Video Feeds Follow Podcasting

[theFerf]

Podcasting in my opinion is still not fully evolved and already there thinking one step ahead....video podcasting. Im not sure i am as accepting of this as i am of podcasting in its traditional form, but for some people it may be the way. I know Engadget has been playing with it a bit. Read the full article from http://www.wired.com at this link right
here (http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,65925,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4).

[hud]

Apple is backing a new "advanced video compression" scheme (H.264/AVC) based on mpeg 4 Part 10 standard. "H.264/AVC very efficient, providing extremely high quality in smaller files, but H.264/AVC is also scalable, producing video for everything from 3G for mobile phones to High Definition (HD)."

Steve Jobs speaking at a recent expo boo-hooed the idea of people watching video on an iPod device. He went further to bash the newest handheld video media devices. Personally, I think it was a "smoke and mirrors" statement. With Apple's latest connection with cellphone giant, Motorola .. great things are bound to happen.

It is only a matter of time before video podcasting catches fire. The hardware development tools are here .. the aggregator software can not be far behind. As stated elsewhere in these forums .. it is all about the content, but if the means, the delivery medium or the marketing buzzword contains the word "POD" ... then I say bring on the "podclips"

Apple Quicktime Compression (http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/h264.html)
Apple Special Event .. Jobs on Video Player at 12:10 into clip (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/specialevent04/)

[ej]

Podcasting in my opinion is still not fully evolved and already there thinking one step ahead....video podcasting. Im not sure i am as accepting of this as i am of podcasting in its traditional form, but for some people it may be the way. I know Engadget has been playing with it a bit. Read the full article from http://www.wired.com at this link right
here (http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,65925,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_4).

You hit the nail on the head here. Apple needs to come up with an LCD screen that can be plugged into the iPod kind of like a Gameboy or one of those little pocket PC's.

I've recorded some video feeds but they are 80+MB in MOV format. They look great but they end up being huge files!! I zipped one down to 33MB but then again who wants to get a Zipped podcast? The best thing that the podcast has going for it is the hands free ease of use factor..

If a developer could make a piece of software that downlods the video file, unzips it and sends it to the desired destination on the hard disk automatically, I'd be the first to sign up!! I'm toying with the idea of putting another link in my show notes to the video that was recorded for the show. Any suggestions would be appreciated..

Thanks again for the great forum!!

Peace,
EJ

[theFerf]

I don't know if a name has been introduced yet for podcasting with video, but I am really grooving on the name "podclip". Makes sense if you think about it...video clips in a podcast.

Just my 2 cents, for what it is worth.

[hud]

apple recently released their ipod photo in 20gB/40gB models. the sweetest thing is the video out port. apple wants you to store your photos on it and display them on any external video device you choose.

the same would go for podclips .. stored on the ipod and seen on either the 2X2 inch ipod screen or your big screen at home via ext. in/out ports. The ipod becomes a storage device like your computer .. very portable, very cool. Third parties like Griffin Technology will provide the external 5-8 inch LCDs if you want that option.

the most amazing thing about video clips to me ... people want ... they demand .. larger screen TVs .. regular CRT, LCD, plasma, front/rear projection. BIG, BIG, BIG. Yet how many of these same people watch video clips on a 3 inch X 3 inch window on their computer screen. Again if a podclip is short, concise and contain quality (or funny) content ... the screen size doesn't matter.

[Craig]

There's no reason why the term "podcasting" couldn't encompass any kind of media...there's nothing about it that indicates audio. Personally I'd like to see a different term replace it that doesn't imply iPods only...even though I'm an iPod user I think that public perception of the name is still limiting experimentation with and adoption of the technology.

When I explain podcasting to people they either get really excited or I hear "sounds cool but I don't have an iPod". The first response is from people with iPods. This shouldn't be happening...the entire user community needs to embrace or at least undersatnd podcasting in order for podcasting to truly take off.

