radio to see what it was about, but after listening to parts of two of them, I was too embarrassed to listen to it even by myself!

But I'm sure the Podshow folks don't wish to force adult content on kids. They're not pushers. Surely there will be ratings. It would only make sense not to do something that would turn off some of the potential audience, since audience building is part of the scheme, right?Well isn't it pretty logical to give the users what they want in case you want to grow bigger and make money out of it?
It all depends on your intentions, I guess.

From a moralistic point of view, I'm sure there will be some kind of warning on those shows like their is on movies. D&D have such a warning on their site as well, and Yeast well, it's pretty clear what it's like once you go to Madge's homepage. I don't have problems with their content personally, but I can see people having that in case it's really presented to you in one package, if that's what Podshow will be doing.

But if money is what they are after than I do think that going for these subjects is a good idea.

podx
May 1st, 2005, 05:10 PM
Scorpio Moon wrote:

"But I don't think any marketer gives a crap about what viewers like. The most important thing is money. And the money comes from advertisers. Not all advertisers are going to be comfortable attaching themselves to many of the adult-oriented shows in the Podshow "family"



Think howard stern and drm napster to go chris rock etc.

Look how much Howard is getting paid by sirius! Yup, the most important thing IS money, and money can come from subscribers too

amyloo
May 1st, 2005, 05:17 PM
But I don't think any marketer gives a crap about what viewers like. The most important thing is money.

Have to disagree with you there. They care very much what consumers like. Ratings and preferences are how ad buys are arrived at.

But radio, and I'd think even more so with podcasting, is all about target marketing -- and not just age demos but psychographic demos, and the fit of product to sponsorship. If a buyer was smart, and some of them are, she would take into account the profile of the typical listeners of the raunchcasts, because they might possibly have a larger share of trailer trash than you might like for both audience buying power and for image.

podx
May 1st, 2005, 05:21 PM
I wonder who advertised on the Jerry Springer show? What restpectable companies would ever advertise on that crude & immoral horror of a tv show? Was it on cable or regular tv? I can't imagine that was on regular tv...

Scorpio Moon
May 1st, 2005, 06:42 PM
I wonder who advertised on the Jerry Springer show?

I don't know the exact ins and outs of TV advertising, but the impression I always got was that advertisers paid for ads depending on the time of day they will be shown. Only in special circumstances like the Oscars or the Superbowl do advertisers pay to be seen on specific shows.

But radio, and I'd think even more so with podcasting, is all about target marketing -- and not just age demos but psychographic demos,

That is absolutely true. The other thing is, radio had the advantage of finding local advertisers and playing ads that only people in the area would be interested in. Advertisers with an international appeal, obviously, won't be as plentiful.

On Web radio stations that I have been listening to for years (such as wolffm.com), most of the ads are for .com Web sites. And while it makes sense to go after those advertisers, how many of the .coms have the money in their budget to afford to play in Adam Curry's sandbox?

Craig
May 1st, 2005, 08:32 PM
how many of the .coms have the money in their budget to afford to play in Adam Curry's sandbox?
Adam's sandbox isn't going to be expensive to play in until he significantly builds up his listener base, which is way he is emphasizing the need to draw more listeners to podcasting as the first step in Podshow's strategy. Advertisers aren't going to pay until they get a verified listener count, and if you take a count of the number of unique listeners for all the shows in the Podshow roundup right now, including DSC, I doubt you'd hit 80,000. Pull out DSC and I doubt you'd hit 40,000. You can't charge much for those kinds of numbers.

Craig

casthole
May 1st, 2005, 08:52 PM
It absolutely does not have broad appeal. I don't know what Adam Curry was thinking. It obvious he made his choices based on long-standing relationships he had with these podcasters and that's about it.

If I remember correctly, him and Ron Bloom were complaining that the only people listening to podcasts were other podcasters. Yet he chooses these shows that are only well-known in the podcasting realm.

