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WyethDigital
Apr 3rd, 2005, 08:55 PM
Granted, my expertise is purely based on my own listening habits and no one elses. I know there are other listeners out there on the board. I'd be really interested in hearing what your turn ons and turn offs are, and how you evaluate Podcasts.

Here are the top 5 ways I find and evaluate the Podcasts I listen to:

1) Content/Subject matter. Whether it's a plug in a Podcast, or a description in a database, this is my most important consideration.

2) Recommendations (plugs). I will usually try a Podcast if it's from a Podcast I respect (has consistent quality or topical material). This doesn't mean I always stick with them, but I do try it out for a couple of episodes. Cases in point (not dissing on them), Adam Curry plugged the Poopcast and Yeast Radio -- I felt the concepts were better than the implementation, but I can understand why other's find them fun. I don't disregard Adam Curry's plugs because I didn't like a couple of Podcasts he was promoting.

3) LENGTH! This was almost number two, but this is ultimately one of the ways I judge a Podcast, and has very little to do with finding them, so it ends up as number three. I like Podcasts that go for about a half hour to 45 minutes at the max. You guys are cranking out good ****, so I like shorter Podcasts which allow me to sample a bunch of the work out there!

4) Consistency. I realize that Podcasting is a time consuming hobby/labor of love. If it wasn't, I'd be doing it myself. So I don't mind if you miss some Podcasts. People need time off for their own lives. That said, if a Podcast says they're going to be producing new shows once or twice a week and then disappear for a month or more at a time, then I probably won't continue subscribing to your feed. The Maccast is good, because Adam will sometimes put up a one or two minute minicast to tell his listeners if he's not going to be doing an episiode.

5) Quality. If a Podcast lacks basic audio quality, and has lots of hiss (possibly from sloppy encoding), or fumbling around (Adam Curry can be guilty of this quite often, and when he is, I don't listen), I tend to lose interest. The sad fact is, I'm a professional who works in video (and thus with audio), so when I hear something that can be prevented, it's like fingernails on a chalkboard. I wish I could just shut that little quirk of mine off, but I can't. Sorry!

Well, I'm sure this will generate some discussion. Again, just because I might have used a Podcast that you put together or like as an example of something I don't like, it's not an insult to your character, your talent, or your taste. Look at it more as a divergence of opinion.


Peace,

Eric

cc_chapman
Apr 3rd, 2005, 09:37 PM
Content is king no matter WHAT the medium you are talking about. It's what it all boils down to in my book.

WyethDigital
Apr 3rd, 2005, 09:51 PM
Content is king no matter WHAT the medium you are talking about. It's what it all boils down to in my book.

Very true! That's pretty much what I mean by "Subject Matter." Maybe I'll fix my post and poll to reflect that!

Thanks!!!

Eric

WyethDigital
Apr 3rd, 2005, 09:53 PM
Nuts! I couldn't edit my poll!

BSquared
Apr 3rd, 2005, 10:34 PM
Clearly you put a lot more thought into it than I do WyethDigital.

From this listener's perspective it's all about content - does it make me laugh or make me think or make me want to dance.

Don't care much about recommendations or plugs - I have tuned in to other podcasts based on recommendations from a show I already listened to - but that doesn't always work out because I have rather eclectic tastes (although thanks to Dan Klass I found viva podcast which was definitely a good deal).

Don't much care about length - I'll listen to Mr Nice Guy (at 5 minutes) or G'day World (usually around an hour) - I'll schedule them depending on what I'm doing at the time.

I figure I'm getting most of this for free - so really I can't gripe too much about consistency. And I DO like surprises so I set my iPodder to go fetch and see what the day has brought me - just like Christmas 8)

The only other thing that has made me turn off a podcast was quality - I basically couldn't hear it so stopped subscribing - but it's gotta be pretty bad for me to notice - a little hiss ain't gonna bother me (again I AM getting this for free so I'm not gonna be too fussy)

jeffoest
Apr 3rd, 2005, 11:02 PM
Yup- clearly content is the most important. That content can vary based on mood - sometimes I want tech talk, sometimes comedy, sometimes politics, etc... I usually end up downloading more podcasts than I actually get around to listening to.

I do tend to favor podcasts that deliver anywhere from 30 minutes to 1 hour each week (whether it's in one shot or split among a few 10 minutes segments). Don't know why really - I guess it's the idea that when I find podcasts I like, it's nice to be able think that I can 'keep up' with them and I know I can't keep up with a podcast that goes much more than that per week (we only have so much time, eh?)....

Not too concerned about audio quality - though I do appreciate any produced 'bits' (because I know first-hand the time and creativity required) especially if funny or insightful. Clearly an annoying signal-to-noise ratio can ruin the listening experience - but most that I've sampled (but not all!) are just fine. I should add though - I've been digitally recording for over four years and while I can live with a bit of noise, I absolutely can't stand digital clipping - it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. I'll turn off a podcast pretty fast if it's clipping.

Plugs/Recommendations - doesn't really factor into my listening equation....

yaz
Apr 3rd, 2005, 11:53 PM
dick and fart jokes...

is there a right answer to this question?

F7sound
Apr 4th, 2005, 04:12 PM
dick and fart jokes...

is there a right answer to this question?


You forgot "naked chicks"


Michael Oster
F7 Sound and Vision
http://www.F7sound.com
my podcasts - http://www.F7sound.com/podcasts.htm
my blog - http://michaeloster.blogspot.com

gavin
Apr 4th, 2005, 04:23 PM
I think we're all on the same page with this one! I don't care if someone is using the built-in mic on their PowerBook or a Shure KSM44 connected to the finest pre-amp in the world. It just has to be fun to listen to!

I agree with Jeff on being able to stay current with podcasts. But, luckily for me, I have a LONG commute every day, so that gives me time to listen to my favorite shows.

WyethDigital
Apr 4th, 2005, 05:29 PM
The only other thing that has made me turn off a podcast was quality - I basically couldn't hear it so stopped subscribing - but it's gotta be pretty bad for me to notice - a little hiss ain't gonna bother me (again I AM getting this for free so I'm not gonna be too fussy)

Sure thing BSquared. I fully realize that these things are free, and I appreciate that. I'm not trying to start a whining thread. I've seen a few of the things in my poll dealt with individually, but never really all at one time, or from a listener perspective. Thought I'd throw it against the wall and see what sticks!

Eric

yaz
Apr 5th, 2005, 12:17 AM
i don't understand why people would want to hear about naked chicks the fun would be seeing naked chicks...