Craig

[theFerf]

I agree with you for the most part, Craig, but what you need to remember is that not only did Adam Curry help make podcasting popular, but so did the iPod. If a device like the iPod had not been invented and popularized to the extent in which it has been...this phenomenon known as podcasting would never have started.

It took the iPod and its 20/40/60GB of space to drive people to find a way to fill it.

[theFerf]

Oh man...I am in love.

Get your podclip from this news reporter and her daily video podcast.
Rocket Boom (http://www.rocketboom.com)

I guess I need to find a way to get a iPod Photo so I can start downloading this one. This podclip features a female reporting the news in video format... each show is included in the rss feed with enclosures.

Check it out, very fun, very cool.

[Craig]

It took the iPod and its 20/40/60GB of space to drive people to find a way to fill it.I agree that it took the popularity of the iPod and its high profile to push podcasting to the front of the media as quickly as it did. But bear in mind two very important things:

1. There are far more people sitting at their desks with plenty of available hard drive space and time to listen than there are people with iPods.

2. Podcasts aren't designed to be archived...for the most part you listen, you delete...you don't need a huge amount of space to listen to a handful of favorite podcats. Flash-based MP3 players work too and they're far more abundant than iPods as well.

So again, my point is that while iPods may have been the necessary vehicle to bring podcasting to the media forefront, I think there are much larger vehicles that are being ignored or underplayed that could allow it to truly take off into the mainstream if handled properly. And this is precisely the time that this needs to be done in order to take maximum advantage of the current momentum.

Think of it as a two-stage rocket. Stage one gets it to the edge of the atmosphere. Stage two takes it into space. We're at the edge of the atmosphere. If we don't ignite the second stage now then gravity pulls us back down to earth.

Craig

[theFerf]

I agree with you completely and know that the content is what will be the driving force in the future, not the delivery or the player.

With that said, I might as well let you know that I do not own an iPod and I am one of those people you are talking about who have "plenty of available hard drive space" to listen to podcasts at home and a "Flash-based MP3 player" to listen to them on the road.

Im still hoping that someone will find this site extremely useful and want to send me money for an iPod, but Im not getting my hopes up :)


PS > Excellent analogy.

[Tim]

After doing some reading on this site between yesterday and today, I get the sense that you are all using Apple computers and iPods or whatever.

Sorry, but I'm a Windows / PC person.

With that taken into account, there is already something containing audio AND video out there - it's called a "webshow". It's been out for about 7 years now.

I got started watching a few different webshows in the past, like around 1999, but they have all gone out of production in the last couple years.

So I put my computer skills and research to use, and became the creator and producer of my own comedy / opinion webshow on April 1, 2003.

It's called "Online Video", and can be seen at www.loudmouthtim.com .

There are 96 episodes to date, episode 97 will appear in the next day or 2. Most episodes are 4-7 minutes in length.

Everything on the site is FREE to download and there are NO pop up ads or spyware or viruses on the site. I do all the work on the site myself.

The shows play in Windows Media Player 9 (or the newer WMP 10), and are all in a .wmv format.

Apple advertisements are always talking about how great their computers are and how they can do anything, but if they can't play a .wmv file, go to microsoft.com and download the "windows media player for macintosh" codec or OSX or whatever your Apple computer uses.

Then you'll get to see what (to my knowledge) is the longest running webshow on the internet that is currently in production!

Tim

[Lance]

After doing some reading on this site between yesterday and today, I get the sense that you are all using Apple computers and iPods or whatever.

No. I'm a Windows person. I listen/watch podcasts on my PC and on a Pocket PC, using my podcast receiver app PPR (www.primetimepodcast.com).

With that taken into account, there is already something containing audio AND video out there - it's called a "webshow". It's been out for about 7 years now.

Of course...but the difference in this and podcasting is the RSS2.0 feed that is involed, making it possible for users to PULL your feed whenever they like, from one aggregator, rather than having to visit your website and download each one manually.