I totally agree, I mean if you listen to some of those shows as far as content goes....like Hash for instance, the dude has like ZERO musical knowledge...certainly not enough to go mainstream or to a wider audience. There's a certain level of expertise a wider audience or for that matter ADVERTI$ER$ are going to demand when it comes down to them coming out of pocket in whatever way Team Curry has planned for revenue generation. I guess time will tell if what I'm hearing from one scenario about revenue generation being linked to listernship numbers.

podx
May 1st, 2005, 08:59 PM
"An MTV Host Moves to Radio, Giving Voice to Audible Blogs
By KEN BELSON

Published: May 2, 2005



Hiroko Masuike for The New York Times
Adam Curry outside Sirius headquarters in Midtown Manhattan. His weekday "PodShow" will showcase homemade audio files.




it was an offer even the podfather could not refuse: the chance to be host of a radio program devoted solely to podcasts, or homemade radio shows formatted for digital audio players.

Adam Curry, a former MTV host who developed software that lets people automatically receive these programs on Apple's iPod and other players, will produce and be host of a four-hour program every weekday starting May 13 on Sirius Satellite Radio.
"
I guess dawn and drew will be on sat radio?

jawbone
May 1st, 2005, 10:21 PM
It sounds more like DSC or a version of it will be moving to Sirius.

allthewhile
May 1st, 2005, 10:32 PM
This could mean SERIOUS exposure for podcasting. Get it? SIRIUS. AAH AHA HAHA I KILL ME!!

Craig
May 1st, 2005, 10:47 PM
This could mean SERIOUS exposure for podcasting. Get it? SIRIUS. AAH AHA HAHA I KILL ME!!
You need to get out more.

Craig

JakeGrim
May 1st, 2005, 11:20 PM
it was an offer even the podfather could not refuse: the chance to be host of a radio program devoted solely to podcasts, or homemade radio shows formatted for digital audio players.

Adam Curry, a former MTV host who developed software that lets people automatically receive these programs on Apple's iPod and other players, will produce and be host of a four-hour program every weekday starting May 13 on Sirius Satellite Radio.
"


You have to be kidding me. This is like the scene in a bad made for TV movie when you realize that the small little nuggets of info being dropped are foreshadowing things to come. Curry was talking up Sirius a couple of months ago, and bam he has his own four-hour show every day? This does not bode well.

I'm saying the sky is falling, but I have a bad feeling about this. We all know the jockeying that goes on now to be mentioned on the DSC, and I think this is only going to make it worse. Is the content for the new show going to be solely Podshow produced, or will there be promotion of "outside" shows? I'm not being petty, but if and when the time comes that I try and make a go of doing this professionally, I want quasi-level playing field. I know that won't be possible, but a boy can dream can't he?

I guess I can't blame him for striking while the iron is hot. What's going to happen in six months, when this new medium will either burn itself out, like most internet fads do, or it will become one recognized forms of media that everyone keeps hopeing it will be.

Wow, my paranoia really kicks when I'm up late.

PaulCasting
May 1st, 2005, 11:56 PM
Anyone remember those Divx Discs that you used to be able to buy at Circuit City?

Anyone remember BETA video tapes?

Why did they fail? Because they were TOO proprietary. Even AOL is struggling to keep up with all the people opting for the straight Internet.

Whenever people do something to try to isolate or "own" a medium, they tend to suffocate themselves.

I see the same thing with what I've read about Podshows. It's a shame cause Adam really is owed a lot by the podcasting communiy for the legitimacy he gave to the "industry".

The best way to expand the Podcasting audience is to integrate RSS readers into current music managers (such as iTunes or Windows Media Player). When this is done and people can simply click on a link to add a podcast to your player, then more and more will listen.

Doing what Adam is doing isn't about increasing the size of the audience, it's about increasing the size of his wallet. It's not going to work.

Paul

Craig
May 2nd, 2005, 12:09 AM
Adam just landed a 4-hour daily show made up of podcasts on Sirius. That will increase the size of the audience.

Craig

Scorpio Moon
May 2nd, 2005, 12:29 AM
What's going to happen in six months, when this new medium will either burn itself out, like most internet fads do, or it will become one recognized forms of media that everyone keeps hopeing it will be.

Everyone knows what a blog is. Everyone feels like they are missing out unless they have one. Blogs are so plentiful that they are easy to find and easy to create. But yet even blogs aren't, as of yet, so mainstream that the masses are choosing them over the media they have been used to for so long.

So then why would anyone think podcasting is going to catch on like wildfire? Who is going to sit and listen to a "four-hour program every weekday" about podcasting?

Final thought:

Here on the Web, Adam Curry may be known as the "podfather" and revered by many of those in the podcasting community. But to the "average Joe", he's an ex-MTV VJ who hasn't been heard from for ten years. Some might consider him a "has-been". Why would people sit and listen to a "has-been" talk about something that isn't am integral part of their lives?

charleyw
May 2nd, 2005, 12:45 AM
Final thought:

Here on the Web, Adam Curry may be known as the "podfather" and revered by many of those in the podcasting community. But to the "average Joe", he's an ex-MTV VJ who hasn't been heard from for ten years. Some might consider him a "has-been". Why would people sit and listen to a "has-been" talk about something that isn't am integral part of their lives?

He also made a fortune in the Internet industry in the 90's, and owned the URL mtv.com before they sued him to get it back. I just can't see him doing this whole thing for the money. He doesn't need it. However, I do agree that his choices for what he calls the "vanguard" were not great ones. No one from Godcast, which collectively has a large audience, and everyone that he picked is from North America, which doesn't necessarily draw in an international audience. So, yeah, I think Israelisms should have been asked. :wink:

Charley

allthewhile
May 2nd, 2005, 12:46 AM
Five bucks says there won't be a single religious themed cast.

Craig
May 2nd, 2005, 12:53 AM
Five bucks says there won't be a single religious themed cast.
I don't know, I'd say the first Rastafarian podcast has a shot.

Craig

dcolanduno
May 2nd, 2005, 08:55 PM
Unfortunately...

Unless the whole channel of podcasts was just some random playing of all the podcasts on podcast alley... totally random with Adam doing like a show of promos and 'news' now and then...

It's JUST RADIO again!

I mean, having a lineup of shows?

I already have that on every one of my talk XM Satellite stations, why would I care that they also are podcasts?

D.

spaz
May 3rd, 2005, 01:29 AM
so...none of us want to play with adam anymore? Podshow...the end of the Podfather....

sorry...too much coffee...

ferg
May 3rd, 2005, 01:40 AM
According to the latest DSC he's going to be announcing in the next few days how you can submit your casts for consideration on the Sirius show. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if he "featured" the podshow 7 or whatever, but he's at least making it sound like he's going to mix it up pretty well. He also said that he'll continue to play promos, etc for other podcasts.

I don't know about everyone else, but I'm going to submit. I would love have an episode or two on the radio, even if it's satellite radio. I just think it would be cool. I don't think the results are going to be too staggering. If sirius has 150 channels and 2 million listeners, how many people are going to be listening to your cast if it's played once? The real value would be in getting a regular slot...but, like I said, I'm not really concerned...I just think it would be cool.

Dave
May 4th, 2005, 12:59 PM
The best way to expand the Podcasting audience is to integrate RSS readers into current music managers (such as iTunes or Windows Media Player). When this is done and people can simply click on a link to add a podcast to your player, then more and more will listen.

Isn't the number of iTunes users in the millions? If Steve Jobs ever decided to add podcast subscription features to iTunes, all but a few freeware iPodders would disappear.

Of course, if you're like me and think that Apple in general and iPods in particular are horribly overrated, you'll probably use something else, anyway...

-David, Archos MP3 player owner.

paul
May 4th, 2005, 01:08 PM
I agree with the over-rated. Ugh.

owyn
May 4th, 2005, 01:51 PM
Five bucks says there won't be a single religious themed cast.
I don't know, I'd say the first Rastafarian podcast has a shot.
I had to check (http://www.podcastalley.com/search.php?searchterm=rasta).

No luck. Yet.